Openoffice.org EOL announcement

2009-12-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi I like the FAQ they have in the EOL announcement. Fedora could learn from this. http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announcemsgNo=407 Rahul -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/22/2009 09:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: FWIW - I agree with both jesse and jarod. Official builds are from main branch. Anything built anywhere else will never be official. How about scratch builds? Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/23/2009 09:04 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 08:50:11PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/22/2009 09:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: FWIW - I agree with both jesse and jarod. Official builds are from main branch. Anything built anywhere else will never be official. How about

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/24/2009 12:52 AM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: It grants no patent rights to Distributors, aside from those already granted to Novell in the previous covenant. What it practically means is that once you distribute, you stop being considered an End User by Microsoft, and are no longer

Re: (huge) Ruby packaging changes

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/24/2009 05:49 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: Care to explain the term environment-modules for me please? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/EnvironmentModules Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary NVIDIA driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/23/2009 07:54 PM, Dan Burkland wrote: I have used the proprietary driver for its superb handling of 3D acceleration over nouveau. However, with the release of 2.6.33 near, I may give Nouveau as it now supports KMS (It may have in the past I'm not quite sure). Dan

Re: boot screen font size?

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/24/2009 06:22 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:17:00 -0800 Kam Leo wrote: Is there any way to convince it to pick a much much larger font size during boot? Have you tried tacking on vga=0x317 or other setting to grub? As I expected, KMS knows better than me what to

Vala programs and compiling from source

2009-12-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, I recently submitting Deja-dup, a backup program written in Vala for review at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540761 Vala is described in more detail at http://live.gnome.org/Vala. Deja-dup like many Vala programs include both the Vala source code and the C source code to avoid

List migration and fedora-india list

2009-12-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
To infrastructure team, As noted in https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg00011.html, fedora-india list is moving from redhat.com to lists.fedoraproject.org and the new location will be indian-us...@lists.fp.o Although this is good for consistency, when I created

List migration and fedora-india list

2009-12-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
To infrastructure team, As noted in https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg00011.html, fedora-india list is moving from redhat.com to lists.fedoraproject.org and the new location will be indian-us...@lists.fp.o Although this is good for consistency, when I created

Re: List migration and fedora-india list

2009-12-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/22/2009 02:51 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Although this is good for consistency, when I created this list, it was never intended to be a end user focussed list and the focus is on discussions between contributors. Unlike, other user

Re: List migration and fedora-india list

2009-12-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/22/2009 03:57 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: We can do what? Oops. somehow quoted an entirely irrelevant portion of your message :) We can call the list whatever you like. indian-community sounds as good as any to me. Alright. Great

Re: Entry for gnome-system-log in bugzilla ?

2009-12-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/21/2009 10:18 PM, Eric Tanguy wrote: I can't find where to report bug against gnome-system-log ? Thanks Eric Bugzilla lists source RPM names. # rpm -qf /usr/bin/gnome-system-log gnome-system-log # rpm -qi gnome-system-log shows that gnome-utils is the srpm. Therefore, report it to

Re: Annoyance Re: Gnotes ?!?

2009-12-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/20/2009 08:10 PM, William Case wrote: Hi; I have replaced TomBoy (which I used throughout the day) with Gnote. I want to set Gnote in my startup file so that it starts with the icon in the notification bar but the search window NOT open. I can get what I want when I start gnote

Re: Whereis gnome-volume-manager in FC12

2009-12-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/22/2009 07:11 AM, Jim wrote: Can some one tell what happen to gnome-volume-manager in FC12 ? Obsoleted by Nautilus for several releases IIRC. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/17/2009 03:20 PM, Christof Damian wrote: I just find it annoying that some people seem to have File a bug. in their signature, when one should assume that on fedora-devel everyone would file a bug for valid problems. It might and should be different on fedora or the forums. They do

Re: Omega (Boxer) Fedora Remix

2009-12-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/17/2009 03:04 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: And of course I installed it only a day before the final release came out! Is it something I can repair or do I need to start over. My b.w. usage is limited and I watch it carefully, another gigabyte download is significant although

Re: Omega (Boxer) Fedora Remix

2009-12-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/17/2009 03:23 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: After the first yum update: Linux box6 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Dec 9 10:46:22 EST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Grub shows the original as: vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64 Notice that it appears to have

Re: Omega (Boxer) Fedora Remix

2009-12-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/17/2009 04:13 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: The question then becomes what is box 6? Is it capable of running as a a 64 bit computer? I do a lot of reconfiguration immediately after install and yum collected 64 bit apps wherever possible and it all seems to be working! Do I need to

Re: How to identify 32 or 64 bits -

2009-12-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/17/2009 06:11 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Can someone tell me how to determine if a computer can run 64 bit Fedora? I have two similar Dell desk top computers with what appears to be the same processor, one of which has had F-12 64 bit installed on it and seems to be

Omega (Boxer) Fedora Remix

2009-12-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, Omega is a completely free and open source Linux based operating system and a Fedora remix suitable for desktop and laptop users. It is a installable Live image for regular PC (i686 architecture) systems. It has all the features of Fedora and number of additional software including multimedia

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/17/2009 12:46 PM, Christof Damian wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 19:58, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: pavucontrol currently crashes (and pulseaudio) for me on one machine and I need this functionality. File a bug. Could everyone on this list please assume that I

Re: Omega (Boxer) Fedora Remix

2009-12-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/17/2009 01:14 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: Will there ever be an x86_64 version? Don't have a x86_64 box myself but I will try and generate a image somehow. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Omega (Boxer) Fedora Remix

2009-12-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/17/2009 12:44 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Are there any differences between this and Omega012-i686-Live-RC1.iso that I just installed. I had some trouble making it work as an NFS clent ... Other than that it looks good.,, Yeah. RC1 had a important kernel issue (wrong arch) that has

Re: Do you know about Omega?

2009-12-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/17/2009 11:56 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: sha256sum -c *-CHECKSUM sha256sum: Omega-12-i686-Live-CHECKSUM: no properly formatted SHA256 checksum lines found There still is a problem. Yeah. I have fixed the instructions and the file. Your checksum does match btw. Beside, since both the

Anyone else want to maintain alltray?

2009-12-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi It is a application that lets you minimize any app to the system tray and is compatible with GNOME, Xfce, KDE etc. It has a dormant upstream and I haven't had time to look into all the crash reports from Abrt. If noone picks it up, I will orphan it in a week. $ yum info alltray Loaded

Re: Fedora Installation Guide: a brief rant

2009-12-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/13/2009 09:04 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Am I alone in finding the Fedora Installation Guide at http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/ almost completely useless? The only installation method described with any clarity is the creation and use of a Fedora DVD. But

Re: Marketing FAD 2010 - First Brainstorm

2009-12-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/09/2009 10:11 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: I'll add this to the wiki, but just wanted to throw this out there - I know there is probably (a) a budget of sorts, and (b) budgets for a lot of us who wouldn't have corporate sponsorship from our employer (ie - students and such) I would be

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/11/2009 02:07 PM, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have forked libtar as libtar-ng, because the upstream does not have time to maintain it anymore. Here is the bz: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=546169 Now the

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/11/2009 03:56 PM, Florian Festi wrote: Without knowing the history: Best solution would be to ask former upstream for permission to continue the project under its original name That was already denied https://lists.feep.net:8080/pipermail/libtar/2009-May/000259.html Rahul --

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/11/2009 04:38 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:14:40 +0530, Rahul wrote: On 12/11/2009 03:56 PM, Florian Festi wrote: Without knowing the history: Best solution would be to ask former upstream for permission to continue the project under its original name That

Re: The Phantom Update

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/11/2009 04:05 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/12/11 Rahul Sundaram : File a bug report against gnome-packagekit. Seems to be a recurring bug. In the future, can you tell people to search for existing bugs in bugzilla _before_ they file bugs please. The person I replied to is a long

Re: The Phantom Update

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/11/2009 04:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Too bad you replied in public where others may read it who are not long time users/contributors and follow your advice. If they are following advice, then they should follow my advice as written in detail at

Re: Is this possible in Fedora?

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/11/2009 08:34 PM, Tim wrote: It'll take quite some effort, not impossible, but very difficult, to get a signed compromising package into the repos. Unfortunately, I don't think it's that difficult. Why do you believe it is? Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

Re: Is this possible in Fedora?

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/11/2009 10:49 PM, Greg Woods wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 22:16 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/11/2009 08:34 PM, Tim wrote: It'll take quite some effort, not impossible, but very difficult, to get a signed compromising package into the repos. Unfortunately, I don't think it's

Re: yum install mencoder makes X11 flaky

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/11/2009 11:08 PM, Kelly Jones wrote: Ever since I yum install mencoder, my X server's been flaky + frequently crashing. I remember yum installing/upgrading libraries when I ran the command above, but don't remember what the libraries were. How do I find out what yum

Re: The Phantom Update

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/12/2009 03:14 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org writes: If they are following advice, then they should follow my advice as written in detail at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests I'm not usually a fan of adding programs

Omega 12 Release Candidate 1

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi Omega, a Fedora Remix has a RC1 out for your feedback. http://omega.dgplug.org/12/Live/i686/tmp/Omega-12-i686-Live-RC1.iso It is a 1.3 GB Live image for x86_32 bit systems that has Openoffice.org, multimedia codecs, games, extra utilities and rolls in all of the recent updates. More details

Re: Omega 12 Release Candidate 1

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/12/2009 07:42 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Cool. I'd like to install onto a usb-flash to give to my girlfriend, but when I tried F12 (not remix) it came up without the needed broadcom legacy firmware. Is this included? If not, any guide to how to roll my own that would include this?

[In the news] Fedora 12 – A Visually-Pleasing , Highly-Configurable Linux Distro You Might Want To Try

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fedora-12-a-visually-pleasing-highly-configurable-linux-distro-you-might-want-to-try/ I know in my heart of hearts that Fedora is a good distro, even if it’s not my cup of tea. It’s backed by Red Hat, it is the first to include the latest in hardware support and

[In the news] Distro Review: Fedora 12

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/12/f12/ Fedora advocates always point to the fact that it often has new innovations before other distros. The developers work really hard on this and I think they see themselves as trail blazers in a way. They push a lot of their work back upstream and that’s

Re: Google Chrome repo now available

2009-12-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/10/2009 01:29 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org writes: You can use http://spot.fedorapeople.org/chromium/ Thanks. Yes, I've been happily using that one for a while. It is pretty darn usable. Do you by any chance know what keeps it out

Re: The Phantom Update

2009-12-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/11/2009 07:24 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: A tiny orange octogon keeps popping up on my toolbar. Mousing over it brings up a tooltip bubble: There is 1 update available. Clicking on the icon runs gpk-update-viewer, which immediately tells me that no updates are available. Closing

Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?

2009-12-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/09/2009 10:17 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/09/2009 04:14 PM, James Antill wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 15:26 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: So, yeh, if _you_ want to support slower machines Well, I do not want to, I can't avoid to ... ... _you_ will have to do the work, you

Non responsive maintainer: Karol Trzcionka

2009-12-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, As per policy at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers, I have filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=546072 Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Non responsive maintainer: Karol Trzcionka

2009-12-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/10/2009 04:02 AM, Debayan Banerjee wrote: 2009/12/10 Debayan Banerjee 2009/12/10 Rahul Sundaram Hi, As per policy at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers, I have filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=546072 This person used

Re: Google Chrome repo now available

2009-12-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/09/2009 09:52 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 08:36 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: The repo is installed when installing the new, officially supported Chrome beta from http://www.google.com/chrome/index.htm Anyone know how this relates to the existing Chromium

Re: Google Chrome repo now available

2009-12-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/10/2009 06:34 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com writes: The repo is installed when installing the new, officially supported Chrome beta from http://www.google.com/chrome/index.htm I was intending to install it until I got to the licensing

Re: preupgrade with local repo

2009-12-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/09/2009 05:41 AM, idwsh6...@sneakemail.com wrote: I tried to use preupgrade with a modified releases.txt that points to a local repository. But preupgrade is still going to the mirrors over the internet. Does anyone have an example releases.txt that demonstrates how to do preupgrade

Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.8.0-beta1 about to hit rawhide

2009-12-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/08/2009 03:59 AM, Mat Booth wrote: 2009/12/7 Panu Matilainen Now that FESCo has approved new major RPM version for F-13 and the public beta is officially out... it's going to hit rawhide in a few hours. I remember hearing a rumour about automagic OSGi dependency resolution... Is

Re: Parallel XZ - request for testing

2009-12-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/02/2009 07:09 PM, Jindrich Novy wrote: Hi all, the Parallel XZ just reached usable state so if you want to take advantage of parallel LZMA compression, please give it a try before its inclusion into Fedora. PXZ homepage is: http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/pxz/ Are you moving this to

Re: Plan for Thunderbird in F12?

2009-12-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/08/2009 05:35 AM, Steven Stern wrote: We've been running on Thunderbird 3, beta 4 for a while now. The current beta release is RC2, released on 12/1. Is the plan to stay on beta 4 until the release of version 3 or will the updates repo pick up the release candidates? The latest RC is

Re: [Fedora-mentors-list] Joining Fedora Mentors

2009-12-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/05/2009 10:46 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, I am interested in mentoring candidates for Fedora Electronic Lab (FEL), primarily focussing on: * Packaging software for FEL * Development for upstream (as required) * Documentation Wiki profile:

Re: No system-config-display ?

2009-12-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/05/2009 03:27 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 06/12/09 04:49, Roger wrote: On 12/05/2009 08:44 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I just installed [yum] system-config-display and get the following message when I try to use it: All I want to do is determine what display parameters I am using?

Re: is there any inconvenience in defining new yum groups?

2009-12-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/02/2009 03:57 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: is there a way to request new yum groups related to a particular issue? i'm thinking of embedded linux developers, who might want to install the Embedded Linux group, which would contain packages like squashfs-tools, mtd-tools, mtd-tools-ubi

Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development

2009-11-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/01/2009 02:59 AM, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: I consider real men to be a gender-neutral complement. I know women who gladly receive it and exchange it amongst themselves. Since we're offering Casey money to do things¹ today: I will send you a check for $5 if you admit that real men is _in

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/30/2009 01:33 AM, Ikem Krueger wrote: The Bugzappers also always happy to have more people volunteer to help with X.org bug triage; it's a lot of work to keep on top of. I'd like to help. But the wikipage for testing Xorg issues* is a way to much to read, given the case you follow all

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2009 11:38 AM, Dave Airlie wrote: Don't use radeonhd, the Fedora X team don't support it and never have. I'm thinking it should reallyt be removed from the distro at this point That makes sense. Why don't we drop this from Rawhide? Shipping unsupported drivers like this is

Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development

2009-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/28/2009 02:12 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I just did a new install on a spare laptop. I chose the Software Development option. Emacs did not get installed. Also, although neither mysql-devel, nor postgresql-devel, nor even libtool-ltdl-devel got installed, I ended up with a huge

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/28/2009 02:13 AM, Dave Airlie wrote: We (Red Hat or Fedora) currently don't have access to any sort of conformance suite for our GL though Intel and VMware have started at least doing more and more regression test work lately so less and less crap is making it way into the mainline and

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/28/2009 02:21 AM, Felix Miata wrote: What makes your statement invalid is your use of the word essential. Bling and essential are mutually exclusive characteristics WRT to normal desktop users. I didn't use the word useless. And yes, 3D is way more - way more overhead, way more

Re: GrNotify is dead

2009-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/27/2009 10:29 PM, Guillaume Kulakowski wrote: Hi, I package GrNotify but the project is dead. I have reported some bug to upstream and I have proposed some patch but no new release since 9 months. I think remove it from Fedora but I don't know any replacement solution. That do you

Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development

2009-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/28/2009 02:32 AM, Debayan Banerjee wrote: 2009/11/28 Rahul Sundaram Why? It's just shows your personal preference for a editor. Emacs is certainly not needed for software development. Well one does need an editor for development. Assuming vim and emacs have roughly equal user bases

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/28/2009 02:49 AM, Felix Miata wrote: On 2009/11/28 02:53 (GMT+0530) Rahul Sundaram composed: On 11/28/2009 02:21 AM, Felix Miata wrote: What makes your statement invalid is your use of the word essential. Bling and essential are mutually exclusive characteristics WRT to normal desktop

Re: Looking for testers: RPM 4.8 pre-release snapshots available

2009-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/28/2009 03:14 AM, John Poelstra wrote: Bruno Wolff III said the following on 11/27/2009 11:59 AM Pacific Time: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:41:17 -0800, John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Schedule Is there a calendar page for that that

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/28/2009 03:26 AM, Felix Miata wrote: On 2009/11/28 03:37 (GMT+0530) Rahul Sundaram composed: Compositing is sooner or later going to be enabled by default everywhere. Somehow those niche users managed 10-20 years ago before there was such a thing as 3D support in XFree86/Xorg

Re: Intro

2009-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/28/2009 02:26 AM, John Stanton wrote: Hi, I always suck at these things, but here goes. I have been using Fedora for the past year and am loving it. I am looking to gain more experience and skills. Also I am wanting to contribute however I can to the fedora project. I can also

Re: Is F12 ready to upgrade ? Is it worth it ?

2009-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/28/2009 01:29 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote: Indeed and a minute ago I notice that currently the OS page shows F11 50.7% and F12 11.6% - I wonder if the ratio of F12 to F11 users will change markedly over the next month? You can look at the current growth rate and for previous releases at:

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/26/2009 07:54 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote: That is true, but a major amount of work in getting a release out must be testing it. Those Fedora people involved in the testing, which are also user-testers, have their own systems with there own hardware and are fully conversant with delving

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/26/2009 08:09 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote: I have not entered any bugzilla numbers as yet. I spent days with F11 and previous releases diagnosing reporting and attempting to fix bugs. No graphics updates were ever made available for F11 and still Fedora cannot run even Blender on most of

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/26/2009 08:34 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote: Yes, clear bug reports are needed but they also need the follow through to a fix and updated packages. Agreed. File specific bug reports and post the links here. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/26/2009 08:38 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 20:13 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Specific bug reports are definitely going to help. Here are 4 to start with: 1) Cronometer crashes KDE session. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504173 Filed against wrong

Re: Gnome menus missing in Fedora 12

2009-11-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/25/2009 05:26 PM, Jorge Manta Bulhoes wrote: Hello, I have a big problem in Fedora 12, and I'm a step away from format all and kick it back to F11. All my gnome menus disapeard and can't get them back. I don't have file menus in evolution, terminal, gimp and all gnome utils.

Re: F12 preupgrade locale error

2009-11-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/25/2009 02:22 PM, Luc MAIGNAN wrote: Hi, I wanted to migrate all my servers from F11 To F12. Some work well. But some on the reboot after preupgrade, anaconda gives me an error in a python script : error : unsupported locale settings and the installation halts Any idea ? I don't

Re: Just a quick double-check question re installation of LiveCD

2009-11-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/25/2009 10:06 PM, William Case wrote: Hi; Is the LiveCD updated as bugs are discovered and fixed, or do I get all fixes subsequent to installation from the update repo? In other words, if I download and burn the LiveCD now, it will remain the same when it comes to installing F12 on

Re: Upgrading : give me strength ...

2009-11-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/25/2009 09:11 PM, Beartooth wrote: That url is the troubleshooting site I meant. I've tried both ways. The first fails because I can't get enough cruft out of /boot; Ok. So whats the size of your /boot and how much space is left? How many kernels do you have installed? You can use

Re: Is F12 ready to upgrade ? Is it worth it ?

2009-11-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/25/2009 10:58 PM, Craig White wrote: I think perhaps preupgrade should automatically remove all but the latest and if not the same, the currently running kernel to make all possible space in /boot. By automatically, if you mean, do after prompting, it isn't a bad idea. Please file a

Re: Is F12 ready to upgrade ? Is it worth it ?

2009-11-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/26/2009 01:07 AM, Peter Boy wrote: F12 has some new features (see release notes) which come in quite handy for me and I'm luckily using some of them. I am curious, which features in particular? Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: livecds in the future

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/24/2009 08:35 PM, Simon Andrews wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/24/2009 02:21 AM, Ben Williams wrote: If release engineering would like to release liveusb.iso for people to use to install or just to look at the new features, that is fine But from the #fedora channel the # of people

Re: Bug triage: further change upcoming

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/24/2009 10:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi, guys. Just a quick note - Matej Cepl pointed out that the already-agreed BugZappers plan to switch to using the Triaged keyword only for Fedora 13 and later presents problems. Most significantly, it's impossible to reliably construct a

Re: livecds in the future

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/24/2009 11:57 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 20:47 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: We are not discarding CD images all together. If you feel there is a compelling reason to continue with a Live CD, I am afraid you will have to step up and do it. The tools are easy

Re: Fedora 12 x86 DVD images

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/25/2009 12:24 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 12:24 -0600, Sir Gallantmon wrote: Why not label it x86_32 instead of i386? That is far less confusing and illustrates that it is 32-bit on the x86 architecture, since x86_64 says it is 64-bit on x86 architecture. Because

Re: Fedora 12 x86 DVD images

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/25/2009 12:56 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Should there be a RFE bug or rel-eng ticket created so this e-mail thread is not for nothing? It's been discussed since the beginning of time AFAIK. Tickets have been filed and closed before, IIRC. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing

Re: Wiki soft

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/24/2009 01:13 PM, Luc MAIGNAN wrote: Hi, I need to setup a wiki system for my company. I need something simple to use, but robust, customizable with a database support (MySql or PostgreSql) What is the best choice ? Thanks for advices Mediawiki is what Fedora uses and it works

Re: Upgrading : give me strength ...

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/24/2009 11:32 PM, Beartooth wrote: I've tried all the tricks on this list a/o the troubleshooting site, over and over. I finally gave up : downloaded and burned a DVD -- and *still* hit the catch-22 error, with too little space in mnt/sysimage/ boot. Now what?

Re: What Java should be installed?

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/24/2009 11:45 PM, Steven Stern wrote: When I go to java.com, it tells me I don't have the recommended version of Java installed. Java applets seem to run OK within firefox. It appears that F12 uses openjdk at version 1.6.0. Is is a problem to be behind the java.com version of 6.17

Re: Omega 12?

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/24/2009 11:47 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: Is new Omega 12 (Fedora remix/respin) finished? Not yet. I am waiting to roll in the initial set of updates to get a solid release. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: Omega 12?

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/25/2009 12:58 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: Could you please share your current kickstart file? .ks file is independent on updates, right? Have you thought of packaging omega kickstart file and puting it in rpmfusion as an package? Will there be some website for Omega or Wiki page? RPM

Re: Omega 12?

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/25/2009 01:10 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/24/2009 11:47 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: Is new Omega 12 (Fedora remix/respin) finished? Not yet. I am waiting to roll in the initial set of updates to get a solid release. Bravo! I haven't looked at Omega in some

Re: f12 relese

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/24/2009 10:14 PM, Vincent Onelli wrote: Hi, Is f12 now officially released? Vinny Yes, for about a week. Go grab it from http://fedoraproject.org Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

Re: F12: msn video conferencing with empathy

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/25/2009 04:45 AM, Louis E Garcia II wrote: Has anyone been able to get msn video conferencing working with empathy? Mic and cam icons show up next to contacts but when trying I can see myself with my cam but I can't see them. I think video is not fully baked yet in empathy or I'm missing

Re: Disable Personal File Sharing prompt in Download folder

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/25/2009 09:57 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Starting with F12/Gnome 2.28 I have a light red box in nautilus only with the Download folder. It informs you that you can use Personal File Sharing with this folder. How do you remove this prompt? I do not have it on one system, but I do

Re: Disable Personal File Sharing prompt in Download folder

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/25/2009 11:06 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 11/24/2009 10:26 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: You can remove gnome-user-shar ... I want to have Bluetooth sharing so I need to keep that package. Both machines have Bluetooth. Both have gnome-user-share installed. Ok. Do you have

[in the news] Distrowatch: First look at Fedora 12

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20091123#feature After spending several days with Fedora, I find that I'm happy with this release. The live CD by itself was a bit underwhelming, but the distribution as a whole has been excellent. This is probably the most stable and most polished

[in the news] Fedora 12 Pushes Bleeding Edge of Linux Networking

2009-11-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/6910/1/ For example, Fedora 12 offers netbook enhancements that Frields noted came from a community contributor. In Frields's view, what Fedora does is it provides a set of building blocks of well-engineered open source software. Anybody that

Re: livecds in the future

2009-11-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/24/2009 02:21 AM, Ben Williams wrote: If release engineering would like to release liveusb.iso for people to use to install or just to look at the new features, that is fine But from the #fedora channel the # of people installing off of the livecd images are very high (if you want to

Re: livecds in the future

2009-11-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/24/2009 03:39 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: The netinst.iso would involve less downloaded content than the 700M live image. How would it not fit their needs? Perhaps net installation can be promoted as a spin and given appropriate amount of attention in http://spins.fedoraproject.org

Re: Kernel-2.6.31.6-134 seems to have a bug on R600 DRM

2009-11-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/24/2009 09:54 AM, Otto Haliburton wrote: from the descriptions I have seen on this thread there is a possibility that it was, although remote. Maybe it is the tone of what you are saying. Tone it down and be more tolerant is by far a more rational approach. People won't report their

Re: could the missing codec redirection be more informative?

2009-11-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/23/2009 06:05 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: on a fresh (and barely configured) f12 system, i tried to view my first online .wmv file and was redirected here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageKit_Items_Not_Found#Missing_Codec which is moderately informative in terms of telling

Re: Fedora-release RPMS ?

2009-11-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/24/2009 03:00 AM, Jim wrote: What is the latest fedora-release and fedora-release-notes rpms. I have ; fedora-release-12-2 fedora-release-notes-12.0.2-1.fc12 I'm not getting any updates and a lot of can't find a lot of fedora repos # yum clean metadata Try again. If that doesn't

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