On Monday 07 July 2008 04:48:15 pds wrote:
It's about choice, NOT what is better about KDE4 its more about what
is MISSING! If you can't understand that some users work in a specific
way or need to work in a specific way then.
Just what is it you don't understand? You have a choice. More
pds wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500
Please read the FAQ again. I would *love* to be able to provide just
that, and asked developers point-blank if this is something
possible(1) or supported. Answer was no.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/KDE4FAQ
(1) without horrible
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 07 July 2008 04:48:15 pds wrote:
It's about choice, NOT what is better about KDE4 its more about what
is MISSING! If you can't understand that some users work in a specific
way or need to work in a specific way
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
pds wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500
Please read the FAQ again. I would *love* to be able to provide just
that, and asked developers point-blank if this is something
possible(1) or supported. Answer was no.
Pete Snider wrote:
Thank you for pointing that out, I wasn't aware that all packages had
to be able to be installed at one time.
I'll try it on a fresh disk this week, it should be interesting.
The guidelines are more detailed than that.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Conflicts
You
On Monday 07 July 2008 13:09:12 Pete Snider wrote:
Please go and make KDE 4.x as good as (meaning equivalent
functionality) KDE 3.5.
People are working flat out to do just that. However, the constant whining
just de-motivates them. I intend to continue trying to help those who ask
for it,
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 07 July 2008 13:09:12 Pete Snider wrote:
Please go and make KDE 4.x as good as (meaning equivalent
functionality) KDE 3.5.
People are working flat out to do just that. However, the constant whining
just
Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
2008/7/7, pds [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500
Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
pds wrote:
When features are in KDE3.5 work better than the newer version,
I'll ask for the older version back anytime. You want specific
examples:
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:24 AM, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
2008/7/7, pds [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500
Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
pds wrote:
When features are in KDE3.5 work better than the newer version,
I'll ask for the
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:52:22 -0400
max [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rex Dieter wrote:
mike cloaked wrote:
Most of the complainers do not directly fix things - so we all
perhaps need a little patience and do our bit to help rather than
simply grumble.
Be careful, I'd really like to
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500
Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
pds wrote:
When features are in KDE3.5 work better than the newer version,
I'll ask for the older version back anytime. You want specific
examples:
And there are a multitude of specific examples where kde4 is
On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:09:57 -0500
Arthur Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:01 PM, pds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:52:22 -0400
max [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rex Dieter wrote:
mike cloaked wrote:
Most of the complainers do not directly
AnneWilson wrote:
On Thursday 26 June 2008 16:58:56 Bill Davidsen wrote:
and it will NEVER be improved because they want it to work differently.
So in your opinion 'different' can't ever be better?
I define an improvement as doing something better, as in faster, using
fewer resources, more
Mike Bird wrote:
On Fri June 20 2008 18:50:45 David Boles wrote:
But you do know that you new distro will switch to KDE 4.0 soon too right?
Your definition of soon must be different than mine:
Fedora will support KDE 3.5 until approximately December 2008.
Kubuntu will support KDE 3.5 until
David Boles wrote:
Mike Bird wrote:
On Sat June 21 2008 16:11:26 Kevin Kofler wrote:
When KDE 4.0 was released in January a consensus was reached that major
releases of KDE 4 should occur at six month intervals. Although there
has been some discussion of four month cycles, the consensus for
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Bill Davidsen wrote:
David Boles wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well the main idea behind PA is to eradicate that problem since it
will be a super set
And, as I said, I have no problems
On Thursday 26 June 2008 16:58:56 Bill Davidsen wrote:
and it will NEVER be improved because they want it to work differently.
So in your opinion 'different' can't ever be better?
Anne
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On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 21:29 +0100, AnneWilson wrote:
On Thursday 26 June 2008 17:08:28 Gene Heskett wrote:
As do I, David. And PA wrecked it all until I had gotten out the knife and
removed as much of it as I could. This is not to say that something like
PA isn't potentially useful, but
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 22:18 -0400, David Boles wrote:
A sensible person would run CentOS, or RHEL, or one of the many
others, for a server. It would be foolish to run any distro, such as
Fedora, there are many others, in a production type situation.
Something that changes as often, as quickly,
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 00:32 -0400, Claude Jones wrote:
There's someone on this list who is running a huge cluster of Fedora
servers doing scientific work in a Govt. agency. There are many, many
others running Fedora in production situations...
In business, you use whatever does the job. While
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 20:41 -0400, Kelly Miller wrote:
On June 22, 2008 8:00:27 am Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
Em Domingo 22 Junho 2008, Kelly Miller escreveu:
And don't give me the crap that Fedora is bleeding edge software.
F9 is beyond bleeding, its suicidal.
Actually, I
David Boles wrote:
A sensible person would run CentOS, or RHEL, or one of the many others,
for a server. It would be foolish to run any distro, such as Fedora, there
are many others, in a production type situation.
I'm glad, and a little surprised, to find that I am not foolish,
at least in
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 14:57 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
One thing that slightly surprises me is that having a server
that runs 5 times as fast, with 4 times as much memory,
as my greatly-loved ancient Asus server
does not in fact seem to speed anything up noticeably.
A computer spends much
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Boles wrote:
One thing that slightly surprises me is that having a server
that runs 5 times as fast, with 4 times as much memory,
as my greatly-loved ancient Asus server
does not in fact seem to speed anything up
g wrote:
in a free world without fences, who needs gates.
I thing this should read:
In a free world without fences, who needs Gates.
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I thing this should read:
In a free world without fences, who needs Gates.
i will 'shift+g' for God, but never for bill. ;o)
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Actually, I find that greatly ironic, as I switched temporarily to openSUSE
because IMO Fedora isn't moving fast ENOUGH for my taste.
I too did this briefly, but they can't even keep their mirrors
operational on release day, and the system gets in your way entirely too
much, so I'm back...
[Tim wrote about sound mixing]
Patrick O'Callaghan:
Totally agree with this. It's hard enough even figuring out what the
various mixer controls even control.
David Boles:
It is a choice. If you, either of you, do not like it you should disable it.
But I seriously doubt that Pulseaudio will
Em Domingo 22 Junho 2008, Kelly Miller escreveu:
And don't give me the crap that Fedora is bleeding edge software.
F9 is beyond bleeding, its suicidal.
Actually, I find that greatly ironic, as I switched temporarily to
openSUSE because IMO Fedora isn't moving fast ENOUGH for my taste. I
Francis Earl francis.earl at gmail.com writes:
If you really want KDE3, just set up a repo in Koji and be done with it.
Koji personal repos are not implemented yet.
KDE doesn't even have any type of SELinux support, so the leading reason
for using Fedora isn't even applicable for it...
Huh?
On June 22, 2008 8:00:27 am Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
Em Domingo 22 Junho 2008, Kelly Miller escreveu:
And don't give me the crap that Fedora is bleeding edge software.
F9 is beyond bleeding, its suicidal.
Actually, I find that greatly ironic, as I switched temporarily to
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 05:56 +, g wrote:
David Boles wrote:
Then, if I was you I would run to these other distros and drop Fedora
like a hot brick. Oh, BTW, IMO *anyone* that would use Fedora version
anything in a production environment is a fool. Fedora itself has said
that. Many
Ric Moore wrote:
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 05:56 +, g wrote:
It might be better to avoid the use of labels as much as possible. I
know it's hard to do in practice. Sadly, I have my share of favorites.
Idiot just rolls off the fingers when typing it. So does Twit.
That's a really good one.
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 22:19 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
2. It attaches a negative aspersion to anyone who doesn't agree with
your thinking.
Doesn't mean it's wrong.
There's a philosophy on the ruby on rails list - in fact all ruby lists
relating to the author of the ruby
Mike Bird wrote:
On Sun June 22 2008 19:18:46 David Boles wrote:
A sensible person would run CentOS, or RHEL, or one of the many others, for
a server. It would be foolish to run any distro, such as Fedora, there are
many others, in a production type situation.
Would it meet your definition
David Boles dgboles at gmail.com writes:
So what are you saying here? Yahoo should run Fedora on theri
servers? Or Google? Or NASA?
NASA actually uses Fedora on some of their machines. They do also use RHEL
though. See Jack Aboutboul's account:
On Sun June 22 2008, David Boles wrote:
So tell me Ric. What would you call someone that would do this, described
above? Bob? Fred? Or a fool?
There's someone on this list who is running a huge cluster of Fedora servers
doing scientific work in a Govt. agency. There are many, many others
Craig White wrote:
snip
I have a lot of machines running Fedora 8 / KDE and none experience the
issue you are talking about. I suspect there is a problem with your
installation because that is not an issue with Fedora 8/KDE.
not an issue for you, yet in a couple of past post, i do believe
On Saturday 21 June 2008 00:47:24 Mike Bird wrote:
The other distros are supporting both KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.x for one to
three years. This allows people to migrate once KDE 4.x meets their
needs.
As I mentioned elsewhere, I have one system that has both 3.5 and 4.0 running.
Compromises are
On Friday 20 June 2008 23:53:47 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
I saw no one stating nothing like that. The blame some people have put
on Fedora was for shipping an incomplete KDE4 when there was the option
to ship the fully functional KDE 3.5.9. These people said that Fedora
should have waited
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 10:48 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 20 June 2008 23:53:47 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
I saw no one stating nothing like that. The blame some people have put
on Fedora was for shipping an incomplete KDE4 when there was the option
to ship the fully functional KDE
On Saturday 21 June 2008 12:16:20 Craig White wrote:
My first reaction to finding that I didn't have desktop icons for my nfs
shares was a feeling of loss, yet I can open those shares in either
dolphin or konqueror, so it's really no more than a minor inconvenience.
The same goes for most
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 12:34 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 21 June 2008 12:16:20 Craig White wrote:
My first reaction to finding that I didn't have desktop icons for my nfs
shares was a feeling of loss, yet I can open those shares in either
dolphin or konqueror, so it's really no
On Saturday 21 June 2008 12:58:11 Craig White wrote:
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 12:34 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 21 June 2008 12:16:20 Craig White wrote:
My first reaction to finding that I didn't have desktop icons for my
nfs shares was a feeling of loss, yet I can open those
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 13:04 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 21 June 2008 12:58:11 Craig White wrote:
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 12:34 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 21 June 2008 12:16:20 Craig White wrote:
My first reaction to finding that I didn't have desktop icons for my
On Saturday 21 June 2008 13:23:59 Craig White wrote:
As Timothy Murphy will tell you, I am pretty adamant that the Internet
provides too many confusing LDAP walk-throughs that don't correlate with
each other and will typically lead to frustration and the most simple
way to learn LDAP is Gerald
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
They'll wait till Fedora users and other similar early adopters have
helped iron out the bugs. Kinda like Pulse Audio, NetworkManager, etc
I fear that will be a very long wait ...
Actually, NM has been getting slowly but steadily better on my machines.
It would have
Mike Bird wrote:
Please see the subject of this thread. Those of us who are switching
are doing so because the answer to the question was negative. We didn't
randomly upgrade our production systems. We tested F9 and determined
that KDE 4.x is not ready for prime time.
I don't understand
Timothy Murphy wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
They'll wait till Fedora users and other similar early adopters have
helped iron out the bugs. Kinda like Pulse Audio, NetworkManager, etc
I fear that will be a very long wait ...
Actually, NM has been getting slowly but steadily better on my
Anne Wilson wrote:
LDAP does feel a bit daunting. I feel that it should be possible to learn
and activate one bit of its potential at a time, but after reading a
couple of
web pages about it I gave up. Does the book you mention lead you in
reasonably slowly? I've rather a lot on my plate
Mike Bird wrote:
The difference, Kevin, is that Kubuntu shipped KDE 4.x a month before
Fedora and will support KDE 3.5 nine months after Fedora ends support.
Kubuntu is providing people with three times the transition period that
Fedora is offering. Debian will probably go even further.
I
g wrote:
i am using f8 and from what i have been thru and still going thru,
i must say that f8 is not a whole lot better than what i am reading
that f9 is like.
...
when ever i go to shut down kde, i play a guessing game with it. should
i bother with 'log out' or go ahead and press
David Boles wrote:
Chill out guy. All you are hearing is the sour grapes. The 'happiest'
never post. Except for Anne.
Maybe happy pills should be circulated with Linux distributions ...
Seriously, I think Anne is too kind.
I am genuinely puzzled by the minor problems that came with KDE-4.
It
Timothy Murphy wrote:
David Boles wrote:
Chill out guy. All you are hearing is the sour grapes. The 'happiest'
never post. Except for Anne.
Maybe happy pills should be circulated with Linux distributions ...
Seriously, I think Anne is too kind.
I am genuinely puzzled by the minor problems
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 16:26 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
David Boles wrote:
Chill out guy. All you are hearing is the sour grapes. The 'happiest'
never post. Except for Anne.
Maybe happy pills should be circulated with Linux distributions ...
Seriously, I think Anne is too kind.
I am
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 15:57 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
LDAP does feel a bit daunting. I feel that it should be possible to learn
and activate one bit of its potential at a time, but after reading a
couple of
web pages about it I gave up. Does the book you mention
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 16:15 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Isn't ctrl-alt-backspace meant to kill X, rather than shutdown?
(I could be wrong as I never use it.)
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace kills the X server. It's not clear to me whether
there is any practical difference between doing that and hitting a
Em Sábado 21 Junho 2008, Patrick O'Callaghan escreveu:
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 16:15 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Isn't ctrl-alt-backspace meant to kill X, rather than shutdown?
(I could be wrong as I never use it.)
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace kills the X server. It's not clear to me whether
there is
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 4:41 AM, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 21 June 2008 00:47:24 Mike Bird wrote:
The other distros are supporting both KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.x for one to
three years. This allows people to migrate once KDE 4.x meets their
needs.
As I mentioned elsewhere,
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 10:41 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
Arthur - you wrote They'll wait till Fedora users and other similar
early adopters have helped iron out the bugs. Kinda like Pulse Audio,
NetworkManager, etc. Yes, someone has to be an early adopter for
bugs to be ironed out.
By that
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:35 -0400, David Boles wrote:
Pulseaudio is supposed to allow you to set the volume level(s) of
various applications/output devices so that they can be different.
Music soft. Ta-Ta! loud. As well as others. What is not so functional
is the applications that are not yet
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 13:50 -0300, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
CTRL+ALT+BS kills X and the graphical login manager too, so it
re-reads the xorg.conf file (if you have altered it, this is needed),
reload video drivers (if you have updated it, this is needed) and
reload the xdm/gdm/kdm
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:40 +0930, Tim wrote:
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:35 -0400, David Boles wrote:
Pulseaudio is supposed to allow you to set the volume level(s) of
various applications/output devices so that they can be different.
Music soft. Ta-Ta! loud. As well as others. What is not
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 13:50 -0300, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
Em Sábado 21 Junho 2008, Patrick O'Callaghan escreveu:
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 16:15 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Isn't ctrl-alt-backspace meant to kill X, rather than shutdown?
(I could be wrong as I never use it.)
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:40 +0930, Tim wrote:
Totally agree with this. It's hard enough even figuring out what the
various mixer controls even control.
It is a choice. If you, either of you, do not like it you should disable it.
But I seriously doubt that
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 14:36 -0400, David Boles wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:40 +0930, Tim wrote:
Totally agree with this. It's hard enough even figuring out what the
various mixer controls even control.
It is a choice. If you, either of you, do not like
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 14:36 -0400, David Boles wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:40 +0930, Tim wrote:
Totally agree with this. It's hard enough even figuring out what the
various mixer controls even control.
It is a choice. If you, either
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 14:36 -0400, David Boles wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:40 +0930, Tim wrote:
Totally agree with this. It's hard enough even figuring out what the
various mixer
Timothy Murphy wrote:
when ever i go to shut down kde, i play a guessing game with it. should
i bother with 'log out' or go ahead and press ctrl+alt+bkspc, which,
by the way, fails almost as often as 'log out'.
Seems to me you ought to clarify your problem,
eg what do you mean by log out?
Craig White wrote:
It was started again virtually from scratch (KDE-4)
from where do you find this information?
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Mike Bird mgb-fedora at yosemite.net writes:
I'm expecting KDE 4.2 or KDE 4.3 to be suitable for prime time.
They should arrive in Fedora in May 2009 and November 2009.
I can't promise anything at this time (also because upstream hasn't decided on
a schedule for 4.2 yet, at least not that I
Craig White craigwhite at azapple.com writes:
People who do software development wouldn't care whether it's KDE 3.5 or
KDE 4
Actually they'll want KDE 4. Who wants to develop against an obsolete API?
Kevin Kofler
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Timothy Murphy gayleard at eircom.net writes:
It seems to me quite difficult to run KDE-3 and KDE-4 on the same machine.
How exactly do you do it?
Do you share the same /home partition between the two?
What the distributions shipping parallel-installable KDE 3 and 4 do is to use a
completely
Craig White craigwhite at azapple.com writes:
It was started again virtually from scratch (KDE-4)
That is one of those partial truths: yes, the main user-visible parts of the
desktop workspace were rewritten (Kicker and KDesktop replaced by Plasma), but
a lot of things have been ported: most
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well the main idea behind PA is to eradicate that problem since it
will be a super set
And, as I said, I have no problems with Pulseaudio. Why? Well I have a desktop
with 'normal' hardware.
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Mike Bird mgb-fedora at yosemite.net writes:
I'm expecting KDE 4.2 or KDE 4.3 to be suitable for prime time.
They should arrive in Fedora in May 2009 and November 2009.
I can't promise anything at this time (also because upstream hasn't decided on
a schedule for 4.2 yet,
On Sat June 21 2008 16:11:26 Kevin Kofler wrote:
Mike Bird mgb-fedora at yosemite.net writes:
I'm expecting KDE 4.2 or KDE 4.3 to be suitable for prime time.
They should arrive in Fedora in May 2009 and November 2009.
I can't promise anything at this time (also because upstream hasn't
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 20:28 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 23:24 +, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Craig White craigwhite at azapple.com writes:
People who do software development wouldn't care whether it's KDE 3.5 or
KDE 4
Actually they'll want KDE 4. Who wants to
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 22:51 +, g wrote:
Craig White wrote:
It was started again virtually from scratch (KDE-4)
from where do you find this information?
if you were running Fedora 9, you would know this because if it were
just migrating from QT-3 to QT-4, many of the applications
On Sat June 21 2008 16:53:07 David Boles wrote:
Hey Mike. Have you ever seen software released when it was scheduled to be
released? ;-) Not games (especially games), not drivers, not anything.
KDE 4.0 was released on schedule in January. KDE 4.1 is still on track
for July.
Except Linux
Mike Bird wrote:
On Sat June 21 2008 16:53:07 David Boles wrote:
KDE 4.0 was released on schedule in January. KDE 4.1 is still on track
for July.
So you did see the proposed schedule? And were aware of the possible problems.
Good work.
Most Fedora and Ubuntu releases are on time.
Mike Bird mgb-fedora at yosemite.net writes:
KDE 4.0 was released on schedule in January.
KDE 4.0 was originally scheduled for October 23, 2007, and even that was only
after months of mostly unscheduled development, with suggested release dates as
early as Fall 2006.
KDE 4.1 is still on
On Sat June 21 2008 19:15:57 David Boles wrote:
If you tried KDE 4.0 and it was not suitable I gather that you stayed with
F-8 and KDE 3.5.9? Or did you upgrade anyway? Bitching and whining about
this solves nothing.
David, you asked this question. I answered it. You asked if I had
answered
Craig White wrote:
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 20:28 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 23:24 +, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Craig White craigwhite at azapple.com writes:
People who do software development wouldn't care whether it's KDE 3.5 or
KDE 4
Actually they'll want KDE 4. Who
Mike Bird wrote:
On Sat June 21 2008 19:15:57 David Boles wrote:
David, you asked this question. I answered it. You asked if I had
answered your question and asked your question again. I answered
your question again. Now you reply to my answer to your question by
asking the same question
David Boles wrote:
Then, if I was you I would run to these other distros and drop Fedora
like a hot brick. Oh, BTW, IMO *anyone* that would use Fedora version
anything in a production environment is a fool. Fedora itself has said
that. Many times.
david,
please do not call someone a 'fool'.
Konstantin Svist wrote:
I have a question for you, as a maintainer: how much trouble would one
run into if one wanted to build/maintain unofficial KDE 3 packages for F9?
trouble? none
It would be a significant amount of work, but if someone was interested and
willing to do something like
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike Bird wrote:
My loyalty is to keeping my systems secure and my users productive.
It's hard to believe that Red Hat would ship KDE 4.1 in F10, but if
it does KDE users will just choose another distro and install it.
Rex Dieter wrote:
Konstantin Svist wrote:
I have a question for you, as a maintainer: how much trouble would one
run into if one wanted to build/maintain unofficial KDE 3 packages for F9?
trouble? none
It would be a significant amount of work, but if someone was interested and
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike Bird wrote:
My loyalty is to keeping my systems secure and my users productive.
It's hard to believe that Red Hat would ship KDE 4.1 in F10, but
Konstantin Svist wrote:
It would be a significant amount of work, but if someone was interested
and willing to do something like that, more power to 'em.
Okay then, _how much_ work would someone need to put into this?
Would it need to be constantly maintained or would it mostly be a
Paul Johnson wrote:
Being a beta tester for RedHat is OK as a way of life
Well, to be closer to the truth s/RedHat/KDE/
It never came clear to me until I read Ann Wilson's post in this
thread: We should always remember that Fedora
does not set out to be the stable desktop required in most
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 14:29 -0500, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike Bird wrote:
My loyalty is to keeping my systems secure and my users productive.
It's hard to believe that Red Hat would ship KDE 4.1 in F10, but if
it
Craig White wrote:
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 14:29 -0500, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike Bird wrote:
My loyalty is to keeping my systems secure and my users productive.
It's hard to believe that Red Hat would ship KDE 4.1 in F10,
On Friday 20 June 2008 20:53:12 Rex Dieter wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
Being a beta tester for RedHat is OK as a way of life
Well, to be closer to the truth s/RedHat/KDE/
It never came clear to me until I read Ann Wilson's post in this
thread: We should always remember that Fedora
does
On Friday 20 June 2008 21:09:57 Craig White wrote:
My experience is that each Linux
distribution has its own strengths and weaknesses and that all Linux
users benefit from having options.
Precisely. I use CentOS where I need total stability, Mandriva where I want
ease for technophobics and
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 20 June 2008 21:09:57 Craig White wrote:
My experience is that each Linux
distribution has its own strengths and weaknesses and that all Linux
users benefit from having options.
Precisely. I use CentOS where I
Anne Wilson wrote:
Yes, definitely an over-statement, for which I apologise. All the same,
if we insist on using a bleeding edge distro it is to be expected that
things will
break from time to time. The truth is that it works most of the time, and
if we can't live with the rest, then
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 20 June 2008 21:09:57 Craig White wrote:
My experience is that each Linux
distribution has its own strengths and weaknesses and that all Linux
users benefit from having options.
Precisely. I use CentOS where I need total stability, Mandriva where I want
ease
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 18:09 -0400, David Boles wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 20 June 2008 21:09:57 Craig White wrote:
My experience is that each Linux
distribution has its own strengths and weaknesses and
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