On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Nifty Fedora Mitch
niftyfed...@niftyegg.com wrote:
Another external input is the mail message that Thunderbird is replying to.
In general a graphical email tool will transparently pick up the character set
of the message you reply to. Some HTML/XML/RichText
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 09:10:27 +0500,
gil...@altern.org wrote:
I took a look before writing my answer and the information I got is it's a
mean for people on the net or your ISP to take a look at the data on your
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 09:10:27 +0500,
gil...@altern.org wrote:
I took a look before writing my answer and the information I got is it's a
mean for people on the net or your ISP to take a look at the data on your
computer *before* it's encrypted.
Not on your computer, when it reaches the
On 10/09/2009 12:36 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 14:12:32 -0400,
Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak m...@avtechpulse.com wrote:
Anyway, it is unlikely that your ISP is messing with you (has such a
case ever been reported?), but it is technically possible.
I think what
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:34:59 -0700,
Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote:
On 10/09/2009 12:36 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
If you have residential cable or dsl from the local duopoly they
are quite likely to be messing with you. They may provide DNS with bogus
TTLs, send RST packets
Alan Cox wrote:
The question is as much can they ISP employees be trusted
Most of the tools assume not for anything critical
- Firewalls on PCs are user not ISP managed
- SSL uses digital signatures so that if your ISP or its staff try to
like about name to address mappings you get warned
-
On 10/09/2009 02:55 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote:
Paul wrote:
If you have adequate security, your ISP should have no better access to
your system/data than any other nefarious twerp on de intertubes.
Actually
even if you don't have security, your ISP has no better (or worse)
access
than
on LPF/eth0/00:24:1d:2e:11:88
Sep 30 13:19:25 localhost dhclient: Sending on Socket/fallback
Most ISPs can be trusted!
As I look at this thread history and your log I suspect but cannot fully verify
that
all you are seeing is a side effect of DHCP or Thunderbird.
Some users may may be seeing
On 10/08/2009 01:27 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote:
Most people trust their ISP, and rightly so, I suppose. But what if an
ISP
was a vilain? :) What kind of access would it have to its users'
computers? Isn't it the same as a client connected to a server? The
server
being root, it has full
Paul wrote:
If you have adequate security, your ISP should have no better access to
your system/data than any other nefarious twerp on de intertubes. Actually
even if you don't have security, your ISP has no better (or worse) access
than the twerp.
Then, I'm afraid Fedora's security is not
On 10/09/2009 02:55 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote:
Paul wrote:
If you have adequate security, your ISP should have no better access to
your system/data than any other nefarious twerp on de intertubes. Actually
even if you don't have security, your ISP has no better (or worse) access
than the
Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
On 10/09/2009 02:55 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote:
Paul wrote:
If you have adequate security, your ISP should have no better access to
your system/data than any other nefarious twerp on de intertubes.
Actually
even if you don't have security, your ISP has no
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 23:51:10 +0500,
gil...@altern.org wrote:
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
will help protect you from private doorbell type stuff.
What's private doorbell type stuff?
What's google.
The context in the original message should give you a pretty good idea
what's being
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 14:12:32 -0400,
Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak m...@avtechpulse.com wrote:
Anyway, it is unlikely that your ISP is messing with you (has such a
case ever been reported?), but it is technically possible.
I think what you mean is that your ISP is unlikely to be SPECIFICALLY
Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
ISPs could in theory run something like Wireshark to read your
unencrypted email. (Or they can slurp it all up and send it to the
NSA... read about the famous secret room lawsuits for more...) Since
they are in the routing path, they could conceivably even
Most people trust their ISP, and rightly so, I suppose. But what if an ISP
was a vilain? :) What kind of access would it have to its users'
computers? Isn't it the same as a client connected to a server? The server
being root, it has full access to the client.
Of course, the ISP doesn't have the
gil...@altern.org wrote:
Most people trust their ISP, and rightly so, I suppose. But what if an ISP
was a vilain? :) What kind of access would it have to its users'
computers? Isn't it the same as a client connected to a server? The server
being root, it has full access to the client.
Of
On 10/08/2009 01:27 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote:
Most people trust their ISP, and rightly so, I suppose. But what if an ISP
was a vilain? :) What kind of access would it have to its users'
computers? Isn't it the same as a client connected to a server? The server
being root, it has full access
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 00:27:13 +0500,
gil...@altern.org wrote:
Most people trust their ISP, and rightly so, I suppose. But what if an ISP
was a vilain? :) What kind of access would it have to its users'
computers? Isn't it the same as a client connected to a server? The server
being root,
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