Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-06 Thread Todd Zullinger
gil...@altern.org wrote: BTW, who owns this list? The list administrators are listed at the bottom of the listinfo page: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list (Full disclosure: I'm one of the volunteer admins. :) Another thing I'd like to fix until I use a Google mail address is

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 07:12:16 +0200, gil...@altern.org wrote: BTW, who owns this list? From the fedora-lists info page: fedora-list list run by stickster at gmail.com, chris at tylers.info, jonathan at jonmasters.org, tmz at pobox.com Another thing I'd like to fix until I use a Google

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
gil...@altern.org wrote: Tim: I use different clients for news and email and was planning to reply through Gmane. Since my replies, I suppose will be sent to this group, how come my replies won't get to your email client? Why would you have to pick them up at Gmane? I subscribed yesterday to

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list - especially for Tim.

2009-07-05 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 14:23 +0930, Tim wrote: The list owner could. But nobody else could. There are some advantages in being able to send private mail to anyone on the list, and there are disadvantages, as well. Seeing as I knew no-one on this list before I joined, and I see no reason

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-05 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 04:47 +0200, gil...@altern.org wrote: When I subscribed, I was asked for a user name. This user name appears nowhere, just my email address. It seems the user name is just a way to make you believe that your email won't be divulged. Since I don't sleep well at all these

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-05 Thread gilpel
What's the configuration to post here from Gmane? Oups, suddenly, I understand: you have to user your news client as an email client, which I never did. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-04 Thread Robert L Cochran
On 07/03/2009 11:01 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: gil...@altern.org wrote: If there's anybody here who's in charge of Fedora's mailing lists, I must say that the way you're dealing with susbscribers seems dishonest. Personally, I find the benefit I gain from using mailing lists far

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 04:47:49 +0200, gil...@altern.org wrote: If there's anybody here who's in charge of Fedora's mailing lists, I must say that the way you're dealing with susbscribers seems dishonest. When I subscribed, I was asked for a user name. This user name appears nowhere, just

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 19:42:36 -0700, Mick M. off_b...@yahoo.com wrote: With a Yahoo account I can have some stability, and ny friends can find me. I still use the 'classic' yahoo, they keep bugging me to upgrade. I just want plain old text email. Maybe you should send them some really

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-04 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 04:47 +0200, gil...@altern.org wrote: If there's anybody here who's in charge of Fedora's mailing lists, I must say that the way you're dealing with susbscribers seems dishonest. When I subscribed, I was asked for a user name. This user name appears nowhere, just my

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Not really a continuation of this thread (I didn't understand the OP's complaint), but I have a minor query about the mailing list. [Apologies if you think this is highjacking the thread.] I read the mailing list through gmane under knode, having set the mailing list to send me only digests.

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-04 Thread gilpel
On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 04:47 +0200, gil...@altern.org wrote: When I subscribed, I was asked for a user name. This user name appears nowhere, just my email address. It seems the user name is just a way to make you believe that your email won't be divulged. I don't know why you believe that.

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-04 Thread gilpel
I've been on this list for a long, long, long time now and the benefit far outweighs any small problems. I totally agree, but there's no obligation to have small problems either. The more people adopt Linux, the better. You know, most pople have never used mailing lists or ever read newsgroups,

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 14:49:56 +0100, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: But I'm wondering if there is any way of remaining on the list without getting either postings or digests? Yes you can do this. I don't know that exact details, but you can suspend email to yourself while

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 17:03:03 +0200, gil...@altern.org wrote: I no doubt am, but I can't still see what advantage tegre is to divulge the email address. People can reply directly to you without copying the whole list. Sorry for this, and for sometimes being impatient. But, having not

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 14:49 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: But I'm wondering if there is any way of remaining on the list without getting either postings or digests? Thius is a Mailman option. Log into the Mailman page and change your settings. poc -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-04 Thread Bill Davidsen
gil...@altern.org wrote: If there's anybody here who's in charge of Fedora's mailing lists, I must say that the way you're dealing with susbscribers seems dishonest. [...snip... summary: I don't know how mailing lists work...] I don't know what's the reason for this, but it doesn't

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-04 Thread Frank Murphy
Is this a feed me thread? Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-04 Thread Tim
Tim: The sign-up page [1] makes it clear the name is optional, so I can't see how an optional thing can be a vital part of your signing up. gil...@altern.org: Well, you could think that is you don't supply a name, your email address will be used to identify you. That page only mentions the

Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-03 Thread gilpel
If there's anybody here who's in charge of Fedora's mailing lists, I must say that the way you're dealing with susbscribers seems dishonest. When I subscribed, I was asked for a user name. This user name appears nowhere, just my email address. It seems the user name is just a way to make you

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-03 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 04:47 +0200, gil...@altern.org wrote: When I subscribed, I was asked for a user name. This user name appears nowhere, just my email address. It seems the user name is just a way to make you believe that your email won't be divulged. I don't know why you believe that. The

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-03 Thread Mick M.
What would make sense, is asking people to subscribe from an address that correspond to an ISP. Then you have not had the *pleasure* of changing ISP's. I use yahoo because it is *not* tied to an ISP. I have had AOL (win98 days), a couple that I forget (dot com days), Foxinternet, and

Re: Dealing with Fedora's mailing list

2009-07-03 Thread Todd Zullinger
gil...@altern.org wrote: If there's anybody here who's in charge of Fedora's mailing lists, I must say that the way you're dealing with susbscribers seems dishonest. If you need to reach the administrators of a Mailman mailing list directly, you add -owner to the listname, i.e. to reach those