On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Mauriat Miranda wrote:
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Robert P. J. Dayrpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:50:02 -0400 (EDT)
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
but what's their target market? if you can install chrome
On two different Fedora 10 x86_64 boxes (one
AMD and the other Intel based) both equipped with
Radeon X1650 Pro graphics cards, the radeon driver
has been a total nightmare. The fglrx drivers
(which we have been using in the past) no longer
are available for pre-HD radeon cards. The free
radeon
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:15:49 -0400
Jack Howarth wrote:
Google has its work cut
out for them if their OS is based on linux.
As near as I can tell from reading their blog, they aren't
actually planning an OS, they are just planning yet another
linux distro - this one containing only just enough
Don't hijack threads.
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On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:15:49 -0400
Jack Howarth wrote:
Google has its work cut out for them if their OS is based on
linux.
As near as I can tell from reading their blog, they aren't actually
planning an OS, they are just planning yet another linux
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:50:02 -0400 (EDT)
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
but what's their target market? if you can install chrome on any
other distro (you can, right?), how exactly do they plan on breaking
into the market, unless they go hard at getting onto netbooks?
That's the only target they
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:50:02 -0400 (EDT)
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
but what's their target market? if you can install chrome on
any other distro (you can, right?), how exactly do they plan on
breaking into the market, unless they go hard at getting
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Robert P. J. Dayrpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:50:02 -0400 (EDT)
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
but what's their target market? if you can install chrome on
any other distro (you can, right?), how
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
however, grabbing the src package and trying to build it also didn't
help, since the only supported arches in the spec file are ix86 and
arm. unless i'm reading it incorrectly. does an x86_64 build of
their browser exist for f11?
No. Their JavaScript interpreter is
I agree - I have had NO PROBLEM what-so-ever with on-board Intel video
OR non-HD Radeon cards.
My two-cents for the thread was for performance beyond what those
generations of graphics had to offer.
Joe Kazura
On Jun 24, 2009, at 6:04 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Tom Horsley wrote:
I'm guessing that you have (possibly) a configuration problem and/or
an issue with your particular motherboard vendor/model, etc.
send me (OFF LIST) the MB specs (make model, bios, etc) and your X
config file and I'll see what I can see ...
Joe Kazura
On Jun 24, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Joseph
john wendel wrote:
On 06/24/2009 03:04 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Tom Horsley wrote:
Certainly with the advent of the DRI2 utter and complete rewrite
of 3d support in the server, everyone is either giving up or
taking a long time to cath up (it is never clear which :-).
As near as I can tell,
On 6/26/09, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote:
This server on FC6 1450 fps w/ glxgears, on F11 ~220. Watching about this
Just as an aside: I'm not sure these numbers mean too much. I get
5000 fps with a low end nvidia card (7300 GT) and the proprietary
driver.
Andras
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On 6/26/2009 1:38 PM, Andras Simon wrote:
On 6/26/09, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote:
This server on FC6 1450 fps w/ glxgears, on F11 ~220. Watching about this
Just as an aside: I'm not sure these numbers mean too much. I get
5000 fps with a low end nvidia card (7300 GT) and the
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 19:38 +0200, Andras Simon wrote:
Just as an aside: I'm not sure these numbers mean too much. I get
5000 fps with a low end nvidia card (7300 GT) and the proprietary
driver.
Now show us a video card that actually outputs that many frames per
second. Likewise for a
Tom Horsley wrote:
Certainly with the advent of the DRI2 utter and complete rewrite
of 3d support in the server, everyone is either giving up or
taking a long time to cath up (it is never clear which :-).
As near as I can tell, the only option for getting even a little
above par 3d at the
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:04:34 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
This is bullshit. Intel integrated graphics (except the GMA 500) just work.
Non-HD Radeons just work too.
Just work in the sense that apps like neverputt are slow and jerky
and use 99% of the cpu (with the radeon driver anyway) compared to
This is bullshit. Intel integrated graphics (except the GMA 500) just work.
Non-HD Radeons just work too.
Huh...
I have plenty Intel only systems, G35 and G45 systems and after a looong
hopeful wait for them to just work I am considering switching distro's.
Problem is I like RH based distros and
On 06/24/2009 03:04 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Tom Horsley wrote:
Certainly with the advent of the DRI2 utter and complete rewrite
of 3d support in the server, everyone is either giving up or
taking a long time to cath up (it is never clear which :-).
As near as I can tell, the only option for
Actually, your post is bullshit. Have you ever tried playing HD video on
an Intel chipset? It just works if your definition of works is looks
like glitchy shit.
Works for me. I could believe it would struggle on the older
processor/memory setups where they probably don't have enough
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:
Actually, your post is bullshit. Have you ever tried playing HD video on
an Intel chipset? It just works if your definition of works is looks
like glitchy shit.
Works for me. I could believe it would struggle on the
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 07:14 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:04:34 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
This is bullshit. Intel integrated graphics (except the GMA 500) just work.
Non-HD Radeons just work too.
Just work in the sense that apps like neverputt are slow and jerky
and
Actually, your post is bullshit. Have you ever tried playing HD video on
an Intel chipset? It just works if your definition of works is looks
like glitchy shit.
Works for me. I could believe it would struggle on the older
processor/memory setups where they probably don't have enough bandwidth
On Jun 10, 2009, at 6:50 AM, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
Hi,
If you can part with around $40 US, you can find nVidia Quadro FX
2000 cards
that will knock your socks off (yes, OVERKILL).
Depends, just because its called Quadro doesn't mean its fast.
Some of my collagues have Quadros which are
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:20:24 -0400
Joe Kazura wrote:
I has been my documentable experience that Radeon cards lag behind
nVidia cards on Fedora
Certainly with the advent of the DRI2 utter and complete rewrite
of 3d support in the server, everyone is either giving up or
taking a long time to
Hi,
If you can part with around $40 US, you can find nVidia Quadro FX 2000 cards
that will knock your socks off (yes, OVERKILL).
Depends, just because its called Quadro doesn't mean its fast.
Some of my collagues have Quadros which are identical to Geforce-6200,
barely capable of playing any
Joe Kazura wrote:
I'd suggest searching eBay for nVidia AGP cards ... base your decision
on how much you want to pay.
If you can part with around $40 US, you can find nVidia Quadro FX 2000
cards that will knock your socks off (yes, OVERKILL).
Bad recommendation. The OP wants cards which
Kevin Kofler wrote:
If you can part with around $40 US, you can find nVidia Quadro FX 2000
cards that will knock your socks off (yes, OVERKILL).
Bad recommendation. The OP wants cards which just work in Fedora. NVidia
is the exact opposite. Don't buy NVidia!
Actually, some kind soul (in
I'm wondering if I install the card I've been given in the AGP slot,
can I disable the built-in card, (a) in Linux, and (b) in Windows?
I guess I'd better ask about (b) elsewhere!
The priority is usually set in the BIOS, although some boxes simply
disable onboard video if an AGP card is
Timothy Murphy wrote:
Kevin Kofler wrote:
If you can part with around $40 US, you can find nVidia Quadro FX 2000
cards that will knock your socks off (yes, OVERKILL).
Bad recommendation. The OP wants cards which just work in Fedora. NVidia
is the exact opposite. Don't buy NVidia!
Actually,
Timothy Murphy-5 wrote:
Thanks very much for this useful summary.
As you said in another posting,
I'm perfectly happy with any graphics that actually works,
the problem lies with the younger generation
who have higher expectations.
I have in the past 6 months bought two
2009/6/2 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at:
Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
There are cheap models in both Nvidia's and AMD/Ati's product ranges.
But don't buy NVidia! Proprietary drivers only cause problems.
3. Works under Fedora-10, if possible as is.
I'd go with a AMD/Ati card due to AMD's
I'm looking for a graphics card satisfying the following criteria:
1. Cheap
2. TL capability
3. Works under Fedora-10, if possible as is.
[This is for a desktop with an Asus K8V-MX motherboard.
I need the TL feature for my grand-daughter to play Sims-2
under Windows XP.]
Any and all
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:03 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
2. TL capability
Nope, sorry, I can't figure out what this means.
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2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:
TL capability
Texture and Lighting capability.
While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly
generic you can't run this game because... error which has been
pasted verbatim.
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:19 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:
TL capability
Texture and Lighting capability.
While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly
generic you can't run this game because... error which has been
2009/6/1 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net:
I'm looking for a graphics card satisfying the following criteria:
1. Cheap
There are cheap models in both Nvidia's and AMD/Ati's product ranges.
2. TL capability
I'm not sure, but probably almost all graphics cards currently
available will have
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:19 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:
TL capability
Texture and Lighting capability.
While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly
generic you can't run this game
Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
I'm looking for a graphics card satisfying the following criteria:
1. Cheap
There are cheap models in both Nvidia's and AMD/Ati's product ranges.
2. TL capability
I'm not sure, but probably almost all graphics cards currently
available will have this, and be
Actually I only want it to work in graphics mode,
my needs are minimal.
In which case you are probably ok with the typical onboard video (for
most boards). Even though the Nvidia reverse engineered 2D driver has no
3D support and is a bit patchy for render and fancy effects but quite
solid
Timothy Murphy wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:19 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:
TL capability
Texture and Lighting capability.
While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly
generic you can't run
Alan Cox wrote:
In which case you are probably ok with the typical onboard video (for
most boards).
The onboard video is probably what he's using now and isn't powerful enough
for his granddaughter's Winblow$ games. (The motherboard he cites has VIA
Unichrome onboard graphics.)
Kevin
On Monday 01 June 2009 07:03:21 am Timothy Murphy wrote:
I'm looking for a graphics card satisfying the following criteria:
1. Cheap
2. TL capability
3. Works under Fedora-10, if possible as is.
[This is for a desktop with an Asus K8V-MX motherboard.
I need the TL feature for my
Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
There are cheap models in both Nvidia's and AMD/Ati's product ranges.
But don't buy NVidia! Proprietary drivers only cause problems.
3. Works under Fedora-10, if possible as is.
I'd go with a AMD/Ati card due to AMD's effort to bring quality open
source drivers to the
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
There are cheap models in both Nvidia's and AMD/Ati's product ranges.
But don't buy NVidia! Proprietary drivers only cause problems.
Only for some people
I've said it beforeand I'll say it again
I've been using the nVidia
Kevin Kofler wrote:
The right choice is to pick one of the older ATI models (up to X1950),
see:
http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon
All except the r100 (Radeon 7000/VE) series have texturing, clipping and
lighting (TCL) support.
Also note that the cited Asus K8V-MX motherboard has
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 01:21:30 +0200,
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
A Radeon 9250 might end up being the best choice, it's not the most powerful
graphics card out there, but it's cheap, it does have a TCL engine and 3D
acceleration just works.
I think you are likely to get
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