Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Cloaked
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Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Aioanei Rares
On 11/02/2009 03:52 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Mikkelmik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: Oh, oh! I had a USB keyboard when I installed but I now have a keyboard with a

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Cloaked
Aioanei Rares schaiba at gmail.com writes: Less likely, better check your /var/log/messages file for something related. Well I just switched off the machine in question and booted from a cold start. The problem that was there consistently in the past seems to have gone away. The mouse now

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Aioanei Rares
On 11/02/2009 05:53 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote: Aioanei Raresschaibaat gmail.com writes: Less likely, better check your /var/log/messages file for something related. Well I just switched off the machine in question and booted from a cold start. The problem that was there consistently

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Cloaked
Aioanei Rares schaiba at gmail.com writes: It is often a good idea to reboot after important updates... Of course and indeed I HAD rebooted after each set of updates - the difference is that if you power off and reboot then there is hardware resetting that is different to rebooting but

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Aioanei Rares
On 11/02/2009 06:13 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote: Aioanei Raresschaibaat gmail.com writes: It is often a good idea to reboot after important updates... Of course and indeed I HAD rebooted after each set of updates - the difference is that if you power off and reboot then there is

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Cloaked
Aioanei Rares schaiba at gmail.com writes: Please explain what do you mean by 'different effect' and how is the hw reset by rebooting vs cold boot OK - when I first came across this problem - it was when I shutdown the machine i.e. to the point where the machine was powered off. a) then

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Mikkel
Aioanei Rares wrote: Please explain what do you mean by 'different effect' and how is the hw reset by rebooting vs cold boot Depending on the hardware, it may retaining settings during a reboot, but not when you power off the machine, and then power it up again. This can sometimes cause

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Cloaked
Mikkel mikkel at infinity-ltd.com writes: Depending on the hardware, it may retaining settings during a reboot, but not when you power off the machine, and then power it up again. This can sometimes cause strange problems. This is especially true when booting a different operating system with

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-02 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 16:29 +, Mike Cloaked wrote: Aioanei Rares schaiba at gmail.com writes: Please explain what do you mean by 'different effect' and how is the hw reset by rebooting vs cold boot OK - when I first came across this problem - it was when I shutdown the

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-01 Thread Mikkel
Marcel Rieux wrote: Oh, oh! I had a USB keyboard when I installed but I now have a keyboard with a round plug. So, I tried to enable legacy support as Mikkel suggested, but I can't access the BIOS. You do not need legacy support for the PS2 keyboard. (The round plug.) Legacy support makes a

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 19:01 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: I try to access the boot menu, where you can choose a kernel and, whatever key I press, I can't stop the countdown and access the boot menu. I checked /boot/grub/grub.conf and I have hiddenmenu in it. But the back-up,

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-01 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: Oh, oh! I had a USB keyboard when I installed but I now have a keyboard with a round plug. So, I tried to enable legacy support as Mikkel suggested, but I can't access the BIOS. You do not need legacy

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-01 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: What is the value of timeout in grub.conf? Arrrgh! 10 sec. If I can see the countdown, it's because it's long enough. There's always at least 4-5 sec. left on the counter when it appears. -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-01 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: What is the value of timeout in grub.conf? Arrrgh! 10 sec. If I can see the countdown, it's because it's long enough. There's always at least

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-01 Thread Marcel Rieux
And, if I may add, if I can't access the boot menu, it can't have much to do with Fedora. I meant if I can't access the BIOS. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-11-01 Thread Mikkel
Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: Oh, oh! I had a USB keyboard when I installed but I now have a keyboard with a round plug. So, I tried to enable legacy support as Mikkel suggested, but I can't access the BIOS. You

Impossible to access boot menu

2009-10-31 Thread Marcel Rieux
I try to access the boot menu, where you can choose a kernel and, whatever key I press, I can't stop the countdown and access the boot menu. I checked /boot/grub/grub.conf and I have hiddenmenu in it. But the back-up, /boot/grub/grub.conf~ dates back to August and has hiddenmenu in it too. Since

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-10-31 Thread Ed Greshko
Marcel Rieux wrote: I try to access the boot menu, where you can choose a kernel and, whatever key I press, I can't stop the countdown and access the boot menu. I checked /boot/grub/grub.conf and I have hiddenmenu in it. But the back-up, /boot/grub/grub.conf~ dates back to August and has

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-10-31 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: I try to access the boot menu, where you can choose a kernel and, whatever key I press, I can't stop the countdown and access the boot menu. The timeout=0 starts the boot process without delay.  

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-10-31 Thread Ed Greshko
Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: I try to access the boot menu, where you can choose a kernel and, whatever key I press, I can't stop the countdown and access the boot menu. The

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-10-31 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Saturday 31 October 2009 05:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Ed Greshkoed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: I try to access the boot menu, where you can choose a kernel and, whatever key I press, I can't stop the countdown and

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-10-31 Thread Mikkel
Marcel Rieux wrote: I try to access the boot menu, where you can choose a kernel and, whatever key I press, I can't stop the countdown and access the boot menu. I checked /boot/grub/grub.conf and I have hiddenmenu in it. But the back-up, /boot/grub/grub.conf~ dates back to August and has

Re: Impossible to access boot menu

2009-10-31 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: Also an answer to Suvayu Ali and Mikkel. Do you have a USB keyboard? Oh, oh! I had a USB keyboard