Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-25 Thread Les
CLIP!! I hope no one objects to strenuously to my resurrecting this thread for one more thought. Sometimes I have to think things through quite a bit before I get the viewpoint settled and feel like it is worth expressing. Formal training is a somewhat new phenomenon in human

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-22 Thread Tim
Tim: That was the title to a program on our (Australian) ABC, Classic FM station: http://www.abc.net.au/classic/keys/ William Case: Found the above radio program. For some reason the volume is coming extremely faintly through RhythmBox. I don't need help yet. I am not done fiddling.

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-21 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:01:41 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; Can anyone recommend a program to download from Fedora repo / any Linux repo / or the world that teaches Music Appreciation? I have something in mind like 'Rosette Stone' but for music. Something that really starts with the

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-21 Thread Tim
Tim: Yes, there's a lot of talented people without formal training. But I tend to be more impressed by those with it. And they're certainly more able to work with other trained musicians, as they know how tell each other what needs doing. More, um, thingy, doesn't work too well. Les: So

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-21 Thread Tim
Tim: Just imagine how much better they could have been! ;-) Sorry, couldn't resist. Craig White: I know you were sort of joking here but I also cannot resist because I seriously doubt whether any classical education would have made them better and in fact, it might have restricted their

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-21 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 00:12 +0930, Tim wrote: If I were playing it, I could probably tell you what key it was in, because I'd know what notes and chords I'd been playing, and would know what key those notes fitted into. Probably in that my training was as intense as those with real formal

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-21 Thread William Case
Hi Tim; The thread has turned a bit OT. That's OK by me. It lets me get a few things about music off my chest. On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 04:38 +0930, Tim wrote: Tim: That was the title to a program on our (Australian) ABC, Classic FM station: http://www.abc.net.au/classic/keys/ Found the

Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-20 Thread William Case
Hi; Can anyone recommend a program to download from Fedora repo / any Linux repo / or the world that teaches Music Appreciation? I have something in mind like 'Rosette Stone' but for music. Something that really starts with the basics and works up. I am think that maybe after 65 years, I

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-20 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 09:01 -0400, William Case wrote: Can anyone recommend a program to download from Fedora repo / any Linux repo / or the world that teaches Music Appreciation? I have something in mind like 'Rosette Stone' but for music. Something that really starts with the basics and

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-20 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 09:01 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; Can anyone recommend a program to download from Fedora repo / any Linux repo / or the world that teaches Music Appreciation? I have something in mind like 'Rosette Stone' but for music. Something that really starts with the

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-20 Thread William Case
Hi Aaron; On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 09:04 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 09:01 -0400, William Case wrote: If you want a way out solution install Sugar Development Environment using yum group install. It is not that 'way out'. I have been an interested bystander watching the

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-20 Thread William Case
Hi Tim; On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 23:29 +0930, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 09:01 -0400, William Case wrote: Can anyone recommend a program to download from Fedora repo / any Linux repo / or the world that teaches Music Appreciation? I have something in mind like 'Rosette Stone' but

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-20 Thread Tim
Tim: You started off with a question that sounded like it was to do with listening to music (to which my best suggestion would be an old fashioned radio station with a Keys to music style of program), William Case: I have never heard of a keys to music style of program. Where would I find

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-20 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 04:38 +0930, Tim wrote: That was the title to a program on our (Australian) ABC, Classic FM station: http://www.abc.net.au/classic/keys/ Though classical music isn't always to the taste of everybody, but the principles behind it are the underpinning of all other music

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-20 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 12:36 -0700, Craig White wrote: seriously, there are all sorts of trained and untrained musicians but whether a musician has knowledge or education in classical music is not necessarily important. The Beatles never knew how to read music. Just imagine how much better they

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-20 Thread Les
On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 05:48 +0930, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 12:36 -0700, Craig White wrote: seriously, there are all sorts of trained and untrained musicians but whether a musician has knowledge or education in classical music is not necessarily important. The Beatles never knew how

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-20 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 05:48 +0930, Tim wrote: seriously, there are all sorts of trained and untrained musicians but whether a musician has knowledge or education in classical music is not necessarily important. The Beatles never knew how to read music. Just imagine how much better they

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 05:48 +0930, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 12:36 -0700, Craig White wrote: seriously, there are all sorts of trained and untrained musicians but whether a musician has knowledge or education in classical music is not necessarily important. The Beatles never knew

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-20 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 11:10 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi Aaron; On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 09:04 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 09:01 -0400, William Case wrote: If you want a way out solution install Sugar Development Environment using yum group install. It is not

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-20 Thread Aaron Konstam
The very thought of me trying to learn to play music would frighten my friends and neighbours and send the dog running from the house in sheer panic. No, what I was looking for was something in the way of music appreciation. I was trying to indicate I wanted something that would let me

Re: Music Appreciation teaching program ??

2009-09-20 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:32:17 +0200 Andras Simon wrote: On 9/21/09, Aaron Konstam akonstam sbcglobal net wrote: As you seem to have figured out Sugar is a Window Manager just like Gnome and KDE are. Once it is the Window manager it takes over the I don't know about Sugar, but Gnome and