LOL - One would think, but it's not 'good enough' according to our
University's Security Czar!
On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:05 PM, Markus Kesaromous wrote:
Would using a powerful magnet also work?? :)
From: ehem...@townisp.com
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 22:58:05 -0400
Beartooth wrote:
I have it on excellent authority that a .45 acp won't make a hole
clear through a hard drive, but that a .30-06 will.
factory .45 acp may not. custom .45 acp can.
.357 mag good for spindle motor.
rem 720 .306 can at 600 yds. .25c print @ 100 yds
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peace out.
tc,hago.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 16:49:03 -0400,
Robert L Cochran cochr...@speakeasy.net wrote:
Thanks to all who answered. I'm anxious to try out Alan's security
erase suggestion on a much newer drive. It appears to be a lot less
labor intensive.
If you are really worried about this, set up
Rick Stevens wrote:
Henrik Schmiediche wrote:
Check out:
http://www.dban.org
- Henrik
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On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 10:38 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
There was a challenge put out to recover data that was erased with dd
but no takers. The comment that I read on the web site pointed to a
phone call that dd makes it to costly to recover.
The title says it all:
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 22:58 -0400, Erik Hemdal wrote:
I know that there are a number of commercial services that offer to
destroy disks, recycle what can be recovered, and provide you evidence
of observed destruction, although I don't have much experience with
them.
To really believe that,
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.netwrote:
Robert L Cochran wrote:
I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the most
dependable way to do this? Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or ext4 or
some other filesystem effectively destroy
Check out:
http://www.dban.org
- Henrik
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Subject: Re: OT: Can
Henrik Schmiediche wrote:
Check out:
http://www.dban.org
- Henrik
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On Behalf Of Fernando Cassia
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To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
I'm surprised this thread was reawakened...makes me wonder what sort of
child I created here!
I first used Alan's suggestion about checking for, and if possible,
using the security erase feature of a security-erase enabled hard drive.
This drive was too old to have such a feature. I checked
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Robert L Cochrancochr...@speakeasy.net wrote:
I'm surprised this thread was reawakened...makes me wonder what sort of
child I created here!
I first used Alan's suggestion about checking for, and if possible, using
the security erase feature of a security-erase
Tim wrote:
Tim:
But do you know what the drive does when you use that function? ;-\
Bruno Wolff III:
Reading the drive back in should give you a good idea. If that isn't enough
of a check for you then you should just be destroying the drive.
While that would tell you that *you*
Robert L Cochran wrote:
I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the most
dependable way to do this? Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or ext4 or
some other filesystem effectively destroy the existing data?
Is there free software that can write zeroes or some form of
Robert L Cochran wrote:
I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the most
dependable way to do this? Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or ext4 or
some other filesystem effectively destroy the existing data?
Is there free software that can write zeroes or some form of
Would using a powerful magnet also work?? :)
From: ehem...@townisp.com
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 22:58:05 -0400
Subject: Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data
On It?
Robert L Cochran wrote:
I have a hard drive that I need to
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 01:58:27AM -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
On 05/30/2009 04:49 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
How do you access the security erase facility?
All kidding aside, there's a web site from which you can download a
little DOS utility to invoke security erase on a drive. The
On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 12:52 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
I like to put the drives on a sidewalk and whack them a few times with
an 8 lb sledge hammer. When I pick up the drive and shake it and it
makes a nice jingling sound, the job is done.
Wouldn't you love to see someone doing that out the
Tim:
But do you know what the drive does when you use that function? ;-\
Bruno Wolff III:
Reading the drive back in should give you a good idea. If that isn't enough
of a check for you then you should just be destroying the drive.
While that would tell you that *you* couldn't read your own
On 05/29/2009 09:46 PM, Robert L Cochran wrote:
On 05/29/2009 05:44 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default).
Doing something like
shred /dev/sdX
as root will write various bit patterns 25 times over the entire drive
(see the man page for more options).
On 05/30/2009 04:49 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
How do you access the security erase facility?
All kidding aside, there's a web site from which you can download a
little DOS utility to invoke security erase on a drive. The README
claims that security erase is better than smashing the drive to
Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/5/30 Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com:
Rick Stevens wrote:
I generally take the drives out to the desert and use /sbin/detonate.
As Jamie Hyneman once said on Mythbusters...
When in doubtC4!
Can I come with the next time you take one out? They
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On 05/29/2009 10:08 AM, Robin Laing wrote:
Robert L Cochran wrote:
I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the
most dependable way to do this? Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or
ext4 or some other filesystem effectively
Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com writes:
This should probably be taken to another list... But I can not
resist one last comment - low explosives like McVeigh was reported
to have used would probably send the drive flying, rather then
destroying it directly. A shaped charge from C4
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Ambrogio fn050...@interfree.it wrote:
Il giorno ven, 29/05/2009 alle 14.52 +1200, Clint Dilks ha scritto:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/youbettergetthisright bs=1M
If you want to be really sure you need to do the command above several
time or use software like
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 13:31 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
It makes no real difference - use the drives own secure erase feature if
you want to be sure, otherwise you've got no guarantee that everything
will be cleared - only the drive knows enough to do the job.
But do you know what the drive does
Alan Cox wrote:
Use security erase, that is why it is there.
How do you access the security erase facility?
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View this message in context:
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On 05/30/2009 04:49 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
Alan Cox wrote:
Use security erase, that is why it is there.
How do you access the security erase facility?
From `man hdparm`:
--security-erase PWD
Erase (locked) drive, using password PWD (DANGEROUS). Password is given
as an
On Fri, 29 May 2009 16:57:09 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Rick Stevens wrote:
I generally take the drives out to the desert and use /sbin/detonate.
As Jamie Hyneman once said on Mythbusters...
When in doubtC4!
Can I come with the next time you take one
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 18:16:00 +0930,
Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 13:31 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
It makes no real difference - use the drives own secure erase feature if
you want to be sure, otherwise you've got no guarantee that everything
will be
On Thu, 28 May 2009 22:29:23 -0400
Robert L Cochran cochr...@speakeasy.net wrote:
I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the most
dependable way to do this?
Thermite ?
Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or ext4 or
some other filesystem effectively destroy the
Il giorno ven, 29/05/2009 alle 14.52 +1200, Clint Dilks ha scritto:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/youbettergetthisright bs=1M
If you want to be really sure you need to do the command above several
time or use software like
http://www.dban.org/
/dev/zero is not the right device to use.
Better
Robert L Cochran wrote:
I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the most
dependable way to do this? Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or ext4 or
some other filesystem effectively destroy the existing data?
Is there free software that can write zeroes or some form of
/dev/zero is not the right device to use.
Better is /dev/random or /dev/urandom
But they are not speed
It makes no real difference - use the drives own secure erase feature if
you want to be sure, otherwise you've got no guarantee that everything
will be cleared - only the drive knows enough
On Thu, 28 May 2009 22:29:23 -0400
Robert L Cochran cochr...@speakeasy.net wrote:
I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the
most dependable way to do this? Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or
ext4 or some other filesystem effectively destroy the existing data?
Is
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 21:51:57 +0200,
Srdan Tosovic t...@prip.tuwien.ac.at wrote:
as root will write various bit patterns 25 times over the entire drive
(see the man page for more options).
If recovery after one pass of rewriting a disk is a credible threat you
should be physically
'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default).
Doing something like
shred /dev/sdX
as root will write various bit patterns 25 times over the entire drive
(see the man page for more options).
Whoopeeedoo. Thats still not the correct way to erase a disk.
Use security erase,
2009/5/29 Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk:
'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default).
Doing something like
shred /dev/sdX
as root will write various bit patterns 25 times over the entire drive
(see the man page for more options).
Whoopeeedoo. Thats still not the correct
Quoting Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com:
2009/5/29 Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk:
'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default).
Doing something like
shred /dev/sdX
as root will write various bit patterns 25 times over the entire drive
(see the man page for more
2009/5/29 Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org:
Quoting Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com:
2009/5/29 Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk:
'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default).
Doing something like
shred /dev/sdX
as root will write various bit
Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/5/29 Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org:
Quoting Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com:
2009/5/29 Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk:
'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default).
Doing something like
shred /dev/sdX
as root will write
Rick Stevens wrote:
I generally take the drives out to the desert and use /sbin/detonate.
As Jamie Hyneman once said on Mythbusters...
When in doubtC4!
Can I come with the next time you take one out? They will not let me
play with C4 any more. :(
Mike
--
Washington DC’s low
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 23:37 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/5/29 Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org:
Quoting Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com:
2009/5/29 Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk:
'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default).
Doing
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Rick Stevens wrote:
I generally take the drives out to the desert and use /sbin/detonate.
As Jamie Hyneman once said on Mythbusters...
When in doubtC4!
Can I come with the next time you take one out? They will not let me
play with C4 any more. :(
Well,
2009/5/30 Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com:
Rick Stevens wrote:
I generally take the drives out to the desert and use /sbin/detonate.
As Jamie Hyneman once said on Mythbusters...
When in doubtC4!
Can I come with the next time you take one out? They will not let me
play
2009/5/30 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 23:37 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/5/29 Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org:
Quoting Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com:
2009/5/29 Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk:
'shred' is part of
On 05/29/2009 05:44 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default).
Doing something like
shred /dev/sdX
as root will write various bit patterns 25 times over the entire drive
(see the man page for more options).
Whoopeeedoo. Thats still not the correct way
is 'ha ha' because of suggestions, or aluminum rusting?
I think the idea of dropping a hard drive in brine is funny. Hence the
ha ha!
if you have no need for drive and wish to insure removing all data,
take drive apart, remove disk and burn oxide coating with a torch.
or use lighter
I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the most
dependable way to do this? Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or ext4 or
some other filesystem effectively destroy the existing data?
Is there free software that can write zeroes or some form of nonsense to
every storage
Robert L Cochran writes:
I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the most
dependable way to do this? Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or ext4 or
some other filesystem effectively destroy the existing data?
Is there free software that can write zeroes or some form of
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Robert L Cochran
cochr...@speakeasy.net wrote:
I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the most
dependable way to do this? Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or ext4 or
some other filesystem effectively destroy the existing data?
Is
Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Robert L Cochran writes:
I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the
most dependable way to do this? Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or
ext4 or some other filesystem effectively destroy the existing data?
Is there free software that can
On Thursday 28 May 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:
I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the most
dependable way to do this? Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or ext4 or
some other filesystem effectively destroy the existing data?
Is there free software that can write
Bob
I have used this utility before with good success
http://www.soft32.com/download_191651.html
I have used this one with greater success
http://www.killdisk.com/?gclid=CKatoNLX4JoCFQENDQodO0xTAQ
both are free utilities
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