Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-22 Thread Deron Meranda
An update on this problem: First, I'm up to date on the latest kernel and X window packages. Again, I'm using the standard Fedora Radeon driver with all the default options. I'm also using the standard Gnome interface. Here's the strange thing I'm seeing. I don't know if this is just

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-08 Thread Thomas Kappelmueller
Hello! I completely solved this problem by doing this: yum install xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd and changing the /etx/X11/xorg.conf file: From: Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver radeon EndSection To: Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-02 Thread Steve Dowe
Steve Dowe wrote: I think I have the answer (below). ... Option AccelMethod EXA Well, it was a nice theory while it lasted, but unfortunately it didn't last that long. I had another hang this morning when moving a Windows window (in a RDP window connected to a MS box). I'll keep

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-02 Thread Steve Dowe
... Option AccelMethod EXA Well, it was a nice theory while it lasted, but unfortunately it didn't last that long. I had another hang this morning when moving a Windows window (in a RDP window connected to a MS box). I'll keep working on it! Same section, but using Option DRI off

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-01 Thread Steve Dowe
I have this problem too. Deron Meranda wrote: Okay, so Xorg ran away last night ... snip it should have been a completely idle unused system. Anyway, concerning the Xorg driver module, this is a brand new install of F9 (not an upgrade). All the software is part of the base F9 repo; nothing

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-01 Thread Steve Dowe
The cause of this problem on my system seems to be when dragging (resizing) a window. X then seems to hang, the pointer gets jumpy I should also have added that the mouse cursor image sticks to the diagonal arrow - it doesn't become the normal arrow/pointer again. I have just booted up in

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-07-01 Thread Steve Dowe
Deron Meranda wrote: Steve, your observed Xorg behavior certainly sounds very much like mine. It is quite frustrating. It certainly is - I normally have to hard reset my machine once or twice a day, on average. Sounds like you do at least this? I've been trying to minimize my use of

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-26 Thread Deron Meranda
Okay, so Xorg ran away last night while the system was totally idle and not being used at all. So I guess the scrollbar theory could be suspect. There was a screensaver running (just the cosmos image slideshow, no moving graphics); and I left firefox up, which had a gmail window running so it

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 16:21 -0400, Deron Meranda wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: O I wonder if LUKS + swap might be the first suspect I'm going to try to resize things and get my swap back up to 32 GB. A little tricky due to LUKS being in the mix,

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread Deron Meranda
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Aaron Konstam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running with almost 14GB of swap space... Runnin with 14GB of swap semms an obscene waste of space. When you run free how much of it is actually used? Yes, for this machine its overkill, but I don't mind. But I also

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread Deron Meranda
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once you've done that run it for a bit and see if it seems to be gradually eating through swap. The overcommit test will probably work sanely as well with 1GB+ of swap 8) Bad news. The system is still periodically hanging.

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread g
Deron Meranda wrote: snip the Xorg process (gdb would hang). And also the Xorg process was not killable. Finally I tried kill -KILL on it, and it sort of got half-killed. use 'ps -el|grep X' to find 'X', Xorg process, then kill -15 'pid#' to kill it. if '-15' fails, use '-7'. -- tc,hago.

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread Deron Meranda
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:55 PM, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deron Meranda wrote: snip the Xorg process (gdb would hang). And also the Xorg process was not killable. Finally I tried kill -KILL on it, and it sort of got half-killed. use 'ps -el|grep X' to find 'X', Xorg process, then

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread g
Deron Meranda wrote: kill -15 'pid#' to kill it. if '-15' fails, use '-7'. I did the ps thing. Only one Xorg process was running. should be just 1. I also tried kills in the following order: kill -TERM (-15) kill -SEGV (-11) kill -KILL (-9) this is not same as what i was

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread Deron Meranda
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also tried kills in the following order: kill -TERM (-15) kill -SEGV (-11) kill -KILL (-9) this is not same as what i was showing you above. use numbers, not words. type it as kill -15 'pid#' and use '-7' if '-15' does not

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-25 Thread g
Deron Meranda wrote: snip No, there's no difference. These are all equivalent (on Linux): kill -15 pid kill -TERM pid kill -s 15 pid kill -s TERM pid i am old unix head and have always used numbers. never tried names, or numbers less than '-7' or great than '-15'. i just did a quick

Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-24 Thread Deron Meranda
I have reinstalled Fedora 9 (not an upgrade) onto a system that used to run F7 fine (except for a new video card, see below). Now I am seeing intermittent system hangs or lockups; probably about 2 or 3 per day. This happens most often if I'm scrolling a page in Firefox with the mouse wheel, but

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-24 Thread Alan Cox
When the system hangs, the mouse cursor will continue to move, but it is very jumpy and sluggish. But otherwise the system is completely unresponsive (not just slow). That sounds like it suddenly ran out of memory. Try echo 2 /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory echo 80

Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

2008-06-24 Thread Alan Cox
O I wonder if LUKS + swap might be the first suspect Well, I looked a little closer and it may be my fault. The LVM I have swap in was only 32 MB in size, not the 32 GB I had intended! So my swap is way smaller than my physical memory. Would that excessively small swap space size had