On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 00:39 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
Russell,
I've got a K9A Platinum. I've had sound working from day one, with a
better set of drivers and a better mixer. The difference is that I went
to
http://www.4front-tech.com/download.cgi
And downloaded the
On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 18:38 -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 14:35 -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
May be time to change my choice of OS, or just to keep
using it
and start bitching, because that seems to be what you
2008/8/10 Russell Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
454127
And it was closer to a month ago than two months. My bad. Still a long
time though.
What the specfile does goes against existing guidance. If you want
static libs then the package should provide a -static subpackage. For
example look at
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Tom spot Callaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 18:43 -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
What gets me is that it's an integrated soundchip. Usually those are
pretty well supported, at least in basics.
Out of curiousity, what soundchip is it? What
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Russell Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Tom spot Callaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 18:43 -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
What gets me is that it's an integrated soundchip. Usually those are
pretty well
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 20:44 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
I saw a message go past not too long ago about making
fedora 10 the best ever. If anyone has any desire to
cater to reactionary stick-in-the-mud users like me who hate
almost everything new, then take a look at:
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Arthur Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This seems like very poor behavior, I hope you report it.
Oh, you want bugzilla entries? I can do bugzilla entries.
BTW, the problem *is* with pulseaudio. Alsa is working just fine
underneath, but guess what?
This seems like very poor behavior, I hope you report it.
Bug 458574 submitted. Let's see what happens.
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On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Russell Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Tom spot Callaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 18:43 -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
What gets me is that it's an integrated soundchip. Usually those are
pretty well
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:34:01 -0700
Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hope that you recognize that unless you submit bugzilla entries for
those things, they are unlikely to be fixed.
Oh, I got lots of bugzilla entries for all those and more.
(Including bugs like 447442 which claims to be
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:11:57 -0500
Arthur Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here, I think a compromise is necessary. If you're running a server, I
think you're competent enough to turn of NetworkManager (it was really
crappy a few versions ago). While I think there needs to be away to
have a
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 23:01 -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Tom spot Callaway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 18:43 -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
What gets me is that it's an integrated soundchip. Usually
those are
On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 07:24 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:11:57 -0500
Arthur Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here, I think a compromise is necessary. If you're running a server, I
think you're competent enough to turn of NetworkManager (it was really
crappy a few
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Russell,
I've got a K9A Platinum. I've had sound working from day one, with a
better set of drivers and a better mixer. The difference is that I went
to
After I fixed that wonderful permissions problem it almost all
After I fixed that wonderful permissions problem it almost all started
working. I can't get youtube videos to work for some reason, and the USB
audio adapter I just bought refuses to output stuff, but the azalia is
working.
But then I tried to install the proprietary ATI driver (because
I really shudder to think of how a newbie would have tried to handle this
whole thing. It ain't pretty. Linux is *not* ready for the desktop, and
Im starting to wonder if it ever will be.
I suspect that until Nvidia leave the PC market and the ATI open source
drivers render the binary junk
On Sunday 10 August 2008 20:54, Russell Miller wrote:
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Russell,
I've got a K9A Platinum. I've had sound working from day one, with a
better set of drivers and a better mixer. The difference is that I went
to
After
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:11:57 -0500
Arthur Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here, I think a compromise is necessary. If you're running a server, I
think you're competent enough to turn of NetworkManager (it was really
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Nigel Henry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 10 August 2008 20:54, Russell Miller wrote:
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Russell,
I've got a K9A Platinum. I've had sound working from day one, with a
better set of
2008/8/10 Russell Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Russell,
I've got a K9A Platinum. I've had sound working from day one, with a
better set of drivers and a better mixer. The difference is that I went
to
After I fixed
2008/8/10 Russell Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
After I fixed that wonderful permissions problem it almost all started
working. I can't get youtube videos to work for some reason, and the USB
audio adapter I just bought refuses to output stuff, but the azalia is
working.
But then I tried to
In all fairness Russel, unless you specifically want to mess with this
problem, the common way is to use Livna/Atrpms.. Livna even has a
kernel independent package whose name i can't remember which
will/should work with any kernel.
So really, you chose the toughest way if you ran into that
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
yum install libflashsupport from the Adobe repo
It comes from the Fedora repo and not the Adobe repo. It is a hack to
workaround the broken way in which Flash uses ALSA. This has been fixed
by Adobe in their latest beta release of Flash.
Rahul
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yum install libflashsupport from the Adobe repo
That did the trick, thanks. But I had to yum install libflashsupport.i386.
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2008/8/10 Russell Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In all fairness Russel, unless you specifically want to mess with this
problem, the common way is to use Livna/Atrpms.. Livna even has a
kernel independent package whose name i can't remember which
will/should work with any kernel.
So really,
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Rahul Sundaram
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
yum install libflashsupport from the Adobe repo
It comes from the Fedora repo and not the Adobe repo. It is a hack to
workaround the broken way in which Flash uses ALSA. This has been fixed by
2008/8/10 Russell Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
yum install libflashsupport from the Adobe repo
That did the trick, thanks. But I had to yum install libflashsupport.i386.
I got the advice via irc://freenode/fedora myself, didn't need the
i386 suffix however.
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On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Arthur Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I got the advice via irc://freenode/fedora myself, didn't need the
i386 suffix however.
You'll only need it on a 64 bit system. I also needed to install the 386
version of nspluginwrapper and a whole bunch of other
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Arthur Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A newbie would likely either stick with the OSS drivers, (assuming
they get at least 1024x768) or they would Google it, or they would
give up.
That last option is to me what's inexcusable. We (and by we I mean the
2008/8/10 Russell Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Arthur Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A newbie would likely either stick with the OSS drivers, (assuming
they get at least 1024x768) or they would Google it, or they would
give up.
That last option is to me
2008/8/10 Russell Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Arthur Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A newbie would likely either stick with the OSS drivers, (assuming
they get at least 1024x768) or they would Google it, or they would
give up.
That last option is to me
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Joonas Sarajärvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fedora is for a user who is interested in rapid progress or free software.
It is
always in a state of change, even between the stable versions. If you
explicitly
want a system that rarely changes, some other
Fedora is for a user who is interested in rapid
progress or free software.
It is
always in a state of change, even between the stable
versions. If you
explicitly
want a system that rarely changes, some other
distribution might suit you a
lot
better than Fedora. I think Fedora's
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Antonio Olivares
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Write bug reports, look for solutions, share them with your fellow
Fedorians. It is an adventure. Many things are improving and changing with
new releases, but that is how software works here. It is constantly
Write bug reports, look for solutions, share them with
your fellow
Fedorians. It is an adventure. Many things are
improving and changing with
new releases, but that is how software works here. It
is constantly
evolving and moving forward. At least here you have a
voice and also
Russell Miller wrote:
I did write a bug report a couple of months back that hasn't even been
looked at yet - and I handed them a new specfile on a silver platter.
Oh well. Maybe it'll get better the more reports I submit.
What was the bz number?
Rahul
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On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Rahul Sundaram
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Russell Miller wrote:
I did write a bug report a couple of months back that hasn't even been
looked at yet - and I handed them a new specfile on a silver platter. Oh
well. Maybe it'll get better the more reports I
Russell Miller wrote:
454127
And it was closer to a month ago than two months. My bad. Still a long
time though.
It would be useful to product a diff instead of a new spec and attach
that instead. We have a quite large number of bugs opened so additional
help is welcome. If you are
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Russell Miller wrote:
454127
And it was closer to a month ago than two months. My bad. Still a long
time though.
It would be useful to product a diff instead of a new spec and attach that
instead. We have a quite
Russell Miller wrote:
I'm probably one of the few people who use that library, so I could
co-maintain it if there aren't any objections. How do I go about
signing up?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join
This process might seem a bit awkard if you are new, so if you need
On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 14:35 -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
May be time to change my choice of OS, or just to keep using it
and start bitching, because that seems to be what you guys are
looking for.
Well, take a tone of constructive criticism, posing problems and
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Matthew Saltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 14:35 -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
May be time to change my choice of OS, or just to keep using it
and start bitching, because that seems to be what you guys are
looking
On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 08:01 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 23:01 -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Tom spot Callaway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 18:43 -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
What gets me is that
I saw a message go past not too long ago about making
fedora 10 the best ever. If anyone has any desire to
cater to reactionary stick-in-the-mud users like me who hate
almost everything new, then take a look at:
http://home.att.net/~Tom.Horsley/stick.html
(Half rant, half useful information,
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
Seems like PulseAudio is the way forward towards reducing the myriad
of other ways. What problem do you have with it besides that it is
new?
If PulseAudio is what comes standard with FC9... guess what. It doesn't
work. The drivers don't recognize my sound card.
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Russell Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
Seems like PulseAudio is the way forward towards reducing the myriad
of other ways. What problem do you have with it besides that it is
new?
If PulseAudio is what comes standard with FC9...
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
I'm sorry to hear that... but I don't think PulseAudio has anything to
do with drivers. As I understand it, it's more of an abstraction
system so applications need not support, ALSA, OSS, etc.. just
PulseAudio.
But of course, if your hardware isn't being recognized by
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Russell Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
I'm sorry to hear that... but I don't think PulseAudio has anything to
do with drivers. As I understand it, it's more of an abstraction
system so applications need not support, ALSA, OSS, etc..
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 18:43 -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
What gets me is that it's an integrated soundchip. Usually those are
pretty well supported, at least in basics.
Out of curiousity, what soundchip is it? What does lspci say it is? What
kind of motherboard is it on?
~spot
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On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:57:26 -0700 (PDT)
Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you know, if Fedora has LXDE in its repositories.
Don't know the answer to that, but yum search lxde is a good
place to start when asking questions like that (may produce
a large amount of output though, so be
Do you know, if Fedora has LXDE in its repositories.
Don't know the answer to that, but yum search
lxde is a good
place to start when asking questions like that (may produce
a large amount of output though, so be prepared :-).
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Thanks.
Currently taking a look to see if it is
Don't know the answer to that, but yum search
lxde is a good
place to start when asking questions like that (may produce
a large amount of output though, so be prepared :-).
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Apparently it is not there :(
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum search lxde
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
updates
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:02:10 -0500
Arthur Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seems like PulseAudio is the way forward towards reducing the myriad
of other ways. What problem do you have with it besides that it is
new?
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