Paul W. Frields wrote:
A note on the supposedly useless interface -- my question is, why do
people care so much about a progress bar anyway? When I get an update
alert, I right-click, tell the system to install updates, and go about
my work. I don't care what the download speed is, since
On Friday 07 August 2009 11:55 PM, s wrote:
I just installed Fedora 11 and there are 400 updates available. I use a
dial-up connection in a part of town
where I get an average of 2.9 kilobytes per second (bad phone lines). So
when something is downloading that generally puts a halt on using the
On Saturday 08 August 2009 03:55:09 Tim wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 12:29 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I see your point, but when you're at the mercy of the mirror providing
the data, any estimate of time is difficult at best.
Having some idea is better than no idea. Is one going to wait
On Saturday 08 August 2009 07:55:51 s wrote:
Somewhere I read that 60% of the internet connections in the USA are
considered broadband connections. That means that 40% of us are still
walking down the information super highway.
There are other places, too, where this is the case. However much
On 08/07/2009 08:42 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
The developers out there who give users no credit for brains
would be better off designing software they actually want to
use themselves, they might find others want to use it as well.
They actually do use it and enjoy it. If you don't, be polite
On 09-08-08 02:55:51, s wrote:
...
I just installed Fedora 11 and there are 400 updates available. I use
a dial-up connection in a part of town where I get an average of 2.9
kilobytes per second (bad phone lines). So when something is
downloading that generally puts a halt on using the
Tony Nelson wrote:
If you just want to keep using the connection while a download is
taking place, you might benefit from traffic shaping, and possibly from
the Wonder Shaper (Google for it).
I would think that the throttle option in yum.conf would work better
for this. (man yum.conf)
2009/8/4 Stuart McGraw smcg4...@frii.com:
* What it is downloading?
* What is the total size of the downloads?
* How much is done, how much remains?
* How to pause it so I can get my email?
* How do I turn off auto-updates permanently?
(In System-Prefs-Software Updates I had set
Check
?
* How to pause it so I can get my email?
* How do I turn off auto-updates permanently?
(In System-Prefs-Software Updates I had set
Check for updates and Check for major updates
to Never but it still seems to be checking.
There seems to be a major flaw in your titling - they did not auto
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:58:32 -0600
Stuart McGraw smcg4...@frii.com wrote:
I take the lack of responses to my questions about the
software updater as being no. Am I the only one bothered
by this Microsoftification (no status info, no control,
no documentation, you users just sit back, be
On Friday 07 August 2009 14:43:59 stan wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:58:32 -0600
Stuart McGraw smcg4...@frii.com wrote:
I take the lack of responses to my questions about the
software updater as being no. Am I the only one bothered
by this Microsoftification (no status info, no control,
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:58:32 -0600
Stuart McGraw smcg4...@frii.com wrote:
I take the lack of responses to my questions about the
software updater as being no. Am I the only one bothered
by this Microsoftification (no status info, no control,
no documentation, you users just sit back, be
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:43:59 -0700
stan wrote:
We voted with our feet. I turn packagekit off immediately, and do
updates using yum directly from the command line. I have scripts that
Me too. I just wish I could turn off packagekit before I ever login
so it doesn't lock up the update process
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:50:44 +0100
Anne Wilson wrote:
Of course you are not forced to update from that notifier. I keep it on,
simply as a notifier. I then yum update at a time convenient to me.
If I have it on, I always find I get a message about the updates
being locked up by another
On 08/07/2009 07:43 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:50:44 +0100
Anne Wilson wrote:
Of course you are not forced to update from that notifier. I keep it on,
simply as a notifier. I then yum update at a time convenient to me.
If I have it on, I always find I get a message
On Friday 07 August 2009 15:13:50 Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:50:44 +0100
Anne Wilson wrote:
Of course you are not forced to update from that notifier. I keep it on,
simply as a notifier. I then yum update at a time convenient to me.
If I have it on, I always find I get a
On 08/07/2009 07:41 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
It is almost like
they carefully researched how all other GUI software update
tools worked and made sure they left out everything that could
be considered remotely useful from all previous designs :-).
It is not funny despite the smileys mostly
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:46:55 +0530
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
When was the last time you tried this? PackageKit doesn't check for
updates every time you login anymore. Only once per day and only takes
a few seconds usually.
Every time I login for the first time right after a new install
this
On 08/07/2009 07:54 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:46:55 +0530
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
When was the last time you tried this? PackageKit doesn't check for
updates every time you login anymore. Only once per day and only takes
a few seconds usually.
Every time I login for the
I'm not sure how Yum works with GNOME since I don't use it. When I'm
using F11 at home, with KDE4, and there's an update, a Packagekit
plasmoid pops up and allow me the chance to review what it wants to
update. I generally 'select all', but I have the option of selecting
whatever I want to
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:56:33 +0530
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Can you try again now?
OK, logging in as a standard gnome user with packagekit applet
still enabled, I was indeed able to run yum update in a terminal
without getting any messages about it being locked (of course
there are no updates to
2009/8/7 Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net:
Me too. I just wish I could turn off packagekit before I ever login
so it doesn't lock up the update process as soon as I do the first login
before
I can disable it :-).
There are many ways to disable it if you wish.
Or even wait for the interface
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:48:21 +0530
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
they carefully researched how all other GUI software update
tools worked and made sure they left out everything that could
be considered remotely useful from all previous designs :-).
It is not funny despite the smileys mostly
On 07/08/09 16:19, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 07 August 2009 15:13:50 Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:50:44 +0100
Anne Wilson wrote:
Of course you are not forced to update from that notifier. I keep it on,
simply as a notifier. I then yum update at a time convenient to me.
If I
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 16:07 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
I get to read your emails, and wonder why the hell I'm sitting here
trying to make a difference.
because most of us are not ungrateful and insulting. Please do not
consider a handful of vociferous jerks as representative of the
2009/8/7 Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net:
OK, I'll leave off the smiley: I cannot for the life of me imagine
any train of logic that could lead to the overall design of
packagekit without assuming they were deliberately attempting
to make it as bad as they possibly could.
Ha!
And, in fact,
Craig White wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 16:07 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
I get to read your emails, and wonder why the hell I'm sitting here
trying to make a difference.
because most of us are not ungrateful and insulting. Please do not
consider a handful of vociferous
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:53:20AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:56:33 +0530
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Can you try again now?
OK, logging in as a standard gnome user with packagekit applet
still enabled, I was indeed able to run yum update in a terminal
without getting
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 04:21:59PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
2009/8/7 Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net:
OK, I'll leave off the smiley: I cannot for the life of me imagine
any train of logic that could lead to the overall design of
packagekit without assuming they were deliberately
On 8/7/2009 10:11 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:43:59 -0700
stan wrote:
Me too. I just wish I could turn off packagekit before I ever login
so it doesn't lock up the update process as soon as I do the first login
before
I can disable it :-).
snip
You can do that. It's
On 8/7/2009 11:07 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
2009/8/7 Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net:
Me too. I just wish I could turn off packagekit before I ever login
so it doesn't lock up the update process as soon as I do the first login
before
I can disable it :-).
There are many ways to disable it
On Friday 07 August 2009 16:26:43 Gar Nelson wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 16:07 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
I get to read your emails, and wonder why the hell I'm sitting here
trying to make a difference.
because most of us are not ungrateful and insulting.
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:47 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 04:21:59PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
2009/8/7 Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net:
OK, I'll leave off the smiley: I cannot for the life of me imagine
any train of logic that could lead to the overall design
Craig White wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 16:07 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
I get to read your emails, and wonder why the hell I'm sitting here
trying to make a difference.
because most of us are not ungrateful and insulting. Please do not
consider a handful of vociferous jerks as
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Paul W. Frieldssticks...@gmail.com wrote:
A note on the supposedly useless interface -- my question is, why do
people care so much about a progress bar anyway? When I get an update
alert, I right-click, tell the system to install updates, and go about
my work.
2009/8/7 Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com:
I get to read your emails, and wonder why the hell I'm sitting here
trying to make a difference.
PackageKit has improved by leaps and bounds in the last few months and
I am grateful for that. I also like the fact that you listen to
feedback from the
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:05:04AM -0700, Alan Evans wrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Paul W. Frieldssticks...@gmail.com wrote:
A note on the supposedly useless interface -- my question is, why do
people care so much about a progress bar anyway? When I get an update
alert, I
On Friday 07 August 2009 17:02:25 Craig White wrote:
I think it is important to say this in response to your above comments
because of your status with Fedora Project...
There may be different opinions about what is the desired behavior but
that is why we have bugzilla and if you feel the
I get to read your emails, and wonder why the hell I'm
sitting here trying to make a difference.
Richard
You're sitting there trying to make a difference because there are a
WHOLE LOT of others, like myself, who aren't bitching on the list, who
greatly appreciate the work you and all
On Friday 07 August 2009 17:02:55 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
But most of us are polite when
making suggestions on how things could be changed to make them work
better for us. We also understand that out suggestions may not be
what is best for most users, and hope people will speak up if they
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 12:29 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I see your point, but when you're at the mercy of the mirror providing
the data, any estimate of time is difficult at best.
Having some idea is better than no idea. Is one going to wait seconds,
minutes, or hours? You can then decide
?
* How much is done, how much remains?
* How to pause it so I can get my email?
* How do I turn off auto-updates permanently?
(In System-Prefs-Software Updates I had set
Check for updates and Check for major updates
to Never but it still seems to be checking.
Not sure what all the answers
.
Clicking on the little updater icon in the Gnome
panel does not offer any information or control.
So... how do I find out:
* What it is downloading?
* What is the total size of the downloads?
* How much is done, how much remains?
* How to pause it so I can get my email?
* How do I turn off auto
?
* How to pause it so I can get my email?
* How do I turn off auto-updates permanently?
(In System-Prefs-Software Updates I had set
Check for updates and Check for major updates
to Never but it still seems to be checking.
Not sure what all the answers to those questions are, but if you
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