Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: On 12/30/2009 07:29 AM, Jon Masters wrote: One presumes that such auditing is expensive, lengthy, and not often to be repeated. Committing to undertaking a full code audit on every update would seem to be a little

OCaml in Rawhide upgraded to 3.11.2-rc1

2009-12-30 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
All the existing ocaml-* packages in Rawhide depend on ocaml(runtime) = 3.11.1 which means they will all have broken deps and need rebuilding. A simple bumpspec + rebuild should be sufficient. If any provenpackagers are feeling particularly bored this week ... Otherwise I'll try to do it in

Re: Can some provenpackager bump openvpn in EL-5

2009-12-30 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 08:55 +0530, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote: Hi, I have this bz open for some time now, with no response. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544944 Can some one with proven packager access bump the EL-5 version to the latest one in devel. Even though any proven

Re: Can some provenpackager bump openvpn in EL-5

2009-12-30 Thread Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jussi Lehtola wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 08:55 +0530, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote: Hi, I have this bz open for some time now, with no response. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544944 Can some one with proven packager access bump the

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: Well, I disagree: If they want to use their auditied version, they haven't understood how open source works. They qualify as jerks who prefer to use proprietary forks instead of paying back to upstream and the wider

Re: Can some provenpackager bump openvpn in EL-5

2009-12-30 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 16:35 +0530, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote: Jussi Lehtola wrote: Even though any proven packager could do the change, that bug does not fall in the items listed in the proven packager policy [1]. You haven't listed any problems with the current package, you're just

Thinking of contributing to Sugar?

2009-12-30 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Here's your chance! Join us for the upcoming weekly Fedora Sugar meetings in #fedora-olpc starting tomorrow, Dec 31 on 1500 UTC [1]. We're going to talk about packaging (especially Sugar Activities) and all kinds of stuff that helps us making the F13 Sugar experience better. You don't know

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Daniel Drake
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 12:25 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: Let's focus on the important bit: we need a frozen version of a library (that, btw, is useful, and is not in Fedora yet :-) ). What's the best practice for that? I don't see why we'd need to embed it statically anywhere (except OFW of

Re: OCaml in Rawhide upgraded to 3.11.2-rc1

2009-12-30 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 09:40:13AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: If any provenpackagers are feeling particularly bored this week ... Otherwise I'll try to do it in my spare time this week or next. I did all but about 10 of them. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Alexander Boström
ons 2009-12-30 klockan 13:37 + skrev Daniel Drake: I guess the approach I will take is to install our audited version as a shared library under a different name (libtommath_olpc?) which the libtommath-audited No sense making it look like it's only for OLPC use. If others want

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Martin Langhoff wrote: Let's focus on the important bit: we need a frozen version of a library (that, btw, is useful, and is not in Fedora yet :-) ). What's the best practice for that? I don't see why we'd need to embed it statically anywhere (except OFW of course). It's just not allowed. Use

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Daniel Drake wrote: The upstream library is already in Fedora as a shared library. I guess the approach I will take is to install our audited version as a shared library under a different name (libtommath_olpc?) which the components will then dynamically link against. While that at least

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Daniel Drake wrote: OLPC has previously had a specific version of tomcrypt/tommath profesionally audited for security reasons. So we obviously want to stick with that version. This is a bad idea and inconsistent with what Fedora is about. If you want that sort of things, you need to go back

Re: ABRT considered painful

2009-12-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Schwendt wrote: What's wrong with ABRT? My main beef with it is that it reports its crashes to the downstream bug tracker when really the right people to fix them are the upstream developers. KCrash/DrKonqi is much better there. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/30/2009 03:58 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Daniel Drake wrote: The upstream library is already in Fedora as a shared library. I guess the approach I will take is to install our audited version as a shared library under a different name (libtommath_olpc?) which the components will then

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tom spot Callaway wrote: FWIW, I'm pretty sure this is not against current Fedora policies, assuming that the libtommath maintainer signs off on it and there is no conflict between the two packages. I guess it's indeed not against the letter of the policies, it's still against their spirit

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 04:42:35PM -0500, Tom spot Callaway wrote: FWIW, I'm pretty sure this is not against current Fedora policies, assuming that the libtommath maintainer signs off on it and there is no conflict between the two packages. Indeed, it is just a compat library (and I think

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/30/2009 05:01 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Tom spot Callaway wrote: FWIW, I'm pretty sure this is not against current Fedora policies, assuming that the libtommath maintainer signs off on it and there is no conflict between the two packages. I guess it's indeed not against the letter of

Thinking of contributing to Sugar?

2009-12-30 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Here's your chance! Join us for the upcoming weekly Fedora Sugar meetings in #fedora-olpc starting tomorrow, Dec 31 on 1500 UTC [1]. We're going to talk about packaging (especially Sugar Activities) and all kinds of stuff that helps us making the F13 Sugar experience better. You don't know

Bad blog settings.

2009-12-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
Hi Dale, it looks like your blog got hacked over break and is posting vitamin spam. We have added you to the planet ignore on fedora. When you have fixed it up please let us know so we can remove the ignore. Thanks Stephen -- Stephen J Smoogen. Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Trusster Open Source License

2009-12-30 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/30/2009 01:53 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, Could you please clarify if the Trusster [1] Open Source License is an acceptable Free/Open Source Software License for the Fedora project. The Teal [2] project uses this license: The Trusster Open Source License is Free, but GPL

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Trusster Open Source License

2009-12-30 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: | The Trusster Open Source License is Free, but GPL incompatible. I've | added it to the Fedora approved licenses list, please use: | | License: TOSL \-- Thanks for your quick and prompt response! SK --

KVM Routing VLAN's

2009-12-30 Thread Overkill
Greetings, I have a box with Fedora and with 3 nics assigned to three different subnets sitting behind a ASA firewall. I have the nics setup as... eth0 10.10.1.2 (outside, dmz1) eth1 10.10.2.2 (inside, trusted) eth2 10.10.3.2 (dmz, dmz2) If I am sitting in the 10.10.2.x and I put in a public

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread Steven Susbauer
On Dec 29, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 11:10 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote: There was a discussion a while back as to how to describe list. The result is what you see today. The idea is that the list name/description would clarify expectations to everyone arriving here. In

Re: Where is 2.6.32?

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Cloaked
Mail Lists lists at sapience.com writes: On 12/29/2009 07:54 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: How come Fedora is still on 2.6.31? Is .32 held back on purpose or are there issues merging it? It took less than a week for .31.9 to be pushed through... but I don't see .32 in updates-testing and

Re: list server got slower ?

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Cloaked
Mail Lists lists at sapience.com writes: On 12/28/2009 02:46 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: Good points ... All very well - but the fact remains that for a user like me the list is the primary method of discussion about Fedora issues, fixes, workarounds etc. and I would like to see a timely

Re: Where is 2.6.32?

2009-12-30 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Mike Cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.comwrote: Mail Lists lists at sapience.com writes: On 12/29/2009 07:54 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: How come Fedora is still on 2.6.31? Is .32 held back on purpose or are there issues merging it? It took less than a

Re: slow boot for latest fedora kernel 2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64

2009-12-30 Thread N James Bridge
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 10:19 +1030, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 20:00 +, N James Bridge wrote: Without quiet I still get no output at all for 2min 35sec, then normal rush of messages. Bootchart (very nice!) shows that the boot process itself is running normally, once it starts,

Problem with shutdown button not firing ACPI event

2009-12-30 Thread Gijs
Hello List, I'm trying to get my shutdown button to work, but I can't seem to figure it out. When I press the button, nothing is received when I listen to ACPI events using acpi_listen. dmesg | grep -i acpi displays the following information: BIOS-e820: bdf9 - bdfa8000

Re: [fedora-virt] how to active XEN on Fedora 12

2009-12-30 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 02:23:37PM +0100, Dario Lesca wrote: Thanks Boris, I use F12 on my Laptop and I want run some VM for test new version of distro. KVM is generally better for laptops because of better power management. However ... Now I use qemu-kvm but each machine use 30/40% of CPU

Re: Where is 2.6.32?

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Cloaked
Paulo Cavalcanti promac at gmail.com writes: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-December/msg01138.html-- Paulo Roma CavalcantiLCG - UFRJ Ahh - thank you - there is usually a good reason for these things... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head

2009-12-30 Thread Kirk Lowery
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Anthony Messina amess...@messinet.comwrote: On Thursday 24 December 2009 05:41:03 Kirk Lowery wrote: Thanks for the response and the great idea! The same thing had occurred to me, especially as I had used this technique to install Fedora 10. Only...there

Very BAD preupgrade experience.

2009-12-30 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
Just had a bad experience with preupgrade. Had a phenom II x64 machine that had Fedora 11 freshly installed with default settengs a few weeks before 12 came out. Finally decided to try the upgrade to see how it would work, but could have done a clean install if it didn't work. Preupgraded

Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 08:20 -0500, Kirk Lowery wrote: Well, I tried this conf and it worked -- exactly as without an xorg.conf: everything about dual head works except for the background stretch. I guess I'm going to have to get in touch with the LiveCD developers, and find out who does

Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head

2009-12-30 Thread Kirk Lowery
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 08:20 -0500, Kirk Lowery wrote: Well, I tried this conf and it worked -- exactly as without an xorg.conf: everything about dual head works except for the background stretch. I guess I'm going

Re: Very BAD preupgrade experience.

2009-12-30 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 23:43 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: Just had a bad experience with preupgrade. Had a phenom II x64 machine that had Fedora 11 freshly installed with default settengs a few weeks before 12 came out. Finally decided to try the upgrade to see how it would work, but

no sound from wrapped macro-media flash player

2009-12-30 Thread Ralph Blach
Please excuse the previous post in html. Seamonkey did not ask me to choose between html and plain text Anyway, I have installed macro-media flash, and it works fine, except there is not sound. This worked great on when I wrapped on fedora 10. Any suggestions? Chip -- fedora-list mailing

Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 09:08 -0500, Kirk Lowery wrote: So...if a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists, does nouveau use it? If not, how does one force its use? the xorg.conf is used if it exists, and what's in it is used to overwrite what is detected automatically. Example, if you want to install

Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head

2009-12-30 Thread Kirk Lowery
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 09:08 -0500, Kirk Lowery wrote: So...if a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists, does nouveau use it? If not, how does one force its use? the xorg.conf is used if it exists, and what's in it is used to

Re: fedora

2009-12-30 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Parag, On Tuesday 29 December 2009 10:10 PM, parag wrote: hi I want fedora DVD of karmic 9.10 can any body send me or is there any site from where i can request it I think you have been misinformed that Karmic is a Fedora release. The latest Fedora release is Fedora 12 Constantine.

F12: KDE and PulseAudio latest update

2009-12-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
Having just updated my systems I have been trying to use skype with an USB webcam having its own microphone under KDE. The skype app only sees the PulseAudio device and cannot select the USB webcams mic from its options menu. This used to work some time in the past (F10 rather than F12 ?). Also

Re: Where is 2.6.32?

2009-12-30 Thread Mail Lists
On 12/30/2009 08:07 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote: Paulo Cavalcanti promac at gmail.com writes: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-December/msg01138.html-- Paulo Roma CavalcantiLCG - UFRJ Ahh - thank you - there is usually a good reason for these things... No,

F12 and CUPS (Epson Aculaser C4000)

2009-12-30 Thread Luc MAIGNAN
Hi, before F12 i didn't have any problems to configure my Epson Aculaser C4000 with CUPS. Unfortunaly, with F12 it doesn't work. The recommended driver doesn't work (my printer doesn't seem to like PS) and when I use my previous PPD file, it says to me that there is no filter. Anyone has an

Blocking auto-update of Kernel

2009-12-30 Thread James Allsopp
Hi, Is there an option to stop the F12 auto-update system updating my kernel. I want to avoid a situation where my kernel gets updated but there isn't a matching Madwifi rpm in the repositories? Best regards James -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: Blocking auto-update of Kernel

2009-12-30 Thread Pikachu_2014
2009/12/30 James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com Hi, Is there an option to stop the F12 auto-update system updating my kernel. I want to avoid a situation where my kernel gets updated but there isn't a matching Madwifi rpm in the repositories? Best regards James -- fedora-list

Where did my penguins go?

2009-12-30 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
I modified /etc/grub.conf on my ThinkPad W700 to show the boot-up process as text. I did this by commenting out hiddenmenu and removing rhgb and quiet from the kernel spec line. The W700 has trouble with a tickless kernel in F12 and needs nohz=off. The first stanza is shown below. The W700 has an

Re: Blocking auto-update of Kernel

2009-12-30 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:01 PM, James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, Is there an option to stop the F12 auto-update system updating my kernel. I want to avoid a situation where my kernel gets updated but there isn't a matching Madwifi rpm in the repositories? Adding

Re: Where did my penguins go?

2009-12-30 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage dsav...@peaknet.net wrote: I modified /etc/grub.conf on my ThinkPad W700 to show the boot-up process as text. I did this by commenting out hiddenmenu and removing rhgb and quiet from the kernel spec line. The W700 has trouble with a

Re: Blocking auto-update of Kernel

2009-12-30 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Pikachu_2014 pikachu.2...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/12/30 James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com Hi, Is there an option to stop the F12 auto-update system updating my kernel. I want to avoid a situation where my kernel gets updated but there isn't a

Re: ]$ Compiz working but I am a little confused ?!?

2009-12-30 Thread William Case
Hi; To be honest, my family complains that I am a lot confused. On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 11:00 -0500, William Case wrote: I can add the ModulePath /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia manually. But as the advice is dated April 2009, is it out of date (i.e. for versions earlier than F12)?

Re: [fedora-virt] how to active XEN on Fedora 12

2009-12-30 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:21:56PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 02:23:37PM +0100, Dario Lesca wrote: Thanks Boris, I use F12 on my Laptop and I want run some VM for test new version of distro. KVM is generally better for laptops because of better power

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread Chris Tyler
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 05:08 -0400, Steven Susbauer wrote: On Dec 29, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 11:10 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote: There was a discussion a while back as to how to describe list. The result is what you see today. The idea 0052b2a6-0010ist

Re: Very BAD preupgrade experience.

2009-12-30 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 30 December 2009 13:43:20 Michael D. Setzer II wrote: Just had a bad experience with preupgrade. [snip] Preupgraded started find downloading files, but eventually came up with a message that it needed more space on /boot. [snip] It would have been nicer to get a message to either

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread Todd Zullinger
Chris Tyler wrote: Suggestions for new text values are welcome -- but you will have to sell your proposal. IMO, the current description should be changed, but I'd prefer to not see a lengthy debate on the list about it. It just doesn't seem important enough nor terribly on-topic. With over

Re: small gripe -- for Fedora, or KDE, or ....?

2009-12-30 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:37:02 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: BeartoothHOS wrote: But for as long as I can remember, there have been two kinds of entries in the Main menu: ones that will tell you what they are or do if you hover the cursor over them -- and ones that belong to KDE. Why the

Re: Wine (?) spoiling F12 boot : MITIGATED

2009-12-30 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:12:10 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: [...] What does System-admin-display say in the display tab? I find that I need to manually set that sometimes. I think I said system-config-display the first time, had the wrong WM in front of me. On the first tab

Re: RAID 1 Mismatches

2009-12-30 Thread Rick Wagner
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 10:17:32 pm Raman Gupta wrote: On 12/29/2009 03:18 PM, Rick Wagner wrote: On Tuesday 29 December 2009 06:27:27 am Michael Cronenworth wrote: Other replies also imply that this is common if you have swap or mmaped files on the MD. swap is on separate partitions,

A very good PCI Wireless card for Fedora/Linux

2009-12-30 Thread Jim
Sabrent 802.11N PCI-802N , two antennas, When I purchased this card it drove me crazy determining which Linux driver that was for this card. RT2860sta driver, I have it in a bedroom in a PC that couldn't get a 100% signal to it from a Linksys router, but with this card it gave me a 100%

Re: RAID 1 Mismatches

2009-12-30 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Eero Tamminen on 12/30/2009 04:09 AM wrote: Indeed, /var is on this volume, and lsof shows quite a number of mmaped files in /var/cache and /var/tmp. Thank you all for your help on this, I will relax now. Would you feel up to creating a bug against mdadm (the owner of 99-raid-check) and ask

Re: Very BAD preupgrade experience.

2009-12-30 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 30 Dec 2009 at 18:14, Marko Vojinovic wrote: From: Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com Send reply to: vma...@ipb.ac.rs To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject:Re: Very BAD preupgrade experience. Date sent: Wed, 30 Dec 2009

Re: small gripe -- for Fedora, or KDE, or ....?

2009-12-30 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 30 December 2009 18:26:53 BeartoothHOS wrote: On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:37:02 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: It goes both ways. For example, Gnome doesn't support the GenericName part of the desktop-spec, whereas KDE in general doesn't offer Comment keys. I have no idea what

Re: small gripe -- for Fedora, or KDE, or ....?

2009-12-30 Thread Rex Dieter
BeartoothHOS wrote: On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:37:02 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: BeartoothHOS wrote: But for as long as I can remember, there have been two kinds of entries in the Main menu: ones that will tell you what they are or do if you hover the cursor over them -- and ones that belong

Re: small gripe -- for Fedora, or KDE, or ....?

2009-12-30 Thread Jud Craft
*Why* do I get so much more info about Gnome apps than KDE ones, *who* could change that, and *where* can I make the request and expect it to be on topic? All this technical mumbo-jumbo aside. Basically, it's because GNOME treats the KDE apps unfairly. Yes, it's lame. Yes, it's a known

Re: Very BAD preupgrade experience.

2009-12-30 Thread Timothy Murphy
Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: It's too late now, but Michael Chronenworth posted a much simpler solution to preupgrade's /boot space problem. He moved install.img from /boot to a thumb drive. When anaconda doesn't find it in /boot, it asks for its location. Point anaconda to the thumb drive

i386 yum update download stops: updates/filelists_db

2009-12-30 Thread Rich Emberson
Trying to do a yum makecache on my fedora 12 i386 machine and it starts downloading updates/filelists_db and the download rate gets slower and slower, from 100s of KBs/second to KBs to 100s of B/s to Bytes/seccond to 0 B/s - basically stopping. I can Control-C to restart but the same happens

Re: GRUB2?

2009-12-30 Thread Tom H
I have forgotten whether the previous version of Ubuntu had an inittab but the current one, 9.10, does not. You can nonetheless modify the init levels at which init scripts are run (or not) and pass an init level as a kernel parameter in grub or through init X. Used to be able to, the latest

A great LAUGH for all Fedora users today

2009-12-30 Thread Jim
I was at the Super Walmart today in Indianapolis In., to check out the new Mini-laptops w/ MS7 and wanted to see how it look, all the laptops on display was asking for a PASSWOED, Ask a Walmart employee what was the password to check them out, she said some customer had changed all the

Re: GRUB2?

2009-12-30 Thread Mail Lists
On 12/30/2009 04:43 PM, Tom H wrote: To make an upstart job start at runlevels X and Y, you have to edit the start line: start on runlevel [XY] Except in older versions (like 0.3 and 0.6 too) is there a way to specify a dependency other than using a different run level ? If you want for

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 13:20 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: IMO, the current description should be changed, but I'd prefer to not see a lengthy debate on the list about it. My 2c: The Fedora users list poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread Mail Lists
On 12/30/2009 12:25 PM, Chris Tyler wrote: Suggestions for new text values are welcome -- but you will have to sell your proposal. -Chris I'd suggest something like: Fedora Users -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread Sam Sharpe
2009/12/30 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 13:20 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: IMO, the current description should be changed, but I'd prefer to not see a lengthy debate on the list about it. My 2c: The Fedora users list My 2p Fedora Users

Re: Where did my penguins go?

2009-12-30 Thread g
Richard Shaw wrote: try adding a VESA mode, something like vga=... I'm not sure what resolution you want to run but try vga=ask the first time and pick the one you like the most. If you're happy with it change the parameter to vga=0xmode. I found out the hard way that you need to put 0x on

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread Mail Lists
On 12/30/2009 06:27 PM, Mail Lists wrote: I'd suggest something like: Fedora Users Or perhaps: Fedora General -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread Ed Greshko
Sam Sharpe wrote: 2009/12/30 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 13:20 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: IMO, the current description should be changed, but I'd prefer to not see a lengthy debate on the list about it. My 2c: The Fedora users list

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread Ed Greshko
Mail Lists wrote: On 12/30/2009 06:27 PM, Mail Lists wrote: I'd suggest something like: Fedora Users Or perhaps: Fedora General Too non-specific . :-) -- Hello. Just walk along and try NOT to think about your INTESTINES being almost FORTY YARDS LONG!! Guess Who!

Re: GRUB2?

2009-12-30 Thread Tom H
To make an upstart job start at runlevels X and Y, you have to edit the start line: start on runlevel [XY] Except in older versions (like 0.3 and 0.6 too) is there a way to specify a dependency other than using a different run level ? If you want for example to start your sendmail milters

Re: i386 yum update download stops: updates/filelists_db

2009-12-30 Thread Rick Stevens
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Rich Emberson emberson.r...@gmail.comwrote: Trying to do a yum makecache on my fedora 12 i386 machine and it starts downloading updates/filelists_db and the download rate gets slower and slower, from 100s of KBs/second to KBs to 100s of B/s to Bytes/seccond

Kde problems

2009-12-30 Thread david walcroft
I'm using fc12-86_64,my problem is when ever I logout/login or shut-down/reboot I lose kde,it will not start,only a blue screen. and no desktop.Sometimes I get the error 'cannot access /usr/bin/autorun: no such file or directory' so I cp -r /usr/bin/autorun from my backup and logout/login with

Re: i386 yum update download stops: updates/filelists_db

2009-12-30 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Rich Emberson emberson.r...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to do a yum makecache on my fedora 12 i386 machine and it starts downloading updates/filelists_db and the download rate gets slower and slower, from 100s of KBs/second to KBs to 100s of B/s to Bytes/seccond to 0

Re: Preupgrade to F11 worked but... [can't get httpd to start]

2009-12-30 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:55:59 -0800 (PST) TNWestTex mcfo...@bellsouth.net wrote: Steve Blackwell wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:18:59 -0800 (PST) TNWestTex mcfo...@bellsouth.net wrote: Steve Blackwell wrote: I ran preupgrade to go from F10 to F11 and I was

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread William Case
Hi; On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 22:51 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 13:20 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: IMO, the current description should be changed, but I'd prefer to not see a lengthy debate on the list about it. My 2c: The Fedora users list Geez Patrick, would

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread Mail Llists
On 12/30/2009 07:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Mail Lists wrote: On 12/30/2009 06:27 PM, Mail Lists wrote: I'd suggest something like: Fedora Users Or perhaps: Fedora General Too non-specific . :-) Ok how about : Fedora Specifically General :-) -- fedora-list

Re: Where did my penguins go?

2009-12-30 Thread Bill Davidsen
g wrote: Richard Shaw wrote: try adding a VESA mode, something like vga=... I'm not sure what resolution you want to run but try vga=ask the first time and pick the one you like the most. If you're happy with it change the parameter to vga=0xmode. I found out the hard way that you need to put

Re: A great LAUGH for all Fedora users today

2009-12-30 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jim wrote: I was at the Super Walmart today in Indianapolis In., to check out the new Mini-laptops w/ MS7 and wanted to see how it look, all the laptops on display was asking for a PASSWOED, Ask a Walmart employee what was the password to check them out, she said some customer had changed all

Re: Where is 2.6.32?

2009-12-30 Thread Bill Davidsen
Konstantin Svist wrote: How come Fedora is still on 2.6.31? Is .32 held back on purpose or are there issues merging it? It took less than a week for .31.9 to be pushed through... but I don't see .32 in updates-testing and it's been almost a whole month... My personal experience with building

Re: -ck with Fedora?

2009-12-30 Thread Bill Davidsen
Dave Stevens wrote: Does anyone have experience to report in using the new -ck kernel patches? Have not tried them against Fedora kernel, the kernel.org kernel seemed stable. Wasn't that exciting, so I just booted and ran for an hour or so. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to

Re: Wine (?) spoiling F12 boot : MITIGATED

2009-12-30 Thread Bill Davidsen
BeartoothHOS wrote: On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:12:10 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: [...] What does System-admin-display say in the display tab? I find that I need to manually set that sometimes. I think I said system-config-display the first time, had the wrong WM in front of me. On the first

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread Antonio Olivares
I'm not a Fedora User.  I only keep a F12 virtual machine to investigate questions that interest me.  Does that disqualify me from posting?  :-) -- No sir! You shall not be disqualified! :) You are subscribed to the list and therefore you should be allowed to post :) And by the way,

Re: A great LAUGH for all Fedora users today

2009-12-30 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wednesday 30 December 2009 05:58 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Jim wrote: I was at the Super Walmart today in Indianapolis In., to check out the new Mini-laptops w/ MS7 and wanted to see how it look, all the laptops on display was asking for a PASSWOED, Ask a Walmart employee what was the

Re: Where did my penguins go?

2009-12-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
g writes: Richard Shaw wrote: try adding a VESA mode, something like vga=... I'm not sure what resolution you want to run but try vga=ask the first time and pick the one you like the most. If you're happy with it change the parameter to vga=0xmode. I found out the hard way that you need to

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-12-30 18:27:53, Mail Lists wrote: On 12/30/2009 12:25 PM, Chris Tyler wrote: Suggestions for new text values are welcome -- but you will have to sell your proposal. I'd suggest something like: Fedora Users Too terse to guide new signups away from the developers' list. The

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread William Case
Hi; On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 21:54 -0500, Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-12-30 18:27:53, Mail Lists wrote: On 12/30/2009 12:25 PM, Chris Tyler wrote: Suggestions for new text values are welcome -- but you will have to sell your proposal. I'd suggest something like: Fedora Users Too

Re: Where is 2.6.32?

2009-12-30 Thread john wendel
On 12/30/2009 06:08 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: How come Fedora is still on 2.6.31? Is .32 held back on purpose or are there issues merging it? It took less than a week for .31.9 to be pushed through... but I don't see .32 in updates-testing and it's been almost a whole

skype issues on Fedora 11

2009-12-30 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi All; I have a client that uses skype for group IM sessions when we do production release calls. I've installed Skype on my Fedora 11 box but when I click on the 'join public chat' link the group sends out (running firefox) I get this: Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because

Re: A great LAUGH for all Fedora users today

2009-12-30 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 20:58 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Having someone change the Linux root password would be better how? Boot to runlevel 1 and change it back. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

The Counter-Fedora People At #fedora

2009-12-30 Thread Randy Yates
Why do the following people, time after time, insist on banning me for asking fedora questions on #fedora? VileGent Khaytsus (or however you speel his name) [R] They are absolute pricks. If the Fedora community wants to improve their position with the public, I suggest that they start

Re: The Counter-Fedora People At #fedora

2009-12-30 Thread Ed Greshko
Randy Yates wrote: Why do the following people, time after time, insist on banning me for asking fedora questions on #fedora? VileGent Khaytsus (or however you speel his name) [R] They are absolute pricks. If the Fedora community wants to improve their position with the public, I

Re: The Counter-Fedora People At #fedora

2009-12-30 Thread Randy Yates
Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com writes: Randy Yates wrote: Why do the following people, time after time, insist on banning me for asking fedora questions on #fedora? VileGent Khaytsus (or however you speel his name) [R] They are absolute pricks. If the Fedora community wants to

Changing GNOME default directories

2009-12-30 Thread Alessandro Boggiano
Hello all, how can I change the position of the default directories in GNOME ? For example, I'd like to change Download directory from $HOME/Download to /Data/Download. I changed the line XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR=$HOME/Download in the file /home/myuser/.config/user-dirs.dirs, logout/login, but no

Re: Where is 2.6.32?

2009-12-30 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 12/30/2009 07:39 PM, john wendel wrote: F11 with kernel.org 2.6.32.2 + Nvidia driver working fine here. You really should learn to build a kernel from sources, once you get the config file done, the rest is easy. I've done this way: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/CustomKernel But don't

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