Re: echo, new ideas

2008-05-29 Thread Adam Sobotka
1) I have to say...I don't like idea of Echo as default. I think there is some missing piece in experience for fedora beginners. When you start Vista for first time, there is some wizard asking what background you like...if you want transparency...etc. Until our newbies can choose, best choice for

Re: I want them...

2008-05-29 Thread Valent Turkovic
2008/5/28 Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 11:52 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote: I looked at new Fedora wiki page - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Main_Page and first thing that i notices were gorgeous echo icons! Please, please, pretty please replace gnome menu icons

Re: SVG files in the wiki

2008-05-29 Thread Máirín Duffy
Nicu Buculei wrote: Ian Weller wrote: Regardless of trademark issues, we have tried being able to render SVGs automatically and it failed spetacularly. I imagine we will try again soon. -- ian Please keep us posted when succeeding, that would help a lot in reducing the number of

Re: SVG files in the wiki

2008-05-29 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is mediawiki's SVG renderer going to be really capable with more complex SVGs though? I believe that the wiki is using rsvg behind the scenes to render the SVG. In theory though, it should be possible to use Inkscape's

Re: SVG files in the wiki

2008-05-29 Thread Pavel Shevchuk
Modern browsers (shipping by default in fedora) can display SVGs put in img tag. Do we really care about IE users so much? On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: Ian Weller wrote: Regardless of trademark issues, we have tried being able to

Re: echo, new ideas

2008-05-29 Thread Nicu Buculei
Adam Sobotka wrote: 1) I have to say...I don't like idea of Echo as default. I think there is some missing piece in experience for fedora beginners. When you start Vista for first time, there is some wizard asking what background you like...if you want transparency...etc. Until our newbies can

Re: SVG files in the wiki

2008-05-29 Thread Jon Stanley
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Jeffrey Ollie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that the wiki is using rsvg behind the scenes to render the SVG. In theory though, it should be possible to use Inkscape's command line facilities to render the SVG. I've never tried it though... Yeah, but

Re: SVG files in the wiki

2008-05-29 Thread Máirín Duffy
Jon Stanley wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Jeffrey Ollie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that the wiki is using rsvg behind the scenes to render the SVG. In theory though, it should be possible to use Inkscape's command line facilities to render the SVG. I've never tried it

Re: SVG files in the wiki

2008-05-29 Thread Ian Weller
On Thu, 29 May 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: Is mediawiki's SVG renderer going to be really capable with more complex SVGs though? IIRC, there is an option to use Inkscape as a backend. -- ian___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com

Re: [Project Idea] The Fedora History Tour

2008-05-29 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2008-05-26 at 20:06 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: Before we duplicate efforts here it is worth mentioning that Jon has been working on a comparative study of backgrounds of various OSes. Jon has now made his document available:

[Bug 448289] [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language

2008-05-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [ro] Fonts in distribution contains incorrect glyphs for Romanian language https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=448289 --- Additional Comments

Re: Logging #fedora-meeting

2008-05-29 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 01:49:54PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: There's been some requests to log #fedora-meeting automatically. There's technical issues there like where to store them, is there a way to auto start / stop meetings, etc. Lets discuss. thoughts? I suppose you guys have

Re: OpenID

2008-05-29 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2008-05-29 09:16:09 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: It *almost* worked for me, until an 500 Internal error in https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/openid/allow Ah, good find. I just tried to fix a bug in that, can you try again with the same OpenID consumer and see if it works? Thanks, Ricky

Re: OpenID

2008-05-29 Thread Till Maas
On Thu May 29 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: Hey guys, so the last little bits are in good shape for the OpenID provider we're attempting to be. Don't go announcing this to others yet. Lets test it out, if it breaks something let us know. We'll be announcing it officially soon. You can, for

Re: OpenID

2008-05-29 Thread Jonathan Roberts
2008/5/29 Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey guys, so the last little bits are in good shape for the OpenID provider we're attempting to be. Don't go announcing this to others yet. Lets test it out, if it breaks something let us know. We'll be announcing it officially soon. You can, for

Re: OpenID

2008-05-29 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
2008/5/29 Till Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu May 29 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: Hey guys, so the last little bits are in good shape for the OpenID provider we're attempting to be. Don't go announcing this to others yet. Lets test it out, if it breaks something let us know. We'll be announcing

Re: OpenID

2008-05-29 Thread Kostas Georgiou
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:07:43PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: On Thu May 29 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: Hey guys, so the last little bits are in good shape for the OpenID provider we're attempting to be. Don't go announcing this to others yet. Lets test it out, if it breaks something let us

Re: OpenID

2008-05-29 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Kostas Georgiou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A possible solution to the phishing issue might be to only allow ssl client auth and not a login/password for a.fp.org/accounts/openid/login this doesn't stop the phishing site asking for a password but the difference

Re: Introduction

2008-05-29 Thread Mike McGrath
On Thu, 29 May 2008, Alex Musolino wrote: Hi, I've been using Linux for a little more than 3 years now (RedHat 9, FC5, FC6, F7, F8) and have since taken a strong interest in all things Linux/FOSS/Computers in general. I'm currently doing a Computer Systems Engineering degree as a double

Re: OpenID

2008-05-29 Thread Jeffrey Tadlock
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Jeffrey Ollie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/5/29 Till Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here is an interesting blog article about security considerations wrt. openid: http://idcorner.org/2007/08/22/the-problems-with-openid/ While I don't have any specific replies to

Re: OpenID

2008-05-29 Thread Nicu Buculei
Ricky Zhou wrote: On 2008-05-29 09:16:09 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: It *almost* worked for me, until an 500 Internal error in https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/openid/allow Ah, good find. I just tried to fix a bug in that, can you try again with the same OpenID consumer and see if it

Re: OpenID

2008-05-29 Thread Mike McGrath
On Thu, 29 May 2008, Jeremy Katz wrote: Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: The phishing problem isn't unique to OpenID. No, it isn't unique to OpenID - but it is certainly an area we should take into account before implementing OpenID. With all of that said - I like the OpenID idea. And we run

Re: Call For Testers - Elections Application

2008-05-29 Thread Aioanei Rares
Nigel Jones wrote: Hi everyone, With Fedora 9 out the door we hit a very busy time for elections, the previous system was, well lets just say, not optimal. So I accepted the goal of creating an application by our post-release election season that would integrate well with FAS and would

Re: OpenID

2008-05-29 Thread Till Maas
On Thu May 29 2008, Kostas Georgiou wrote: I am not sure that I see any value in OpenID in any case, there are very few OpenID consumers that I know about. I would like to see many upstream bugtrackers allow ingan OpenID login, so that I do not need another new password and registration for

Re: Call For Testers - Elections Application

2008-05-29 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On May 29, 2008, Nigel Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I accepted the goal of creating an application by our post-release election season that would integrate well with FAS and would allow a different method of voting, Range Voting. Have you considered basing your work on CIVS?

RE: Anyone else have a T42 /w Fedora?

2008-05-29 Thread Jeremey Wise
I know this is a bit late on the response but ... work :P Dual head features of the IBM Thinkpad series T41, T42, and T43 models do NOT work and likely never will at this rate. I posted a kernel bug back almost two years ago and it is still ongoing. I am moving to a T6x model soon so I PRAY

Re: lastest kernel support fedora 9 DVD

2008-05-29 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 16:14 -0500, Randy Easley wrote: Where can I download the latest kernel support dvd for Fedora 9? I want to be able to install in graphical mode. Also, I'm head to head with Fedora vs Centos You are comparing apples and oranges. Both are addressing different audiences

Re: PGP signatures.

2008-05-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 29 May 2008 02:08, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 17:49 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: It is important, though, to maintain the web-of-trust. It does have legal implications, and that's why local signing is an option. I use encryption for correspondence with one person, and for

Re: Fedora 9 + Network Manager = Wireless NOT Connecting

2008-05-29 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 23:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 21:31 -0400, Marc Ferguson wrote: Hi, The PATH variable seems to already have a value in it: PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin I should hope so. $PATH is where the Shell looks for commands to execute. It's a

Firefox plugins

2008-05-29 Thread Antonio M
Suddenly when I digit about:plugins I find that no plugins are installed!!! where have they gone??? Running firefox-3.0-0.60.beta5.fc9.i386 -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: Fedora 9 + Network Manager = Wireless NOT Connecting

2008-05-29 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 21:09 -0400, Marc Ferguson wrote: I tried the lspci command, but it says command not found. I'm logged in as root, in the terminal. Also; ifconfig, iwconfig are not found either? How do I get these back. How did you log in? I'm guessing you used su rather than su -.

Re: Yeah, I have desktop effects:

2008-05-29 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 20:36 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: 2. Fonts are significantly larger with the nvidia driver than with the open nvidia version. I wonder why? Screen size or DPI settings, most likely. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -ipr 2.6.23.15-80.fc7 i686 i386 Don't send private

Re: F9 network configuration bug? -- SOLVED

2008-05-29 Thread David Mozurkewich
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 04:12 +, Amadeus W.M. wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2008 16:03:05 -0400, David Mozurkewich wrote: I just added a second computer behind my netgear WGR614v4 router. I installed Fedora 9. My last install was FC5 so there is much in F9 that is unfamiliar to me. To avoid

Re: ssh to a remote server via gateway server

2008-05-29 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
lux wrote: Hi, I routinely login a remote server via a 'gateway' machine. For example, I need to login to PC B using ssh. But this PC B is behind a firewall.ssh port on PC A is open. As a result, I have to login PC A via ssh, then ssh PC B from PC A. Is there ssh command line option that I

Re: Fedora 9 + Network Manager = Wireless NOT Connecting

2008-05-29 Thread Marc Ferguson
Yes I did log in using su, what's the difference with the - option? Well I did get the lspci command to work. I exported it to a text file. As soon as I get to work I'll post the result. Thanks for the detailed help. VI is a very cool application, but hard to figure out at first. I spent a couple

Fedora 9 - changing screen resolution with sys-config-display (or not)

2008-05-29 Thread John Whitley
Having fresh installed Fedora 9, I am struggling with changing both the Monitor type and the screen resolution. System-Administration-Display-Hardware allowed ne to change the Monitor type to Generic LCD 1280x1024 Further attempts do not update /etc/X11/xorg.conf Setting the monitor to

dual monitor setup crashes SE troubleshooter!?!

2008-05-29 Thread Steve
I used preupgrade to upgrade from F7 to F9 but X did not start. Running system-config-display got one of my 2 monitors up and running. I tried to get my second monitor working by using my xorg.conf file that worked in F7. Then I did a Ctrl-Alt-F1, logged in as root and did an init 3, and then

Re: Fedora 9 - changing screen resolution with sys-config-display (or not)

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 14:15 +0100, John Whitley wrote: Having fresh installed Fedora 9, I am struggling with changing both the Monitor type and the screen resolution. System-Administration-Display-Hardware allowed ne to change the Monitor type to Generic LCD 1280x1024 Further attempts

Re: Fedora 9 + Network Manager = Wireless NOT Connecting

2008-05-29 Thread Mike Burger
Hi, The PATH variable seems to already have a value in it: PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin Add the actual path after what's there, i.e. PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:/search/path/1:/search/path/2 As for the locate command I got this error: locate: can not open '/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db' : No such file

Re: Fedora 9 + Network Manager = Wireless NOT Connecting

2008-05-29 Thread Mike Burger
Yes I did log in using su, what's the difference with the - option? Well I did get the lspci command to work. I exported it to a text file. As soon as I get to work I'll post the result. Thanks for the detailed help. VI is a very cool application, but hard to figure out at first. I spent a

Network card not starting with boot

2008-05-29 Thread Marcelo Garcia
Hi. I installed Fedora 9 and I having a problem with to start my network card when the computer starts. The computer is a Dell Precision 450 and the network card is Intel 82545 EM Gigabit Ether. More details bellow. Does anyone have an idea of what is happening? Thanks Marcelo # Intel

Re: Fedora 9 + Network Manager = Wireless NOT Connecting

2008-05-29 Thread Marc Ferguson
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I did log in using su, what's the difference with the - option? Well I did get the lspci command to work. I exported it to a text file. As soon as I get to work I'll post the result. Thanks for the detailed help.

Re: Network card not starting with boot

2008-05-29 Thread Marcelo Garcia
Hi Mikkel I think you are right. I disabled network manager [1] but didn't enable network. Thanks Marcelo [1] System- Administration - Network Device Control - Configure - Network Configuration Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Marcelo Garcia wrote: Hi. I installed Fedora 9 and I having a

Re: PGP signatures.

2008-05-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 16:48 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: gpg --list-keys 1E1C9C17 This does not work for me. -- === genealogy, n.: An account of one's descent from an ancestor who did not particularly care to trace his own.

Fedora 9/KDE 4 'non kde app'

2008-05-29 Thread John Minson
On all earlier versions of Fedora/kde I was able to add a 'non kde app' and give it any icon I wanted . I suspect I still can but the mechanism obviously is different on Fedora 9/KDE 4 . Any quick pointers ? begin:vcard tel;work:843-218-6521 version:2.1 end:vcard -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: how to find WEP/WPA key to network if possible

2008-05-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 21:06 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Well, my experience is that I've help to configure 2 different laptops under windows xp, and in both cases, the wireless key was available from the configuration tool in plain text. YMMV. If the wireless key is readily

Re: how to find WEP/WPA key to network if possible

2008-05-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 16:46 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: - Original Message From: Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com Cc: Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:31:56 PM Subject: Re: how to find WEP/WPA key

Re: how to find WEP/WPA key to network if possible

2008-05-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 23:23 -0400, max wrote: WEP is easily broken in under 5 minutes with the right tools. There are plenty of how-to's strewn across the net You can't break the WEP key unless someone is currently communicating on the connection. Find aircrack and try it. --

Re: problem with totem

2008-05-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 11:29 +0530, Amitakhya Phukan wrote: hi all! totem has suddenly stopped its sound output. any help ? it is a recently updated f9 box. If its available for f9 from livna I would replace totem by totem-xine. The executable is still called totem --

More Qlogic driver madness.

2008-05-29 Thread Mark Haney
This is really getting silly. How is it possible that an initrd will not USE the firmware included with it to allow me to initialize my Qlogic FC card? I've built my own, I've read everything I can about initrd and initramfs and I'm still stuck. Are there tools included with Fedora that let

Re: F9: libusb palm syncing not working

2008-05-29 Thread Peter Boy
Am Montag, den 19.05.2008, 11:37 -0700 schrieb Brian Mury: I am trying to get my Palm M130 working with F9 using libusb. When I start the hotsync, /var/log/messages shows this: May 19 11:32:41 localhost kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 3 may bi the culprit. See

Re: Fc 7 installs- not Fc 8

2008-05-29 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 05/27/2008 12:38 AM -- Dave Stevens wrote: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: After formatting the HD, I tried to install Fc 8 by a DVD, but failed.I was able to do it with Fc 7 (a DVD). please explain the error message when the install failed. Dave

Re: livna nvidia at last!

2008-05-29 Thread Mike Chambers
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 12:18 +, Tom Horsley wrote: Downloaded the latest kmod-nvidia from livna this morning, and finally I can run my monitor at the 1920x1200 resolution God (or DELL, anyway) intended it to run at. Still have to add the bogus driver option: Upgraded to newer kernel in test

Re: problem with totem

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:11 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 11:29 +0530, Amitakhya Phukan wrote: hi all! totem has suddenly stopped its sound output. any help ? it is a recently updated f9 box. If its available for f9 from livna I would replace totem by totem-xine.

Re: Fedora 9/KDE 4 'non kde app'

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:54 -0400, John Minson wrote: On all earlier versions of Fedora/kde I was able to add a 'non kde app' and give it any icon I wanted . I suspect I still can but the mechanism obviously is different on Fedora 9/KDE 4 . Any quick pointers ? See the thread starting at

Public folders

2008-05-29 Thread Antonio M
I don't understand why I am able to transfer between Public folders of computer of my network...but when I try to transfer a complete directory I get an error (File or object not found) Both computer are running on F9. Any explanation??? -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag --

Re: Yeah, I have desktop effects:

2008-05-29 Thread Rex Dieter
kwhiskerz wrote: Rex Dieter wrote: IMHO, if you don't know what these mean, what they do, or their impact, stick with the defaults. :) Sheesh! You mean I have to turn them all off again? :-) heh, you don't *have* to do anything. Tinker to your heart's content, it's your box afterall.

Re: Fedora 9 + Network Manager = Wireless NOT Connecting

2008-05-29 Thread Marc Ferguson
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 12:22 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 08:18 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 05:15 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 23:00

Re: Public folders

2008-05-29 Thread Mark Haney
Antonio M wrote: I don't understand why I am able to transfer between Public folders of computer of my network...but when I try to transfer a complete directory I get an error (File or object not found) Both computer are running on F9. Any explanation??? Okay, I'm a little unclear on what you

F9 - DPMS not working

2008-05-29 Thread John Horne
Hello, Using F9, with KDE 4.0.4 desktop, my LCD display never seems to enter power-saving mode. I have a screensaver configured to kick in after 5 mins, and that works fine. The Xorg log file shows that DPMS is enabled, as does 'xset -q'. Running 'xset dpms force off' (or standy/suspend) and the

Re: Fedora 9/KDE 4 'non kde app'

2008-05-29 Thread John Minson
This link does not address what I'm trying to do. I create a bash script that runs /some/dir/XYZ.sh . I used to be able to add an arbitrary icon to my panel that invokes it .I can in fact open the file manager and drag /some/dir/XYZ.sh into the panel but I cannot modify the icon representing

Re: Fedora 9/KDE 4 'non kde app'

2008-05-29 Thread Anne Wilson
Please don't top-post. It makes threads difficult to follow. On Thursday 29 May 2008 19:04:29 John Minson wrote: This link does not address what I'm trying to do. I create a bash script that runs /some/dir/XYZ.sh . I used to be able to add an arbitrary icon to my  panel that invokes it .I

Re: F9 - DPMS not working

2008-05-29 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 18:29 +0100, John Horne wrote: Hello, Using F9, with KDE 4.0.4 desktop, my LCD display never seems to enter power-saving mode. I have a screensaver configured to kick in after 5 mins, and that works fine. The Xorg log file shows that DPMS is enabled, as does 'xset

Re: Fedora 9 + Network Manager = Wireless NOT Connecting

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:20 -0400, Marc Ferguson wrote: Excellent, thanks for that info. Here is the result of lspci: 02:02.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01) Subsystem: Actiontec Electronics Inc Unknown device 2406 Flags: bus master,

Today's kernel is no good

2008-05-29 Thread kwhiskerz
kernel-2.6.25.4-30.f9 won't boot. I get error, EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option auto or missing value, and as a result, /selinux, /sys, etc are not created and the system hangs. Yet, fstab seems fine and the previous kernels all worked and the last one still does. -- fedora-list mailing

Re: Yeah, I have desktop effects:

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 13:57 -0400, Marc Ferguson wrote: What does IMHO mean? I've got desktop effects and it is the coolest thing next to slice bread... or better yet, English Muffins. IMHO = In My Humble Opinion You need to learn your net jargon :-) Other common acronyms on mailing lists

F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread scm in seattle
I have been using F8 for a while now and simply put it was the only distro that supported my laptop (fairly) well. Today I accepted what appeared to be 'typical' updates. The size of the update concerned me slightly (500Mb) but turned to horror when it finished and I rebooted. My useful KDE3

Re: Fedora 9 + Network Manager = Wireless NOT Connecting

2008-05-29 Thread Marc Ferguson
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:20 -0400, Marc Ferguson wrote: Excellent, thanks for that info. Here is the result of lspci: 02:02.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)

Re: Fedora 9 + Network Manager = Wireless NOT Connecting

2008-05-29 Thread Robert Cahn
I have updated my desktop using the 64-bit desktop of F9 from F7. My wireless is described by: 00:0a.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01) Subsystem: Netgear MA311 802.11b wireless adapter Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 18

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread Rex Dieter
scm in seattle wrote: I have been using F8 for a while now and simply put it was the only distro that supported my laptop (fairly) well. Today I accepted what appeared to be 'typical' updates. The size of the update concerned me slightly (500Mb) but turned to horror when it finished and I

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread Rex Dieter
scm in seattle wrote: I have been using F8 for a while now and simply put it was the only distro that supported my laptop (fairly) well. Today I accepted what appeared to be 'typical' updates. The size of the update concerned me slightly (500Mb) but turned to horror when it finished and I

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread Todd Zullinger
scm in seattle wrote: I have been using F8 for a while now and simply put it was the only distro that supported my laptop (fairly) well. Today I accepted what appeared to be 'typical' updates. The size of the update concerned me slightly (500Mb) but turned to horror when it finished and I

updating USB flash drive MBR to allow boot

2008-05-29 Thread Javier Perez
Hi I hae a Kingston Data Traveller USB flash drive (8GB) which for some reason I cannot make a bootable USB drive. Googling around I came up with this information: -Some USB flash drives are notorious for having problems with corrupted master boot records. Credit goes to BHSPitMonkey for

USB Install Method?

2008-05-29 Thread Sean Bruno
Back in the mists of time, there used to be a diskimage.img in the distribution that you could dd to a USB stick and boot the installer of Fedora. Then you could install via the network or whatever. The README in images on the x86_64 DVD ISO references diskimage.img, but the file is AWOL on the

Re: updating USB flash drive MBR to allow boot

2008-05-29 Thread das
On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:13:25 -0500 Javier Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot make a bootable USB drive. Did you try fdisk to make the partition bootable before using livecd-iso-to-disk? -- das ddts.randomink.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: Yeah, I have desktop effects:

2008-05-29 Thread das
On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:15:02 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to learn your net jargon :-) Other common acronyms on mailing lists (and increasingly elsewhere as well): Is it Mailing list -- and increasingly elsewhere, or, Elsewhere -- Mailing lists? Is it a mailing

Re: how to find WEP/WPA key to network if possible

2008-05-29 Thread Ian Malone
Mike Burger wrote: --- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what some teachers got to do after the Network became encrypted. They took their computers to the Administrator and he put the key in for them and they are happily surfing. Other teachers that seldom use their laptops,

Re: problem with totem

2008-05-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 12:24 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:11 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 11:29 +0530, Amitakhya Phukan wrote: hi all! totem has suddenly stopped its sound output. any help ? it is a recently updated f9 box. If

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread scm in seattle
Hi Rex, yum repolist shows: Fedora - Rawhide... My own doing surely while looking for some other package I required. I guess it's time to rebuild the installation, unless you have any other suggestions on how to recover this mess. Thanks for your help. Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scm

Re: Yeah, I have desktop effects:

2008-05-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 29 May 2008, Marc Ferguson wrote: [...] it is the coolest thing next to slice bread... or better yet, English Muffins. English Muffins better than sliced bread? I always thought the next step up was to bottled beer. There is of course one that's better yet, but this IS a mixed

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread Arthur Pemberton
2008/5/29 scm in seattle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No I did not read the release notes because... I was NOT intending to upgrade to F9! I did accept the updates that the update notifier prompted for me to accept. Fedora may have bugs, but it doesn't auto update to a different version. Perhaps I

Re: PGP signatures.

2008-05-29 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Aaron Konstam wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 11:07 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Aaron Konstam wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 16:48 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: gpg --list-keys 1E1C9C17 This does not work for me. Do you have her key in your key ring? If not, you have to run gpg

Re: Yeah, I have desktop effects:

2008-05-29 Thread Don Levey
Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 29 May 2008, Marc Ferguson wrote: [...] it is the coolest thing next to slice bread... or better yet, English Muffins. English Muffins better than sliced bread? I always thought the next step up was to bottled beer. There is of course one that's better yet,

Re: PGP signatures.

2008-05-29 Thread Todd Zullinger
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Aaron Konstam wrote: It looks like ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf may not have the keyservers configured correctly. I know I kept the same config file through several updates, and the keyservers were no longer valid. I am not sure if hkp://subkeys.pgp.net would work. I am

RE: repository for thunderbird [solved] + structuring boxes

2008-05-29 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
g wrote: | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: | g wrote: | | dan, | | this is not in thinking you do not know. only for those | who may not. | [snip!] | | I think the box (folders/directory) layouts are | arbitrary, you can setup your structures as you desire. | | nor did i imply otherwise. |

Re: updating USB flash drive MBR to allow boot

2008-05-29 Thread Bill Davidsen
Javier Perez wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:58 PM, das [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:13:25 -0500 Javier Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot make a bootable USB drive. Did you try fdisk to make the

Re: livna nvidia at last!

2008-05-29 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mike Chambers wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 12:18 +, Tom Horsley wrote: Downloaded the latest kmod-nvidia from livna this morning, and finally I can run my monitor at the 1920x1200 resolution God (or DELL, anyway) intended it to run at. Still have to add the bogus driver option: Upgraded

Re: Yeah, I have desktop effects:

2008-05-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 29 May 2008, Don Levey wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 29 May 2008, Marc Ferguson wrote: [...] it is the coolest thing next to slice bread... or better yet, English Muffins. English Muffins better than sliced bread? I always thought the next step up was to bottled beer.

RE: repository for thunderbird [solved] + structuring boxes

2008-05-29 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: | g wrote: | | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: [snip!] | | ok. but i am at wonder why, or is it due to ms ex 6? | | No, it is not due to ms ex 6 exclusively - it was setup | arbitrarily as explained earlier. Uh, I may have mis-read your statement. As for why the namespace

Re: PGP signatures.

2008-05-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 15:54 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Aaron Konstam wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 11:07 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Aaron Konstam wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 16:48 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: gpg --list-keys 1E1C9C17 This does not work for me. Do

F9 Qemu: where does it store boot options for images

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick
Hi, I'm playing with qemu and can't find where qemu stores the boot options for images. I would like to tweak a few settings but I can't find where to makes the changes. Anyone care to enlighten me? Thanks! Patrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: F9 - DPMS not working

2008-05-29 Thread John Horne
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 18:30 +, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 18:29 +0100, John Horne wrote: Hello, Using F9, with KDE 4.0.4 desktop, my LCD display never seems to enter power-saving mode. I have a screensaver configured to kick in after 5 mins, and that works fine.

Re: Fedora 9 + Network Manager = Wireless NOT Connecting

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 14:56 -0400, Marc Ferguson wrote: The scan did pick up something for wifi0 and eth0. Does that mean that they are conflicting in some way? I don't think so. AFAIK the wifi0 is effectively a pseudo-interface on top of eth0. Something to do with how the kernel drivers are

Re: PGP signatures.

2008-05-29 Thread Björn Persson
Tim wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 16:29 +0100, Bill Crawford wrote: What do you do if you encounter a key that's signed by both someone you trust personally, *and* someone you don't trust? I suppose that would depend on whether that was: You didn't know whether to trust them, or you

Re: updating USB flash drive MBR to allow boot

2008-05-29 Thread Mick M.
In theory the livecd_to_usb program was supposed to make it bootable as part of the process. At least that is my understanding. JP Hi; as root do fdisk -l Insert stick. repeat fdisk -l The new entry is your stick - say sdc1. Now fdisk /dev/sdc - note drop the 1. p to show the

Re: problem with totem

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 15:25 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 12:24 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:11 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 11:29 +0530, Amitakhya Phukan wrote: hi all! totem has suddenly stopped its sound

Re: Yeah, I have desktop effects:

2008-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 01:48 +0530, das wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:15:02 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to learn your net jargon :-) Other common acronyms on mailing lists (and increasingly elsewhere as well): Is it Mailing list -- and increasingly

f9: x86_64: Missing C++ runtime support for g++ (/usr/bin/g++).

2008-05-29 Thread Dario Lesca
Hi, I try to rebuild hylafax on F9/x86_64, I have installer this package: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum list |grep -i '++' bonnie++.x86_64 1.03a-9.fc9installed compat-gcc-34-c++.x86_64 3.4.6-9installed

Re: f9: x86_64: Missing C++ runtime support for g++ (/usr/bin/g++).

2008-05-29 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:37:18AM +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: Compilation of the following test program failed: -- #include iostream.h int main(){ cout Hello World! endl; return 0;}

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
scm in seattle writes: Hi Rex, yum repolist shows: Fedora - Rawhide... My own doing surely while looking for some other package I required. I guess it's time to rebuild the installation, unless you have any other suggestions on how to recover this mess. Thanks for your help. Well, it

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