Re: Hello hello

2008-08-12 Thread VaraPrasad Pepakayala
Evangeline McGlynn wrote: Greetings Fedora Art group, My name is Eve McGlynn and I am hoping to join the Fedora Art group. A little bit about myself: my formal background is in cartography, which focuses a lot more on design than some people realize (though others are suspicious of the

Re: [Echo] Preferences-system-users draft

2008-08-12 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Using Nicu's chibi model, here is a variation of all size excluding 256x256 Luya http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/applications/ inline: preferences-system-users16a.pnginline: preferences-system-users32a.png___ Fedora-art-list mailing list

Re: [PATCH] make authtype a config option

2008-08-12 Thread Mike Bonnet
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 22:54 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: the attached patch adds a config option that can be in a config file or on the command line forcing the use of one authentication type. it is useful if a hub supports more than one authentication type. or using different hubs that

Font subsetting is patented?

2008-08-12 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Seems to me this way: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6252671/description.html But IANAL... ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list

Asana-Math: close but no cigar

2008-08-12 Thread Vasile Gaburici
It's nice to see that the first ( only?) FOSS OpenType math font, (and by that I mean one that has a math script, like Cambria Math), has been added to rawhide. But the font is currently useless in Fedora, because (i) our XeTeX is too old, and (ii) the unicode-math XeLaTeX package is not

Re: Asana-Math: close but no cigar

2008-08-12 Thread Vasile Gaburici
The STIX fonts do **NOT** currently have the math OpenType script. What this means is that they have nice collection of glyphs, but no special layout features, so they're pretty useless for actually typesetting something with them. The math script, aka MATH table, is a MS extension to OpenType. MS

Re: Asana-Math: close but no cigar

2008-08-12 Thread Vasile Gaburici
It turns out that STIX beta fonts have a modicum of MATH table (it didn't occur to me check), but not math script support. Because of the MATH table, STIXGeneral gets recognized as math font in Office 2007, but it doesn't really work; as soon as you type anything, you get Cambria Math instead.

Re: Asana-Math: close but no cigar

2008-08-12 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Unlike Office 2007, XeTeX checks if a font contains the math script, not the MATH table to decide whether it will work or not for Unicode math. So with STIX it complains: Package fontspec Warning: Font STIXGeneral/ICU at 12.0pt does not contain script 'Math' And predictably, it doesn't work:

Re: Public demo of amber and eventual production instance

2008-08-12 Thread Robin Norwood
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:07:41 -0400 Robin Norwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second, Fedora Applications/Amber is eventually going to need an actual production server ready around the Fedora 10 release date. I'd like to get to the point where I can make a formal request for aforementioned

Tasks and followup

2008-08-12 Thread Paul W. Frields
Apologies for this being an idea with no code attached. I'm hoping that some of the able folks are on this list and will see something achievable. Something the Community Architecture folks and I have discovered is that when we sign up new folks for an account, there's not any way to mark them

Re: Tasks and followup

2008-08-12 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 15:52 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: Apologies for this being an idea with no code attached. I'm hoping that some of the able folks are on this list and will see something achievable. Something the Community Architecture

Re: Tasks and followup

2008-08-12 Thread Luke Macken
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 08:33:32PM +, Paul W. Frields wrote: Apologies for this being an idea with no code attached. I'm hoping that some of the able folks are on this list and will see something achievable. Something the Community Architecture folks and I have discovered is that

Re: Public demo of amber and eventual production instance

2008-08-12 Thread Nigel Jones
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 13:23 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Robin Norwood wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:07:41 -0400 Robin Norwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second, Fedora Applications/Amber is eventually going to need an actual production server ready around the

Re: Public demo of amber and eventual production instance

2008-08-12 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2008-08-13 12:29:55 PM, Nigel Jones wrote: Surely it'd be better suited as 'amber.fedoraproject.org', or something like that, hopefully I'll be back later today/tomorrow to help if needed. If it requires auth, we'll probably want it at admin.fedoraproject.org so that it can share cookies

Re: Public demo of amber and eventual production instance

2008-08-12 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Ricky Zhou wrote: On 2008-08-13 12:29:55 PM, Nigel Jones wrote: Surely it'd be better suited as 'amber.fedoraproject.org', or something like that, hopefully I'll be back later today/tomorrow to help if needed. If it requires auth, we'll probably want it at

Re: [Fwd: Re: Tasks and followup]

2008-08-12 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: --- Snips some cleanup --- We could create FAS groups for regions, sure. But there's also particular ambassadors to consider -- for example, an Ambassador who works on Websites might target a new signup for helping with Websites, even though that

Re: Public demo of amber and eventual production instance

2008-08-12 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2008-08-12 08:09:20 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: it is probably time to better describe what goes where and why. I'm fond of the admin.fedoraproject.org/blah/ for stuff. But if this is an application that end users will be using that doesn't seem quite right. Hmm, I wonder if this could lead

Re: Public demo of amber and eventual production instance

2008-08-12 Thread Robin Norwood
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:09:20 -0500 (CDT) Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Ricky Zhou wrote: On 2008-08-13 12:29:55 PM, Nigel Jones wrote: Surely it'd be better suited as 'amber.fedoraproject.org', or something like that, hopefully I'll be back later

Is Apache included with Fedora

2008-08-12 Thread Adil Drissi
Hi, I want to use Apache-Mysql-Php in my fedora 8. I did yum install apache the result was no package apache available but httpd is already installed. So i want to know if apache is installed in my machine under the name httpd or i have to download it myself. If it is already installed please

Re: Is Apache included with Fedora

2008-08-12 Thread Remi Collet
Adil Drissi a écrit : So i want to know if apache is installed in my machine under the name httpd or i have to download it myself. If it is already installed please tell me how to start it. Yes https is apache. ++ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Ogg Totem kill X

2008-08-12 Thread Steve Dowe
Hi, I have F9 with Totem and VLC installed. When I try to watch an ogg video from Red Hat's web site in Totem, the screen goes blank and I can hear my hard disk head park. I can't recover X from this - I have to hard reset the machine and boot back into the desktop. When I try the same

Re: Live USB-stick format

2008-08-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 04 August 2008 03:51, Bill Davidsen wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: I want F9 on a USB stick. It's 8GB, and comes with a few files concerned with using it on windows, so I don't really care whether they survive or not. Most of my hardware is not so young, and doesn't boot off usb

Re: Live USB-stick format

2008-08-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 08 August 2008 14:44, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: I want F9 on a USB stick. It's 8GB, and comes with a few files concerned with using it on windows, so I don't really care whether they survive or not. Most of my hardware is not so young, and doesn't boot off

Re: Xvfb - desperate -- help needed...

2008-08-12 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Ric Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 22:57 -0700, Tod Merley wrote: but I gotta have the X11 applications features enabled (thus Xvfb) Hi Ric! The little I know of virtual frame buffers is that they are used to test hardware

Re: Stripes on screen after installing Fedora

2008-08-12 Thread Björn Persson
Tim wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 19:17 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: In my Fedora 9 system it's /etc/xorg.conf. Not here. How odd. Maybe it depends on how the file is initially created? That sounds more like you've moved it out of the way. I would have known if I had done that. Is it

Re: Is Apache included with Fedora

2008-08-12 Thread Björn Persson
Adil Drissi wrote: I want to use Apache-Mysql-Php in my fedora 8. I did yum install apache the result was no package apache available but httpd is already installed. So i want to know if apache is installed in my machine under the name httpd or i have to download it myself. If it is already

Re: Is Apache included with Fedora

2008-08-12 Thread Bill Crawford
Yes, but the important point is that he wouldn't have known the background to the rename, which was The Apache project isn't just a web server. Could try yum search apache but that will return several other things (I get several hundred lines of output). 2008/8/12 Björn Persson [EMAIL

Ubuntu v Fedora on an Inspiron

2008-08-12 Thread jeffrey . berger
[was Re: burning iso image on a Mac] I'm just starting to play around with Linux. A couple of days ago, I installed Ubuntu on my Inspiron 7500. When I switch from one application to another by clicking (say) on a Firefox window when Help is in the foreground, it takes many seconds before

How to patch Fedora Core 2 Bind RPM?

2008-08-12 Thread John Smith
I have a Fedora Core 2 box that is running BIND 9.2.3-13 and I want to update to the latest patch due to the DNS issue. How can I upgrade my RPM install? Is there an RPM that is independent of the Fedora OS? Or is it possible to compile and use the patch installed from source overtop my RPM?

Re: How to patch Fedora Core 2 Bind RPM?

2008-08-12 Thread Mark Haney
John Smith wrote: I have a Fedora Core 2 box that is running BIND 9.2.3-13 and I want to update to the latest patch due to the DNS issue. How can I upgrade my RPM install? Is there an RPM that is independent of the Fedora OS? Or is it possible to compile and use the patch installed from source

Re: How to patch Fedora Core 2 Bind RPM?

2008-08-12 Thread John Smith
Do you mean build the source and install it overtop the RPM or do you mean uninstall the RPM then build and install from source... On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Smith wrote: I have a Fedora Core 2 box that is running BIND 9.2.3-13 and I want to

Re: How to patch Fedora Core 2 Bind RPM?

2008-08-12 Thread Michael Weiner
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Smith wrote: I have a Fedora Core 2 box that is running BIND 9.2.3-13 and I want to update to the latest patch due to the DNS issue. How can I upgrade my RPM install? Is there an RPM that is independent of the Fedora

Re: How to patch Fedora Core 2 Bind RPM?

2008-08-12 Thread James Kosin
John Smith wrote: I have a Fedora Core 2 box that is running BIND 9.2.3-13 and I want to update to the latest patch due to the DNS issue. How can I upgrade my RPM install? Is there an RPM that is independent of the Fedora OS? Or is it possible to compile and use the patch installed from

Re: How to patch Fedora Core 2 Bind RPM?

2008-08-12 Thread Mark Haney
John Smith wrote: Do you mean build the source and install it overtop the RPM or do you mean uninstall the RPM then build and install from source... Please, don't top post, it's hard to keep track of what I've said. No, it means get the latest source RPM for bind:

Re: Live USB-stick format

2008-08-12 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Anne Wilson wrote: Mikkel, I'm away from home and from the laptop I used to do the install, so I can't examine the history to find out. Mounting the drive in a running system shows all the expected directories under /media/Z Mate 8GB/DaneElec, and as you will see in my reply to Bill, fdisk

Re: How to patch Fedora Core 2 Bind RPM?

2008-08-12 Thread John Smith
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Smith wrote: Do you mean build the source and install it overtop the RPM or do you mean uninstall the RPM then build and install from source... Please, don't top post, it's hard to keep track of what I've said. No,

Re: Fedora 8 and VMware Server

2008-08-12 Thread Gene Poole
My mistake on the lack of details. I am attempting to use the tar.gz format of the vmware server 1.0.6.91891. To be exact, the install works, it's the configuration that aborts at the vmmon creation step. I tried a new test and found the following: 1. On a machine running the 32-bit

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Ed Greshko
Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote: I need to install a few new systems in the next few weeks. My requirements are: apache; C++ code development; netfilter; KDE; openvpn; and above all, stability. I have heard a rumor that I might be better off with F8 than F9. Is this true? The answer is either

how to decrease timeout when enter wrong password

2008-08-12 Thread michael
Peeps, any thoughts on the below? Ta, M On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:59 +0100, michael wrote: I've tried and tried but failed and failed to determine where the setting is for the delay post wrong user/pass at the gdmgreeter screen. It current seems about 90 secs which is a bit too long (I'd be

Re: time/ntp[d]

2008-08-12 Thread Todd Denniston
michael wrote, On 08/11/2008 07:46 AM: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 11:15 -0400, Todd Denniston wrote: michael wrote, On 08/07/2008 10:47 AM: On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 15:40 -0400, Todd Denniston wrote: SNIP BTW assuming ntpd is still running it might be interesting to run date \ ntpdate -d

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Mark Haney
Ed Greshko wrote: The answer is either yes, no, or maybe. And you get 10 points for asking one of the silliest questions I've seen asked her in quite some time. Why is it silly? I think it's personally a good one to ask especially where stability is concerned. We all know F9 is

RE: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Arch Willingham
It sounded like a reasonable question to me. Who knows if this guy is new to this group (or even Linux) but non-friendly answers are a good way to send a newbie packing (and perpetuate the rumor that Linux is non-friendly to a new user). Mike...in the FWIW department, I have F9 running on 12

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Tom Horsley
I need to install a few new systems in the next few weeks. My requirements are: apache; C++ code development; netfilter; KDE; openvpn; and above all, stability. I have heard a rumor that I might be better off with F8 than F9. Is this true? I'm still running F8 as my primary system because

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 14:05 +, Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote: I need to install a few new systems in the next few weeks. My requirements are: apache; C++ code development; netfilter; KDE; openvpn; and above all, stability. I have heard a rumor that I might be better off with F8 than F9.

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Christopher Mocock
Tom Horsley wrote: since the release. My main blocker with F9 now is that I haven't yet figured out how to rip pulseaudio out and get alsa functioning again. I've never managed to get pulse-audio working (although TBH I haven't tried very hard), so I just do a yum remove pulse* and that's

Re: Ubuntu v Fedora on an Inspiron

2008-08-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 07:32 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [was Re: burning iso image on a Mac] I'm just starting to play around with Linux. A couple of days ago, I installed Ubuntu on my Inspiron 7500. When I switch from one application to another by clicking (say) on a Firefox window

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Russell Miller
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:05 AM, Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to install a few new systems in the next few weeks. My requirements are: apache; C++ code development; netfilter; KDE; openvpn; and above all, stability. I have heard a rumor that I might be better off

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Russell Miller
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Christopher Mocock [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Tom Horsley wrote: since the release. My main blocker with F9 now is that I haven't yet figured out how to rip pulseaudio out and get alsa functioning again. I've never managed to get pulse-audio working (although

Re: Idle thoughts or question re: dual booting and grub default !?

2008-08-12 Thread William Case
Thanks once again Mikkel; On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 17:51 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: William Case wrote: Hi; If you don't boot Windows often, and you normally want to boot Linux the next time you boot after running Windows, you could try Booting once-only setup in Grub. This is

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:25:31 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote: I need to install a few new systems in the next few weeks. My requirements are: apache; C++ code development; netfilter; KDE; openvpn; and above all, stability. I have heard a rumor that I might be better

Re: Live USB-stick format

2008-08-12 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Mikkel, I'm away from home and from the laptop I used to do the install, so I can't examine the history to find out. Mounting the drive in a running system shows all the expected directories under /media/Z Mate 8GB/DaneElec, and as you will see

Re: F8: how to enable wpa-supplicant at boot from network scripts?

2008-08-12 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jurgen Kramer wrote: Hi, I want to replace my cable based network on my F8 based MyhtTV mediacenter with a wireless one. I already managed to configure wpa-supplicant properly. When I start it by hand it works nicely. The next step is to make it run using the network scripts, what do I need to

Re: encrypted swap question

2008-08-12 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mike C wrote: Bill Davidsen davidsen at tmr.com writes: Better in what way? I think either case gets you out of typing a 2nd LIKS password. Using /dev/urandom seems to avoid having a password where anyone could ever recover it, and I think using LUKS on swap will kill suspend in either case

Re: Fedora 8 and VMware Server

2008-08-12 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
Gene Poole wrote: My mistake on the lack of details. I am attempting to use the tar.gz format of the vmware server 1.0.6.91891. To be exact, the install works, it's the configuration that aborts at the vmmon creation step. Yes, I ran into this on F9 x86_64. I'm using the RPMs from

Re: F9 and nVidia Quadro NVS 140 M

2008-08-12 Thread Chris Snook
Matthew Saltzman wrote: Is anyone running this combination with either the nv driver or the binary nvidia driver? Are there any issues--in particular with suspend or hibernate and resume? I have a ThinkPad T61 with this card. I'd like to know before I upgrade that I will still be able to

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Robert Locke
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 08:05 -0700, Russell Miller wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:05 AM, Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to install a few new systems in the next few weeks. My requirements are: apache; C++ code development; netfilter; KDE;

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Russell Miller wrote: You know, those on this list may beat me up for this, but if you're looking for stability and least fuss, I'd suggest CentOS instead. As someone else pointed out, Fedora is for people who want to get their hands dirty and try out the bleeding edge - and it doesn't

Fixing or removing NetworkManager ??

2008-08-12 Thread William Case
Hi; Last week I was messing around with my network and Internet connections and managed to break NeteworkManager. See thread Messed up my ISP/Networkmanager connection !? Aug 5. Since I couldn't get it fixed, I stopped and disabled the NetworkManager service. I now find that many of my gnome

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 08:05 -0700, Russell Miller wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:05 AM, Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to install a few new systems in the next few weeks. My requirements are: apache; C++ code development; netfilter; KDE;

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Christopher Mocock
Russell Miller wrote: It might bea permissions problem... I found that by changing the ownership on the alsa device files to root:pulse-rt and adding your local user to pulse-rt, it started working. Someone is insisting that's not a bug, which does not make me happy. Thanks. I did try

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Christopher Mocock wrote: Russell Miller wrote: It might be permissions problem... I found that by changing the ownership on the alsa device files to root:pulse-rt and adding your local user to pulse-rt, it started working. Someone is insisting that's not a bug, which does not make me

Re: Live USB-stick format

2008-08-12 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Bill Davidsen wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Mikkel, I'm away from home and from the laptop I used to do the install, so I can't examine the history to find out. Mounting the drive in a running system shows all the expected directories under /media/Z Mate 8GB/DaneElec,

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Em Ter 12 Ago 2008, Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED escreveu: I need to install a few new systems in the next few weeks. My requirements are: apache; C++ code development; netfilter; KDE; openvpn; and above all, stability. I have heard a rumor that I might be better off with F8 than F9. Is this

Re: Re: Fedora 8 and VMware Server

2008-08-12 Thread Gene Poole
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Yes, I ran into this on F9 x86_64. I'm using the RPMs from VMWare. I had to go out and get the latest vmware-any-any-update. I think I found version for 116, 117, and 117a. In order to get it running on my laptop. My laptop came with VMWare already

Re: Ubuntu v Fedora on an Inspiron

2008-08-12 Thread Ric Moore
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 07:32 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [was Re: burning iso image on a Mac] I'm just starting to play around with Linux. A couple of days ago, I installed Ubuntu on my Inspiron 7500. When I switch from one application to another by clicking (say) on a Firefox window

Re: To mount or not to mount, that's the question!

2008-08-12 Thread Markku Kolkka
Daniel B. Thurman kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika tiistai, 12. elokuuta 2008): I am a bit confused. I have a small audio/video collection and it is placed in an NTFS file-system on a secondary disk, and I noticed that it is fusefs mounted into the /media directory. The problem for me, is

Re: Xvfb - desperate -- help needed... FIXED!!

2008-08-12 Thread Ric Moore
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 06:30 -0300, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Ric Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 22:57 -0700, Tod Merley wrote: but I gotta have the X11 applications features enabled (thus Xvfb)

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 12 August 2008 19:54, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: Em Ter 12 Ago 2008, Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED escreveu: I need to install a few new systems in the next few weeks. My requirements are: apache; C++ code development; netfilter; KDE; openvpn; and above all, stability. I have

Re: Stripes on screen after installing Fedora

2008-08-12 Thread Ric Moore
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 12:04 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: Tim wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 19:17 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: In my Fedora 9 system it's /etc/xorg.conf. Not here. How odd. Maybe it depends on how the file is initially created? That sounds more like you've moved it out

Re: Creating a local repository

2008-08-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 22:07:49 -0400, Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I know that someday I will get the command line too long message, and decided to create a repository. And it looks as if the While you might still want to do this, you probably won't be getting the

Re: f9 kerneloops

2008-08-12 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 09:52 -0700, David L wrote: I noticed my f9 system was slow and checked CPU usage with top. top showed a process called kerneloops sucking 98% of the CPU. Is this normal? If not, what is one supposed to do to provide debugging info? Exactly the same thing happened to

FC9 installation sees SATA drives but not PATA

2008-08-12 Thread Stephen Soliday
I want to install FC9 in place of my old Debian 4 I have one PATA three SATA hard drives and a SATA DVD-RW on a ASUS N1L64-SLI WS motherboard with the 0505 bios release IDE: /dev/hda1ntfs Windows vista boot /dev/hda2linux-swap /dev/hda3reiserfsdebian / SATA: /dev/sda1

Re: FC9 installation sees SATA drives but not PATA

2008-08-12 Thread Seann Clark
Stephen Soliday wrote: I want to install FC9 in place of my old Debian 4 I have one PATA three SATA hard drives and a SATA DVD-RW on a ASUS N1L64-SLI WS motherboard with the 0505 bios release IDE: /dev/hda1ntfs Windows vista boot /dev/hda2linux-swap /dev/hda3reiserfs

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 12 August 2008 19:54, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: Em Ter 12 Ago 2008, Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED escreveu: I need to install a few new systems in the next few weeks. My requirements are: apache; C++ code

Re: Ubuntu v Fedora on an Inspiron

2008-08-12 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I doubt the problem you're seeing is related to Ubuntu specifically. It's more likely a configuration problem e.g. with the X drivers, or perhaps you're using Compiz and your video hardware isn't up to it. Or maybe

Re: Fixing or removing NetworkManager ??

2008-08-12 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:55 AM, William Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shouldn't I be able to make commandline adjustments to network configurations (for ill or good) and still get NetworkManager to continue to operate, on my machine at least? If I made mistakes, shouldn't I, none-the-less,

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Ed Greshko
Mark Haney wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: The answer is either yes, no, or maybe. And you get 10 points for asking one of the silliest questions I've seen asked her in quite some time. Why is it silly? Basically because it doesn't have enough detail. It doesn't tell us what versions

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread John Patrick Poet
On Tuesday 12 August 2008 09:05:13 am Russell Miller wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:05 AM, Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to install a few new systems in the next few weeks. My requirements are: apache; C++ code development; netfilter; KDE; openvpn; and above

Problems running SH jobs using CRON

2008-08-12 Thread jeff goudie
Hi there, I have two SH jobs I've always run manually in the past and would like to have them run once a week automatically using cron.. I looked on the internet for examples of running SH jobs and used crontab -e to create this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jeff]# cat /var/spool/cron/root 45 12 * * 0

Re: Fixing or removing NetworkManager ??

2008-08-12 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jeff Spaleta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed the original thread detailing how you munched your NM config..ill need to go back and read it. But quick answer for now on how you can work around this until i understand how you screwed up your NM config: Okay

Re: Problems running SH jobs using CRON

2008-08-12 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:04:00 -0400, jeff goudie wrote: Hi there, I have two SH jobs I've always run manually in the past and would like to have them run once a week automatically using cron.. I looked on the internet for examples of running SH jobs and used crontab -e to create this:

Re: Problems running SH jobs using CRON

2008-08-12 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:04:00 -0400, jeff goudie wrote: Hi there, I have two SH jobs I've always run manually in the past and would like to have them run once a week automatically using cron.. I looked on the internet for examples of running SH jobs and used crontab -e

Re: Problems running SH jobs using CRON

2008-08-12 Thread Dave Burns
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:04 PM, jeff goudie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jeff]# cat /var/spool/cron/root 45 12 * * 0 root /bin/sh /home/jeff/jeffbkup.sh 11 3 * * 6 root /home/jeff/rsynchbkup.sh When each scheduled job fires off, I get an email from Cron_Daemon with this

Re: Problems running SH jobs using CRON

2008-08-12 Thread Aldo Foot
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Dave Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:04 PM, jeff goudie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jeff]# cat /var/spool/cron/root 45 12 * * 0 root /bin/sh /home/jeff/jeffbkup.sh 11 3 * * 6 root /home/jeff/rsynchbkup.sh When each

Re: F9 and nVidia Quadro NVS 140 M

2008-08-12 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 12:00 -0400, Chris Snook wrote: Matthew Saltzman wrote: Is anyone running this combination with either the nv driver or the binary nvidia driver? Are there any issues--in particular with suspend or hibernate and resume? I have a ThinkPad T61 with this card. I'd

Re: time/ntp[d]

2008-08-12 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 10:32 -0400, Todd Denniston wrote: The time-of-year (TOY)* or BIOS clock is THE hardware clock in MOST PC equipment, and yes it is usually backed up by a battery. I've seen some PCs where it's *only* run off the battery. i.e. There is no mains supplied power to the clock

Re: Problems running SH jobs using CRON

2008-08-12 Thread jeff goudie
Thanks for everbody's help! Both jobs ran after removing root as suggested. Thanks agan! On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Aldo Foot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Dave Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:04 PM, jeff goudie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

PAN Failure -- Help

2008-08-12 Thread MIKE - EMAIL IGNORED
I am talking to you from my laptop (running F8 and pan-0.132-2.fc8) because my desktop (running F7 and pan-0.131-1.fc7) suddenly stopped working. When I start pan (under KDE), its GUI flashes briefly and then disappears. Other things, including Firefox and Apache seem fine so far. Thanks for

Re: PAN Failure -- Help

2008-08-12 Thread Roger Heflin
MIKE - EMAIL IGNORED wrote: I am talking to you from my laptop (running F8 and pan-0.132-2.fc8) because my desktop (running F7 and pan-0.131-1.fc7) suddenly stopped working. When I start pan (under KDE), its GUI flashes briefly and then disappears. Other things, including Firefox and Apache

help on installing fedora 9 on external disk

2008-08-12 Thread Ravi
Hi , I am planning to install fedora 9 on my external USB hard disk. right now my laptop is having windows vista. how do I manage vista when i unplug my USB hard disk because grub will be stored on external hard disk. I have a dvd with fedora 9 to install fedora 9 I should

Re: PAN Failure -- Help

2008-08-12 Thread MIKE - EMAIL IGNORED
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:24:57 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: MIKE - EMAIL IGNORED wrote: I am talking to you from my laptop (running F8 and pan-0.132-2.fc8) because my desktop (running F7 and pan-0.131-1.fc7) suddenly stopped working. When I start pan (under KDE), its GUI flashes briefly and

Re: help on installing fedora 9 on external disk

2008-08-12 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Ravi writes: Hi ,      I am planning to install fedora 9 on my external USB hard disk. right now my laptop is having windows vista. how do I manage vista when i unplug my USB hard disk because grub will be stored on external hard disk.   I have a dvd with fedora 9

Re: help on installing fedora 9 on external disk

2008-08-12 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Ravi wrote: Hi , I am planning to install fedora 9 on my external USB hard disk. right now my laptop is having windows vista. how do I manage vista when i unplug my USB hard disk because grub will be stored on external hard disk. I have a dvd with fedora

Re: Fixing or removing NetworkManager ??

2008-08-12 Thread William Case
Hi Jeff; I would appreciate the help getting things back to normal. On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 15:05 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jeff Spaleta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed the original thread detailing how you munched your NM config..ill

Re: help on installing fedora 9 on external disk

2008-08-12 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: snip The advantages to this are that you do not touch the built in drive, and you can plug the USB drive into another computer and boot from it. That way, you can take your Linux drive with you and run it on most

Re: The assignment of numerical addresses for Domain Names ??

2008-08-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 21:54:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 21:20 -0400, William Case wrote: When ARIN (American Registry for Internet Numbers or one of its clients, or any other IANA RIR) assigns a /8, or /16 number and registers a new

Re: Sony videocam w/ USB

2008-08-12 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Davidsen wrote: snip Any thoughts on getting data out of this without huge loss of picture quality? have you considered 'dcraw'? http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/ - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates.

Re: Ubuntu v Fedora on an Inspiron

2008-08-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 13:49 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: There was an issue with firefox aggressively requesting a disk fsync to save state that appeared on linux late in the firefox 3 run up. Good catch. I'd forgotten about that one. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

[Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] Handle yum api change so that conditional dict has only package names, not objects.

2008-08-12 Thread Jesse Keating
This is to resolve RH bug #458803 --- imgcreate/yuminst.py |4 ++-- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/imgcreate/yuminst.py b/imgcreate/yuminst.py index a7b04b6..628b0cd 100644 --- a/imgcreate/yuminst.py +++ b/imgcreate/yuminst.py @@ -103,8 +103,8 @@ class

Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] Handle yum api change so that conditional dict has only package names, not objects.

2008-08-12 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 08:48 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote: This is to resolve RH bug #458803 This ends up breaking compatibility with older yum, which isn't really acceptable. Also, the right thing is to fix yum to *not* change its API/ABI -- not to adjust every caller to handle the fallout

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