Re: No more selinux-policy-*-sources

2006-03-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 15:13:15 +0100, Arjan van de Ven ar...@fenrus.demon.nl wrote: maybe it's time to accept that SELinux as technology is doomed. Not because the code is bad, but because it's Just Too Complex(tm). Complexity kills, and I think the time it is taking to get to the point

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:32:25 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: NVIDIA and ATI are the major use case for MDV (and, frankly, for RPM Fusion), so I came around to the view that it isn't really a good idea to have kmods or DKMS in Fedora; the major use case for them doesn't

Re: Proposal (and yes, I'm willing to do stuff!): Must Use More Macros

2009-06-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 10:31:23 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ScriptletSnippets it seems to me that this is a bit of a silly approach - it encourages cut and paste errors (or people cutting and pasting non-canonical blocks

Re: Rawhide moving on to Fedora 12 content

2009-06-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 09:02:11 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: They'll have access to the updates and updates-testing repo, just not the 'fedora' repo. It is a bit of an inconvenience for users for a few days. At the rate some mirrors sync, they'll probably be a public

Re: GRUB 2 in Ubuntu 9.10

2009-06-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 17:17:07 -0400, Jeremy Katz ka...@redhat.com wrote: we've been left in a position of maintaining it and we've added some real features that have been needed along the way as grub 2's progress has been slow at best and some of the design decisions early on were a I was

Re: Updates testing for F-11

2009-06-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 07:44:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 06/11/2009 07:39 AM, Bojan Smojver wrote: Bojan Smojver bojan at rexursive.com writes: Maybe I missed something, but it seems that some updates that have been submitted for F-11 testing are

Re: What I HATE about F11

2009-06-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 17:45:43 +1000, Michael Fleming mflem...@thatfleminggent.com wrote: I've done reinstalls and upgrades and not seen a denial AVC - I believe if it runs during the installer it would be a permissive / targeted mode. I did have SELinux break an upgrade but that was many

Re: What I HATE about F11

2009-06-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 20:08:31 +0200, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: enabled by default, like we currently do. If an application cannot be trusted then it should not be allowed to listen on a port by default in the first place. A firewall is an extra layer of security that

Re: Updates since June 3rd/4th?

2009-06-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 15:36:20 +0300, Axel Thimm axel.th...@atrpms.net wrote: Hi, maybe I missed some announcement somewhere, but there haven't been any updates in F10/F11 updates since more than 10 days. Am I looking at the wrong mirrors (including mine), or is there just a small hiatus

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12 (#2)

2009-06-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 23:00:38 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: My proposal is that we actually start to 'downgrade' x86, start compiling for baseline i386, and try to support people running Fedora on really old hardware, through projects like the Minimal Platform

Re: The Devel Sig Wiki

2009-06-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 13:25:26 +0100, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: I've had no further replies to: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-June/msg00036.html So can I take it nobody minds if I add my name to the sig

Re: rpm package with many files inside

2009-06-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 02:55:04 -0400, Jan Chadima jchad...@redhat.com wrote: I need to create rpm package with cca 50-100 tiny files inside. The whole tree is about 2-3GB binary data. Koji dies with error: Unable to create immutable header region. There are existing bug Fedora

Spins SIG could use some more active participants

2009-06-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
Our Spins SIG meetings have been pretty poorly attended recently (just nirik and I) and our Spins Wrangler for F11 has resigned from that position for F12. nirik does not have time to take a more active role and I want to limit my work in the Spins SIG to technical stuff and the Games Spin. I

autodownloader, live spins and packaging

2009-06-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I am the maintainer of the Live Games Spin and am looking for feedback on dealing with games (though this could apply to other types of packages as well) that have some of their content obtained using autodownloader. Currently I don't want to include games that can only be played using downloaded

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 19:18:42 -0600, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Currently, a number of folks (myself included) thinks that Fedora should have in their target demographic users who are new to Linux in general and Fedora in particular. The sort of people who read a review Yikes. I

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 03:38:11 +0200, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Seth Vidal wrote: Fedora contributors elected representatives. The word representative contains represent. You're supposed to represent the opinions of the people who elected you, not just your own.

Re: Suggestion re FESCO Ticket #170

2009-06-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 21:07:50 +0100, Mat Booth fed...@matbooth.co.uk wrote: It's a silly suggestion for a silly thread. I've never had the impression that Fedora was targeted toward the newbie user demographic. My MP3 swilling, DVD consuming former Windows using friends have mostly

Re: Dracut now has a wiki page in the Fedora wiki...

2009-07-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 10:43:34 +0100, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: but it's actually a lot less trouble to just do: tar xf dracut-$version.tar.bz2 which auto-detects the archive type. It's much easier to just let it be handled by autodetection, and only bother

Re: F-11 updates seem hosed today

2009-07-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 08:21:47 -0500, Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net wrote: Any word on this? I still don't seem to have anything on the mirror I sync from. . . See: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1531 Based on comments it looks like things should start

Re: Fit and Finish test day: batteries and suspend

2009-07-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 08:46:20 -0400, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 01:10:58PM +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: I'd really like to join in with this having experienced issues with suspend/resume with: * Dell Inspiron 9300 (using nvidia driver as

Re: How to RPM'ify Perl Modules

2009-07-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 09:29:46 -0400, Fulko Hew fulko@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to create an RPM (spec file) to package my Perl based product so that its easy to distribute and easy to add to a Fedora kickstart file, but I'm not too sure where to start. I've looked around and found

Re: No Frozen Rawhide

2009-07-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:57:13 -0400, Jarod Wilson ja...@redhat.com wrote: On Tuesday 21 July 2009 19:04:50 Jesse Keating wrote: I've done some updating to the no frozen rawhide proposal[1]. There is still time to enact this for Fedora 12, which would take effect when we reach Alpha

Re: No Frozen Rawhide

2009-07-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:36:38 -0400, Jarod Wilson ja...@redhat.com wrote: $ cd .../pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/ $ mv 12 ../ You actually want overlap for a while so that when rsyncing you can use hardlinks instead of having to redownload files you already have. This is going to be

Re: No Frozen Rawhide

2009-07-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 15:35:06 -0400, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:55:27AM -0700, Roland McGrath wrote: You actually want overlap for a while so that when rsyncing you can use hardlinks instead of having to redownload files you already have. This is

Re: Firewall rules using SELinux context (Was Re: RFE: FireKit)

2009-07-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 16:55:23 -0400, Steve Grubb sgr...@redhat.com wrote: I don't think I explained it well. I was thinking what if you had this rule: -A INPUT -Z cups_t -j ACCEPT and then cups was compromised and started listening on port 80. Since the above rule has no port

Re: Firewall rules using SELinux context (Was Re: RFE: FireKit)

2009-07-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 18:08:55 -0400, Simo Sorce sso...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 17:44 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: now if you allow to apply application labels to packets then you could say that packets directed to 8080 are labeled squid_t and not apache_t and that would

Re: Firewall rules using SELinux context (Was Re: RFE: FireKit)

2009-07-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 14:49:08 -0700, Roland McGrath rol...@redhat.com wrote: SECMARK. I sure didn't. I think I might now, sort of. The SELinux policy just says contexts, and it doesn't say anything about the port numbers. If you really just want to use local ports, that is available in

Re: Updated Fedora 12 Schedule (take 2)

2009-07-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 08:40:04 +0100, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: Constructive suggestion for the next cycle - we should go back to a shorter gap between Feature Freeze and GA. Isn't development for the N+2 release supposed to start at the branch point and not GA of N+1? I

Re: rawhide report: 20090727 changes

2009-07-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 23:56:41 +0100, Paul p...@all-the-johnsons.co.uk wrote: Hi, kernel-2.6.31-0.94.rc4.fc12 --- * Fri Jul 24 2009 Chuck Ebbert cebb...@redhat.com - Enable CONFIG_DEBUG_KOBJECT in debug kernels. (#513606) * Fri Jul 24 2009 Kristian

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 15:59:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: When you test this, please make sure to run version 0.9.16-4.test3 of PA and 2.27.5 of gnome-media at least. Both are still stuck in Koji, aren't in Rawhide yet. mirrors2.kernel.org already has the

Re: Lower Process Capabilities

2009-07-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 17:53:53 -0400, Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.com wrote: One simple alternative, sure to be unpopular with many, would be to patch the kernel to skip the low-numbered-port enforcement if SELinux is running in enforcing mode, and ship policies that do the right

Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 15:37:18 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 13:43 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: With all due respect to fedoraunity and you. To me it is a serious Fedora management and rel-eng mistake causing major harm to fedora's and RH's

Re: Updates lacking descriptions

2009-08-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:44:35 -0800, Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote: Ah..but project wide..is this place to have a quality enhancement discussion currently? Let me try to put this into perspective. This post started about 4 updates. How many updates have we pushed? What is our

Re: F12 to require i686, but which CPUs do not qualify?

2009-08-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 14:37:54 -0400, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Joachim (joachim.frie...@googlemail.com) said: Moreover, it is even pulled in by basic packages like gnome-games (!). Well, you know, if you want to play sudoku, you *need* a linear algebra package. ?

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 22:34:24 +0200, Aurelien Bompard gau...@free.fr wrote: I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take over: - glest glest-data -- 3D real time strategy game I'll try taking these. Glest is on the games spin and one way or another I'll need to

Re: Custom installation of Fedora

2009-08-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 16:13:28 -0700, Markus Kesaromous remotes...@live.com wrote: During fedora install, if the user selects a customized install rather than the default, the user has to manually click on each and every app in the selected group. This is horribly tedious. In the old

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 15:25:32 -0500, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 22:34:24 +0200, Aurelien Bompard gau...@free.fr wrote: I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take over: - glest glest-data -- 3D real time strategy game

Re: Some ideas/questions about yum

2009-08-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 15:29:50 +0300, Aioanei Rares scha...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, and speaking of anaconda, IMHO it should support DSL configuration when using asknetwork. DSL is popular these days. If you actually file an RFE bug about this you'll need to be more specific. There is

Re: Some ideas/questions about yum

2009-08-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 14:57:44 +0430, Hedayat Vatnakhah heda...@grad.com wrote: Now, some ideas: 3. AFAIK, currently yum's primary database file contains information about packages, and all of the files in directories such as /usr/bin and /usr/lib, so that it can resolve package and

Re: dracut error message with latest kernel

2009-09-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 07:36:11 -0500, Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote: Booting with newest kernel, get a message right at boot startup below... dracut warning: Theme charge not used/known/whatever. And I also see rd_plytheme=charge in grub as a kernel paramater. I am sure if I

Re: Asterisk - attached patch needed to enable build in Rawhide

2009-09-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 08:17:55 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote: Heh, see the latest builds in F-11/rawhide. The rawhide packages should be on the mirrors now, the F-11 build should be showing up shortly. I basically did the same thing as you. That's for doing those updates. I

Re: Graphics Test Week (ATI, NVIDIA and Intel graphics Test Days)

2009-09-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 14:26:06 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Tomorrow - 2009-09-09 - is ATI/AMD Radeon graphics card Test Day (1). Thursday - 2009-09-10 - is NVIDIA graphics card Test Day (2). And Friday - 2009-09-11 - is Intel graphics card Test Day (3). I am

Re: Introduction to a new SIG for creation of Live DVD

2009-09-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 09:31:48 -0700, John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote: Squashfs and lzma have been living together happily for years: http://www.squashfs-lzma.org/ Are you sure that squashfs in Fedora Project is not using lzma? The squashfs-tools srpm does not include the

Re: Deltarpm xz problem with PPC generated rpms?

2009-09-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 20:29:11 +0300, Jonathan Dieter jdie...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, forgot to mention, another option would be to sign the *uncompressed* data in an rpm, so if the compressed data was different, it wouldn't matter. Uncompressing hostile data isn't always a good idea. It

Re: Script to detect conflicting files in PATH within a yum repo (was Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi)

2009-09-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 21:10:16 -0400, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: But the original problem was a file level conflict. Is it ever valid for 2 packages to own the same file? Yes. At a minimum the file's contents has to be identical in the two packages. -- fedora-devel-list

Re: Real mail addresses in list postings and resulting **SPAM**

2009-09-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:52:33 +0200, Christoph Frieben christoph.frie...@googlemail.com wrote: Does anybody have a good idea how to avoid the appearance of real mail addresses in the body of postings to fedora-devel/test-list when people reply to an earlier message? Could additional

Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 17:37:18 +, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: Jesse Keating jkeating at redhat.com writes: Releng and QA are very small groups. The Fedora package set is extremely large. Over 8K packages. The rate of change is far too grate to provide second guessing over

Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 14:51:15 -0400, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: - Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: Bugs can include RFEs as well as actual brokeness. I don't think that really buys you anything. And a bad maintainer could just file an RFE for an upgrade and refer

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-10-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 19:00:12 +0200, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: So really, I see no practical argument against switching back to the Alpha/Beta/Preview naming (and reintroducing the old Alpha – again, as useless as it was in practice, the psychological impact on

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:15:06 +0100, Terry Barnaby ter...@beam.ltd.uk wrote: The graphics system in F11 is horribly broken for 3D, at least on Intel 845, ATI 200 and ATI 300 chipsets. Certainly the Blender program will not run on any of my computers (5 different graphics hardware

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 10:54:54 +0100, Terry Barnaby ter...@beam.ltd.uk wrote: Are you confident that F12 will make 3D usable under Linux on the majority of mainstream graphics cards ? It's not going to provide 3d for nvidia, though it is hoped that nouveau will be somewhat improved. Intel

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 14:05:22 +0100, I was just suggesting that a separate yum archive with the packages necessary to test the later graphics development code that will be in F12 could be made available for people to try out easily with their F11 systems. They can optionally try these. I

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:15:06 +0100, Terry Barnaby ter...@beam.ltd.uk wrote: The graphics system in F11 is horribly broken for 3D, at least on Intel 845, ATI 200 and ATI 300 chipsets. Certainly the Blender program will not run on any of my computers (5 different graphics hardware

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 09:35:23 +0100, Terry Barnaby ter...@beam.ltd.uk wrote: I totally agree with you on the QA issue. Maybe I am wrong, but I haven't seen any real set of tests to be performed on Fedora 3D graphics. I tried the ATI test day for graphics. On the 3D graphics side it said to

Packaging tips for sound?

2009-10-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I am wondering if there is any documentation on tips for packagers for helping them integrate sound features of their packages in Fedora. In my specific case the volume controls on glest are not affecting the volume in F12 and I am wondering where to start looking for infomation that may be

Re: Are packages w/o necessary kernel modules allowed?

2009-10-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 18:31:03 +0200, Why should we make peoples' lives harder getting the tools they need? Example: Somebody without the DAHDI Kernel Modules would probably not try to use the DAHDI Tools since he probably won't even know what it's good for. However It makes things easier

Re: Updates-testing (was: Re: thunderbird upgrade - wtf?)

2009-10-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 13:55:13 -0500, chasd ch...@silveroaks.com wrote: MySQL and PostgreSQL come to mind. Postgres isn't even updatable. You need to do dumps before doing the upgrade. So downgrades aren't too much worse than upgrades. (Though the new dumps might use new features that will

Re: Are packages w/o necessary kernel modules allowed?

2009-10-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 08:09:19 +0300, Axel Thimm axel.th...@atrpms.net wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:25:00PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 18:31:03 +0200, Why should we make peoples' lives harder getting the tools they need? Example: Somebody without

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 06:48:38 +1000, Dave Airlie airl...@redhat.com wrote: 2 months is too long for user apps maybe, for X.org or Mesa from what I can see for ever probably isn't long enough, its not a matter of how much time something spends in updates-testing its a matter of how many

Re: Updates-testing (was: Re: thunderbird upgrade - wtf?)

2009-10-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:51:20 -0500, chasd ch...@silveroaks.com wrote: Bruno Wolff III wrote: Postgres isn't even updatable. You need to do dumps before doing the upgrade. OK, maybe that isn't a good example then. However, using your comment, and turning my idea around

Re: Updates-testing

2009-10-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 19:17:13 +0200, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 15.10.2009 17:51, schrieb chasd: Postgres isn't even updatable. You need to do dumps before doing the upgrade. Yes, but you should make the dump

Re: Updates-testing

2009-10-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 14:16:13 +0200, Ralf Ertzinger fed...@camperquake.de wrote: Hi. On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:17:13 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote Yes, but you should make the dump with the dump utility of the new release to which you want to update. So version x.y+1 is unable to read

Did something happen to blobAndConquer?

2009-10-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
blobAndConquer seems to have dropped out of today's rawhide repo even though it is still tagged for dist-f12, f12-beta and f12-final. Are other people seeing this? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Did something happen to blobAndConquer?

2009-10-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 16:54:43 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote: On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: blobAndConquer seems to have dropped out of today's rawhide repo even though it is still tagged for dist-f12, f12-beta and f12-final

Re: Did something happen to blobAndConquer?

2009-10-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 17:25:36 -0500, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 16:54:43 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote: On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: blobAndConquer seems to have dropped out of today's rawhide

Re: [Test-Announce] 2009-10-20 Confined Users Test Day

2009-10-19 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 14:08:45 -0400, James Laska jla...@redhat.com wrote: I like the challenge! :) Thanks for taking the time to plan and prepare this test day. I've made some minor wiki modifications to the test day page. Would it make sense to create individual test case pages for

Re: Reminder: Tagging Policy for Fedora 12

2009-10-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 17:27:45 -0400, Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com wrote: This is just a reminder about the tagging policy for packages built for Fedora 12 past the development freeze. So is there some more example guidance with this? For example I have a new release of the game

Re: rpmnew files

2009-10-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 23:49:28 +0200, nodata l...@nodata.co.uk wrote: Hi, What's with the extra rpmnew files on an upgrade? It could be the hash change, depending on what you upgrading from and to. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: What does it mean package not tagged as an update candidate?

2009-10-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:26:06 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: I'm trying to create an update for a new package (mingw32-freeglut, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528892) in F-12, but I get the error below: $ make update [...] Creating a new

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:02:42 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: Yes, but it may happen before the bodhi stage, when we get autoqa working on post-build tests. This kind of check could happen at SCM commit time, package build time, or finally bodhi push time. Seems

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-23 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 14:18:23 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Two, it makes testing things a bit more complex. Those of us who like to test upcoming stuff in real use - i.e. on our main machines - will have to choose whether to test rawhide, in which case we'll have

Re: Fedora 12 Beta

2009-10-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 23:38:31 -0400, Jud Craft craft...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Yes. Development releases of Fedora have a large number of debugging stuff enabled. I really can't tell if you're joking. I

Re: Wi-Fi Question

2009-10-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:04:25 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 15:28 -0200, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: Yep, that feature isn't in kernels that old. I have the same problem with a Philco 1001 notebok (intel

Re: rawhide report: 20091030 changes

2009-10-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 13:16:03 -0400, Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: In case I get eaten by raptors (or someone else has to do this task in the future), here's the gory details: I don't think I need to know the gory details of you being eaten by raptors. --

What to do with package that wants to use sse?

2009-10-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I am working on packaging pagedgeometry and I noticed that when building on gcc it passes -msse which I am guessing says to use sse instructions. I think that even in F12 we can't assume these instructions are available. The package may gain a lot of benefit from using those instructions. (I

Re: What to do with package that wants to use sse?

2009-10-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 09:25:30 +0100, Nicolas Chauvet kwiz...@gmail.com wrote: -msse is fine for x86_64 and ia64 by default (but not for non-intel arches). The only way to have sse enabled on ix86 is for a library to be built twice, the provides the sse version in %{_libdir}/sse2. The

Re: What to do with package that wants to use sse?

2009-10-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 09:33:13 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 09:29 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: That is very useful information. It sounds like I will want to do this for this package, since enabling sse2 will turn on the sse instructions

Re: How to add upstream developer as a (co)maintainer of the existing application?

2009-10-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 20:31:16 +0300, Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com wrote: There is a package, already included in Fedora, and there is a friendly and active upstream developer, who wants to be a (co)maintainer of this app. (S)he doesn't maintain any packages in Fedora currently. So

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 15:59:07 +0530, Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote: hi, I've filed a bug[1] against wodim not burning dvds correctly. While browsing through another bug[2] on wodim, I came across this comment[3]. wodim is completely unmaintained since May 6th 2007, don't

Re: What to do with package that wants to use sse?

2009-11-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 09:43:30 -0500, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: Strictly, this is not true. Newer binutils has a feature called indirect functions that lets you do (logically, this is not what the syntax actually looks like): Can you point us to some documentation on this? Is

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 21:47:47 +0100, Denis Leroy de...@poolshark.org wrote: On 11/02/2009 07:18 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: That may be true, but since cdrecord is not shippable, it's a pretty vacuous truth. Out of curiosity, was that just because of the GPL2-CDDL mix ? Or was there

Re: help debugging segfault with alienarena 7.32

2009-11-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 16:12:40 -0500, Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/03/2009 03:23 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: Well, it turned out to be a lot more complicated than that. Alienarena uses OpenAL-soft, which dlopens portaudio if it is present. Portaudio is Are you able

Re: help debugging segfault with alienarena 7.32

2009-11-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 18:12:42 -0500, Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: Looks like alienarena defaults to ALSA. When I tell it to tell OpenAL-soft to use PulseAudio Software, it doesn't actually make any sound at all, even though PulseAudio sees the application trying to do so.

Re: source file audit - 2009-11-01

2009-11-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 17:18:16 -0700, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Here's attached another run of my sources/patches url checker. bruno:BADURL:glest_data_3.2.1.zip:glest-data I took over glest recently and hadn't had to worry about where the sources had come from yet. The next time

Re: source file audit - 2009-11-01

2009-11-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 11:06:14 -0700, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:57:42 -0600 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 17:18:16 -0700, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Here's attached another run of my sources/patches url checker

Re: source file audit - 2009-11-01

2009-11-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 20:59:12 +0100, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: The SourceURL Guidelines[0] mandate to use in this case http://downloads.sourceforge.net/glest/glest_data_3.2.1.zip instead of the dl.sf.net version. I made the change in CVS in the devel branch to help me

Re: GRUB2 In Fedora

2009-11-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 13:12:18 +0800, Liang Suilong liangsuil...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot, every helper. I am just so surprising that why grub2 in Fedora is 1.98 however the official version is 1.97. In fact grub2 in Fedora is older that official release. Why not follow the official

Re: GRUB2 In Fedora

2009-11-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 13:12:18 +0800, Liang Suilong liangsuil...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot, every helper. I am just so surprising that why grub2 in Fedora is 1.98 however the official version is 1.97. In fact grub2 in Fedora is older that official release. Why not follow the official

Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:21:59 +1100, Rodd Clarkson r...@clarkson.id.au wrote: Over the development cycle I couldn't get my system to boot, then I couldn't get X running, and then I couldn't keep it running and finally the ATI issues I and others were having were resolved. I think it is

Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:55:03 +0530, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hopefully Nouveau gets 3D support within a couple of releases as well. Getting rid of the biggest pain of proprietary drivers would be one giant step forward for Linux on the desktop. Yeah. While I

Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas - Constantine - New Name?

2009-11-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 08:02:15 -0800, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-) My keyboard has F13 next... F13 has to be named after Katz. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas - Constantine - New Name?

2009-11-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 18:40:24 +, Mat Booth fed...@matbooth.co.uk wrote: 2009/11/10 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-) My keyboard has F13 next... You *are* F13... Too many

Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 19:06:51 +1100, Bradley Baetz bba...@gmail.com wrote: All the people in the bug are complaining about this happening with /home - does someone with / encrypted want to turn off graphical boot and see if it affects that too? I boot in text mode all of the time and

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 13:11:03 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: Therefore, I'd like to identify remaining core font users, and remind them periodically their core font use is not good for their users or for Fedora. Is there any documentation on how to avoid this?

Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:15:47 -0500, Ray Strode halfl...@gmail.com wrote: Still unfortunate that no one ran into this issue a week earlier though. Well, I was testing it and not seeing it, so it wasn't hitting everyone not using graphical boots. I had 4 machines doing this until I lost a

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:40:26 -0800, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 09:01 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 13:11:03 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: Therefore, I'd like to identify remaining core

Re: F12-Beta-i686-Live has some bugs

2009-11-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 02:53:42 +, Ikem Krueger ikem.krue...@googlemail.com wrote: I booted from cd and I was left with a black screen. When I switched to a console, I got: render error detected, EIR: 0x0010 [drm:i915_handle_error] *ERROR* EIR stuck: 0x0010, masking I guess

Name of the 'chess' package

2009-11-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
We currently have a 3d chess game packaged as chess. I want to ask for fedora hosted space for it sop that we can be upstream for some modernization (with regard to ogre and gcc) changes. However it strikes me that the package name probably shouldn't have been 'chess' as that is a generic name.

Issue with F13 dracut/kernel/selinux

2009-11-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I just went to rawhide over the last day and am not able to boot into kernel 2.6.32-0.48.rc7.git1.fc13 unless selinux is disabled. (permissive isn't good enough). I can boot into my old kernel 2.6.31.5-127.fc12 which had a dracut generated image from before the upgrade. The error occurs when udev

Re: Name of the 'chess' package

2009-11-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:36:02 -0600, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: We currently have a 3d chess game packaged as chess. I want to ask for fedora hosted space for it sop that we can be upstream for some modernization (with regard to ogre and gcc) changes. However it strikes me

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