Christoph Höger wrote:
I somehow broke my ATX 4P 12V Power Socket from my mb.
Here's my question: Is there any hope to get such a socket as a
replacement part somewhere and try if repluging would help?
The problem is not so much difficulty finding the part. The problem
is going to be removing
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
I use an old but working version of Fedora.
Your ancient version (ALSA library 1.0.3a? WTF??? The oldest still supported
release is Fedora 9 which has 1.0.17 in updates!) is no longer supported,
you have to upgrade. You can't expect to get help
stan wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:22:59 -0500
Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
$ cat /etc/modules.conf
# I2C module options
alias char-major-89 i2c-dev
#options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7 dma=3
options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7
When I looked at my file, I realized I've been
stan wrote:
Thanks for replying again!
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:27:21 -0500
Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
stan wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:22:59 -0500
When I looked at my file, I realized I've been giving you bad
information. The file in /etc is modprobe.conf
Tony Asnicar wrote:
I know...google...BUT:
Does someone has good howtos, docs, descriptions, opinions in forums, or
similar things about IPv6 and related things?
I just think it would be a very good idea to collect some links about it...
Regards, and thank you in anticipation
Please stop
Partha Chowdhury wrote:
Thanks for the reply!
[...]
now the shot in the dark- if the OP runs the fedora 11 and removes
pulseaudio, the sound may work as it will contain the latest stable
alsa.
I don't use FC11, and I don't have pulseaudio. The software config
worked fine with the previous
stan wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:45:04 -0500
Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Anyone have any suggestions? I sure need some.
Mike
These are instructions about your chip from the latest alsa driver
snapshot. That snapshot is available here:
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux
stan wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:33:21 -0500
Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I've downloaded, untarred, and am reading.
So far, I don't see anything, but there's a lot there.
Thanks for the reply.
You want to look in the directory alsa-kernel
stan wrote:
Thanks for the reply again. I'm leaving for the weekend in just a bit,
so this will be my last message this week. However, I'll be back on
Monday, and I trow the sound card won't start working on its own. :-)
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:07:21 -0500
I noticed that the card has a built-in
First, thanks for taking the time to read this. Sorry it's
longish, but I wanted to report what I've tried and what's
in there.
I use an old but working version of Fedora.
My motherboard recently fried its keyboard and video ports
for unknown reasons. I installed the discs into another machine,
gmspro wrote:
Hi,
[...]
But there is one thing about linux is that NO VIRUS IN LINUX.
What would you say?
I say that you haven't heard of the Internet Worm. Linux,
basically being a clone of UNIX, might have succombed to
that one, I suspect. Almost certainly BSD would have. Since
Linux
Gerhard Magnus wrote:
I recently had to deal with my ISP about a connectivity problem that
turned out to be on their end. (The tech referred to linux as lie-nux
If you insist on correct pronunciation then you should pronounce
it lee-nooks to rhyme with free kooks. If you say linnux then you
Anne Wilson wrote:
Isn't it unusual to connect the modem to the DSL socket on the router? The
No, it is not. One should always use the WAN connection, and not the LAN
connection, to take advantage of the firewall in the router.
only time I've set up one where I had to use the supplied modem
Robert L Cochran wrote:
I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the most
dependable way to do this? Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or ext4 or
some other filesystem effectively destroy the existing data?
Is there free software that can write zeroes or some form of
Paul Smith wrote:
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote:
I have recorded some data DVD some time ago. Now, I am trying to copy
them to my hard disk, but I am always getting an
'input/output error'.
Any ideas?
Maybe the following helps to identify the problem:
Andrew Jamison wrote:
lol the drive is reporting as failing because of 2 bad sectors when I
can afford to it shall be replaced but can not afford a new drive at
present maybe next month
I'm not so sure. I'm not a SMART expert, but I suspect that the
drive is reporting that it has two sectors
Paul Smith wrote:
Thanks, Aldo and Mike. I have used the same DVD disk in a different
computer running Fedora, and no problem. Perhaps, my driver is faulty.
Could just need cleaning, but usually this results inability
to read any disc, not just particular ones. Also, the disc
might be
Paul Smith wrote:
Thanks, Aldo and Mike. I have used the same DVD disk in a different
computer running Fedora, and no problem. Perhaps, my driver is faulty.
Maybe this is too too obvious to suggest, but I recommend making
a separate copy of that data as soon as may be.
Mike
--
William M. Quarles wrote:
OK, this PC is playing mean tricks on me. The past 10 times I've tried
to boot it, the boot has failed, and also, the keyboard stops responding
(so CtrlAltanything doesn't work). This thing is behaving very
inconsistently, because it just did a successful boot and I
g wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Script typo. Try this:
find /etc -type file | xargs grep -l '/dev/nul[^l]'
should that be -type f ?
A more interesting characteristic is that it requires that there
be a character following /dev/nul. IME redirection
is often the last thing on the line
Mike
Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
why not contribute with fedora and rpmfusion ?
the only reason to fedora doesn't have LTS is the man power.
There used to be a Fedora Legacy which had similar goals, and
which failed partially because of lack of people willing to
donate time, and partially because
I've seen various recommendations for adding swap files after
system creation, and it occurs to me that the standard technique
may not be the most efficient. I realize that one rarely creates
swap files, but nonetheless on occasion one needs to precreate
some file or other, then do something to
Beartooth wrote:
[...]
I had noticed a new problem with the pix, but hadn't thought to
check for it with FEBE : a lot of files a/o folders would show up in
nautilus with a padlock emblem. Lo and behold, the extension folders, and
some others, were littered all over with those blasted
Tim wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 17:29 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
What is intolerable, as Arthur says, is that it should be turned on by
default, but even that isn't a licensing issue but a privacy one.
Ever more, there's just cause for having a setup wizard for the first
run of the
Steve Hill wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Joel Rees wrote:
That would be, I'm assuming, that you have bought the product and have
some sort of license thereby to use it?
If you have acquired a product (e.g. bought it from a shop, downloaded
it, etc) then you do not need a licence to use it. I
Steve Hill wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008, Joel Rees wrote:
Did you read it?
Yep.
Some apps show you a EULA for the GPL when they install. And if you
can7t agree to the GPL, you can click disagree and refrain from
installing.
The GPL is not an EULA - the end user is not required to agree to
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:44:55AM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
For instance, a license that says:
you may not use this software for larceny
*IS*NOT* Free Software.
Then ISTM that whoever releases software which patently
could be used for criminal purposes
Lately I've been getting messages sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm subscribed to fedora-list@redhat.com, and it seems that
some send to something, and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is forwarding it to the list. What gives?
Mike
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Oppose
Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
Konstantin Svist wrote:
I have an old laptop (AMD K6 400MHz) that refuses to install Fedora 8.
I had no trouble installing Fedora 7 on a K6-2 500 that I have here.
I've tried Live KDE CD - that failed to boot because it's for i686 only.
At least it says the CPU is
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
jdow wrote:
If this can be done once in an initial install situation it can be done
again in an update situation using the same mechanism.
One way is to download the stuff from Red Hat's site itself,
and trust that no one has managed to intercept
Tony Molloy wrote:
Hi,
I've just installed Fedora-9 on a lab of Dell OptiPlex 745 (SFF) machines. (
only in 1 lab TG )
After running firstboot when I went to reboot the machines they just hang and
I had to do a hard reboot. I thought this was a minor glitch and ignored it.
Now however
jdow wrote:
Suppose Fedora generates a new key. They can get it out there by putting
it on their website, in an update RPM, and in plain textual format in
the primary download sites. Then I as a user either trust that or find
I have to take a trip to somebody's office I know is authoritative
Craig White wrote:
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 15:07 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
This is
why /etc/sysconfig/desktop is not a candidate for the job.
So how come it works for me and apparently many other people?
I'm under the impression that settings in /etc/sysconfig/desktop...
M. Fioretti wrote:
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 01:33:32 AM -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
Most printers have a Test or Demo mode that can be activated by, for
[...]
Very good suggestion, I had completely forgotten about test modes,
thanks. With that model, it turns out that you have to press and hold
Tim wrote:
Chris Tyler:
OTOH, I can't see why you'd avoid LVM these days in most
configurations. It's very stable, adds only very tiny overhead,
Does it have repair tools yet? Back when I first considered it,
recovering lost files, etc., from it seemed like it would be much more
[...]
Craig White wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 14:22 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 20:35 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Can't one just edit /etc/sysconfig/desktop ,
or doesn't that work any more?
It does work and has been mentioned here several times in the past. Note
that
Craig White wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 18:46 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 16:36 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 14:22 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 20:35 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Can't one just
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 20:18 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
$ rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/fstab
file /etc/fstab is not owned by any package
# rpm -qf /etc/fstab
setup-2.6.14-1.fc9.noarch
# rpm -qf /etc/sysconfig
filesystem-2.4.13-1.fc9.x86_64
#
$ rpm -qf /etc/fstab
file
Jameson wrote:
On 9/3/08, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Jameson wrote:
Does anyone know why the InDependance package hasn't been maintained in so
long? It's used to automagically determine rpm build dependencies. Am I
missing a better way to do
M. Fioretti wrote:
Hi,
I recently got this used HP Deskjet 895Cxi printer, connected it to PC
running FC8 and it's worked fine until yesterday. This morning it
started to behave strangely.
I also use an HP DeskJet 895Cxi.
I am working on an 8 page document in OpenOffice. When I tried to
Dan Track wrote:
Hi
Guess no one has this type of problem. I'm curious how do you guys
then manage all your servers and network devices? Do you memorise the
hostnames or ip addresses and ssh or telnet in every time you need log
in?
Is there something fundamental I'm missing?
Mostly, the
James Wilkinson wrote:
I wrote:
into ~/.inputrc , and log in again, completion should be disabled.
You'll also have disabled the rest of the settings in /etc/inputrc: you
might like to either copy them across, or try putting
$include /etc/inputrc
into ~/.inputrc .
Mike McCarty replied:
Hmm
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 11:47 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
[...]
I agree heartily. I suggest that the non-technical/political aspects
be reserved for another group, like Fedora-Advocacy or sth similar.
You don't want to lean about your distro's heritage, backgrounds
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 10:38 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
[...]
I first encountered Richard Stallman
in 1986, and we exchanged several e-mails about his ideas
at the time.
Then you're better off not using open source software and to quit using
Linux.
I'll bear your
Mike McCarty wrote:
[deleted /dev]
Well, I boot a rescue disc, and copy off what was the original
real / onto another disc, and then start to ponder. I need help!
[...]
# cd /media/hda5
# mv dev dev_save
# rsync -a /dev .
# shutdown -r now
System now boots and runs. Mailer works fine
Mike McCarty wrote:
My printer is also gone. I need help rebuilding my /dev directory.
Can anyone help?
Mike
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p=p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);};main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}
Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN.
This message made from 100% recycled bits.
You have found
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
[deleted /dev]
What version of Fedora? With any version with udev, there is the
No, no udev. This is FC2.
The rest of your commentary seems directed at the presence of
udev, which I don't have.
Sometimes I have to mount
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
[deleted /dev]
What version of Fedora? With any version with udev, there is the
During boot, I see two errors pop up...
/etc/rc5.d/S--... /dev/cpu/0/microcode does not exist
[so microcode updates not being applied]
/dev
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
[deleted /dev]
What version of Fedora? With any version with udev, there is the
device file system mounted on /dev once the system is booted, so as
long as the /dev/directory is there, the device entries should be
created
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
[deleted /dev]
What version of Fedora? With any version with udev, there is the
device file system mounted on /dev once the system is booted, so as
long as the /dev/directory is there, the device entries should be
/dev
Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
[deleted /dev]
What version of Fedora? With any version with udev, there is the
No, no udev. This is FC2.
do the following:
rpm -qf /dev
This should tell you the name
Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
[deleted /dev]
What version of Fedora? With any version with udev, there is the
No, no udev. This is FC2.
do the following:
rpm -qf /dev
Ok, I got the RPM for /dev
Craig White wrote:
On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 22:01 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
Again, Thank You Very Much for helping me recover from
boneheaded root activities.
there's two types of people that use Linux CLI...
those that have mistakenly run rm -rf on the wrong directory and those
Anders Karlsson wrote:
* Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080826 21:36]:
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 14:39 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 07:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
(Remember: Using Linux also is a political statement)
Maybe. Maybe not.
Well, to newcomer, it's
Frank Cox wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:51:55 -0500
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because I find that I'm frequently hitting TAB when intending
to use CAPS-LOCK and getting extraneous stuff in my command line
which I then have to edit back out.
Have you considered re-arranging your
Timothy Murphy wrote:
[...]
From my position of complete ignorance,
X10 seems based on a bizarre system of sending information
along power cables.
I would have thought wireless would have replace this years ago.
But as I say, I am a complete ignoramus on the subject.
Wireless and powerline
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay so this is way off topic but I need some help. I tried doing a
Google search but I don't know enough to get my query right.
I have several external components that I would like to come on when my
computer comes on. I would also like them to go off when my
Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Mike McCarty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am no newbie to Linux, and I consider it simply a technical
alternative to other OS choices.
Then I have to work harder to make sure you understand that this
project is more than than the technical
James Wilkinson wrote:
R. G. Newbury wrote:
Weird bit is that I was logged in as root..WHICH WAS MISLEADING. When
'nonexec' is set, ALL users are denied execution privileges. (This is
most useful for security purposes in denying the use of programs on for
example a USB stick from
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
Having root access only gives one effective ownership, not effective
permission. Being root gives one the same privileges the owner would
have.
It gets more interesting when you have fuse mounted file systems. I
have an encrypted file system
I'd like to disable the bash completion feature. I've read
the info bash stuff, and I see lots of ways to specify what
happens after or during completion, but I didn't see (overlooked?)
how to turn it off. Any bash gurus out there know how to disable
it entirely?
I don't want to turn off line
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
The CD drive works as expected. The DVD does not. When I put a
written CD into the CD drive, it mounts, and shows the label.
When I put the same disc into the DVD drive, it brings up the
CD Creator box, like it was blank. Closing that, and doing
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
Ok, just for the record --- the problem turned out to be a rather rare
situation of both hard drive *and* dvd drive failing simoultaneously. Once
both of them were replaced, the machine came back to life. I figured this out
by using Alan's approach of removing
Michael Semcheski wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Christopher Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You only need massive power supplies in a desktop if you're running high-end
video cards or something else that needs separate power inputs. Enjoy your
very long UPS runtime.
In my
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
The CD drive works as expected. The DVD does not. When I put a
written CD into the CD drive, it mounts, and shows the label.
When I put the same disc into the DVD drive, it brings up the
CD Creator box, like it was blank. Closing that, and doing
Can anyone tell me what formats /dev/dsp, /dev/dsp56k,
/dev/audio, etc. expect? It seems that I can copy
a WAV format file directly to /dev/dsp and get recognizable
sound. I wonder just what format they actually expect.
Mike
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Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:26:25 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
Can anyone tell me what formats /dev/dsp, /dev/dsp56k,
/dev/audio, etc. expect? It seems that I can copy
a WAV format file directly to /dev/dsp and get recognizable
sound. I wonder just what format they actually
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Well, I am running 2 DVD-RW - I forget the brands, but they show up
in dmesg as:
TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S202G
DVDRW DRW-5S163
dmesg shows:
[...]
hdc: SONY DVD RW DRU-V200A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[...]
hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache,
Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:32:20 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
There are several parameters that must match: bits per sample,
signed/unsigned samples, number of channels (mono/stereo), frequency
Endianness?
Add that to the list. :)
Aha. So, what do you recommend? I
I replaced my CD-ROM writer with a DVD-ROM writer, and now automounting
of either CD-ROMs or DVD-ROMs no longer takes place. Instead, the
CD-Creator gets started up, as it does for a blank writable CD-ROM.
I can force a mount by hand, which works. All the files show up and
the disc is usable.
Tom Horsley wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:18:11 -0500
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Someone please advise me on how to proceed to get this
drive to work for me the way I would like.
Well, FC2 probably predates udev, but I know when I replaced
a DVD drive I found a rules.d/70
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
After a manual mount, I have...
/dev/hdc on /mnt/cdrom type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,user=jmccarty)
My /etc/fstab entry looks like this:
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
[spaces removed for clarity of reading]
I
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
You may want to run ls -l /dev/cdrom to see where it points to. If
this was the only device on the secondary IDE controller, and you
are not using cable select, then it is possible that the old drive
was jumpered as a slave drive, and the new on is jumpered as either
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
You may want to run ls -l /dev/cdrom to see where it points to. If
this was the only device on the secondary IDE controller, and you
are not using cable select, then it is possible that the old drive
was jumpered as a slave drive, and the new on is jumpered as either
Antonio Olivares wrote:
How can I convince these guys from stop sending this,
I try to convice them, but I can't. They do not stop :(
The only solution is to delete them everytime. There are no words these guys understand.
/* Letter from someone @ OGAGDAOUDGU */
I NEED YOUR URGENT
Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
Migrating them to what? That's my question.
CentOS 4. Why do you ask?
Nils Breunese.
You seem to think this is a foregone conclusion.
Well, I'm not moving to CentOS. I find the bickering and overbearing
attitude of the moderator
Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 05:56:42PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote:
We can't and shouldn't announce anything on core/extra's behalf, we
just need to say that the current model is being reorganized and while
doing so distributions X, Y, Z have effectively fallen out
Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote:
I was just thinking out loud really. I don't expect it is possible to
revive the Legacy Project at this point, but was just thinking that
maybe trying to get companies that build on Fedora (not just Fedora
Legacy) to supply resources might be a good idea. I
Gene Heskett wrote:
I can't help but agree that its too short. 3 or 6 would be much more
realistic from the users viewpoint, who has his setup all fine tuned and
doesn't want to go thru that on an annual basis. There are other things
to life you know.
Yeah, like repairing vintage tube
Erik Forsberg wrote:
[snip]
Now, if I still need to have some RHL7.3 machines running, are there
any commercial alternatives available to fedora legacy for security
updates? I haven't any, but perhaps my Google luck is not good enough?
You might ask over on CentOS. But beware: The social
Jeff Sheltren wrote:
On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:29 AM, Mike McCarty wrote:
If things get to the point where I feel I *must* replace my load,
I'm switching to Debian.
Mike
Mike, I thought you had already stopped using Legacy. If so, I'm not
sure how this affects you.
I'm referring to your
taharka wrote:
Howdy,
On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 13:36 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
Jeff Sheltren wrote:
On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:29 AM, Mike McCarty wrote:
If things get to the point where I feel I *must* replace my load,
I'm switching to Debian.
Mike
Mike, I thought you had already stopped
Eric Rostetter wrote:
Quoting Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I have volunteered some time for test if
I will assume you mean the second part of QA, the verify step.
Well, perhaps I used the word test in a technical sense.
In my background, test means verification of proper operation
Tres Seaver wrote:
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Jesse Keating wrote:
[snip]
Honestly, I feel that supporting FC1 for so long was a mistake. It set a
precedence that I really don't want to continue. Legacy picked a timeline
[snip]
Dropping the releases which get
Josep L. Guallar-Esteve wrote:
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 22:07, NARS wrote:
I think FC2 is still used by many people, I would suggest you consider
supporting FC2 for some more time if possible.
Hi NARS,
I believe the problem is caused by lack of enough manpower. Maybe, if you can
round up
Marc Deslauriers wrote:
On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 23:48 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote:
Ah, now we get down to the nitty gritty of the desire to hasten
the process of going from a Test state to a Release state. Hopefully,
those who in past have seen no need to maintain a policy of no package
can move
Eric Rostetter wrote:
Quoting Marc Deslauriers [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Curiously, sendmail actually DID get test votes for all platforms before
it got moved to official updates. No part of the QA process was
hastened.
True, for the _current_ QA process. But not for the original QA process.
I
Eric Rostetter wrote:
Quoting Jesse Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 16:17 -0600, Mike Klinke wrote:
There is instead an entry in /usr/lib; sendmail.sendmail which
is linked to /usr/sbin/sendmail. Also the man pages no longer work
if you type; man sendmail You have to use
Michal Jaegermann wrote:
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 10:24:12AM -0500, David Eisner wrote:
Eric Rostetter wrote:
This sounds like what happens when we rush the QA processes...
Other distros had advance warning about this vulnerability, and hence
more time to apply patches and do testing.
Nils Breunese (Lemonbit Internet) wrote:
[snip]
I just think it would be interesting (for Fedora Legacy) to have some
sort of idea of why people are running legacy versions of Red Hat and
Fedora, so FL knows 'who they are doing it for'. My guess is that it's
Oh, idle curiosity. Why
Danny Terweij - Net Tuning | Net wrote:
From: Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can someone provide a new version of X-Chat in legacy updates fc3 repo?
Probably not. legacy updates is for security and critical bug fixes
only.
Hmm that sucks.
That's the mission. You *did* read the mission
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
Yes, my indictment earlier was for *all* distributions of Linux.
But Legacy has gone further than I can follow along, that's all.
We are merely discussing a proposal so legacy process hasnt gone further
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
This is not a discussion about personal opinions on QA policies within
I haven't presumed to dictate the content of your messages, or state
what your intended topic was. Please grant me the same privilege.
Or are you acting as a moderator?
Mike
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Jesse Keating wrote:
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 02:31 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote:
Ok then, it seems to me that there is no longer any distinction
between the released repository, and the test repository.
So, please send out an e-mail three days before the first
timed release so I can pull a last
Jesse Keating wrote:
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 12:54 -0600, Eric Rostetter wrote:
[snip]
I don't think so. And in any case, I was refering to the suggestion on
this list that we don't do QA to move to updates-testing, which would
by-pass this whole issue you try to bring up.
Well I won't
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
Then the Legacy Project has removed my ability not to subscribe
to testing.
Seems to be a misunderstanding here. There are separate repositories for
testing and general legacy updates. Yes?
AIUI, there will be objects put into testing
Jesse Keating wrote:
Our hope is that if this proposal scares some people, it will scare them
into finding ways to help out the project so that little to no packages
escape updates-testing w/out some QA done on it.
It doesn't frighten me at all, but it does discourage me from using
the
Eric Rostetter wrote:
[snip]
Proposal one does nothing but shorten the time period for pushing an
update-testing package that doesn't have enough QA postings.
Proposal two does nothing but make it possible to push packages through the
entire system with NO QA AT ALL being done on them.
Thank
Jesse Keating wrote:
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 15:09 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote:
I have been apalled at what generally passes as QA in the
Linux Community generally, and FC specifically. Since I
barely tolerate what exists now, it is difficult to contemplate
someone considering even more laxity
Eric Rostetter wrote:
Quoting Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Then the Legacy Project has removed my ability not to subscribe
to testing.
No, the Legacy Project has _proposed_ to that, at least in your opinion.
It was followed by something like unless we get a lot of objection so
please
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