Re: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers

2008-07-25 Thread Nicu Buculei
Max Spevack wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: What do you say? Do you have any problem with us producing a bunch of the I *heart* Fedora tshirts? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_T(2d)Shirt_tshirt_love.png Fedora EMEA e.V. is producing these shirts, correct?

Re: mockup gtk theme

2008-07-25 Thread Andy Fitzsimon
ive added sliders lists a few more button options and ideal natilus view ;-) attachment: faketheme.svgz___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list

Re: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers

2008-07-25 Thread Gerold
Max Spevack wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: What do you say? Do you have any problem with us producing a bunch of the I *heart* Fedora tshirts? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_T(2d)Shirt_tshirt_love.png Fedora EMEA e.V. is producing these shirts, correct?

Re: [Echo] preference-system-date sketches

2008-07-25 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Martin Sourada a écrit : Gnumeric's first choice was 7 which I incidentally had on my mind as well, so how about that? Sorry for the delay. I have a busy schedule due to classes. Here is a modified preference-system-update/ Luya http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/applications/ inline:

Re: mockup gtk theme

2008-07-25 Thread Andy Fitzsimon
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2700149943_e596c2c562_o.png for everyone who doesnt want to load up inkscape ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list

Re: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers

2008-07-25 Thread Nicu Buculei
Gerold wrote: Max Spevack wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: What do you say? Do you have any problem with us producing a bunch of the I *heart* Fedora tshirts? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_T(2d)Shirt_tshirt_love.png Fedora EMEA e.V. is producing these shirts,

Re: Poster revision

2008-07-25 Thread Nicu Buculei
Paul W. Frields wrote: The Marketing team has been discussing how we can organize our future Fedora messaging around the 4 Foundations theme (freedom, friends, features, first). I think people here already know these terms from elsewhere[1], so I won't belabor the point. :-) A very quick and

Re: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers

2008-07-25 Thread Max Spevack
The T-shirt shown doesn't have our official logo on it, but I think there ought to be one -- a small one on the upper back, or on one sleeve. That helps to keep the brand identification even though the front has a completely different presentation of the word fedora. To summarize the

I would love to help

2008-07-25 Thread Master M.A.G.E
I would love to help out if you have anything that i could do ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list

Re: I would love to help

2008-07-25 Thread Nicu Buculei
Hi, Master M.A.G.E wrote: I would love to help out if you have anything that i could do Sure, there is plenty of work to to, take a look at our open tasks queue: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService Or if creating icons is your thing, we need developers for the Echo theme:

Re: Poster revision

2008-07-25 Thread Ian Weller
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: - First: maybe a small group of sprinters with one of them two steps ahead of the pack. People at a sports event with foam fingers. (Just a thought :P ) -- Ian Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E

Re: Increasing point size of Meera font using fontconfig

2008-07-25 Thread Pravin S
Hi Behdad, original source is from http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/smc/fonts/malayalam-fonts-04.1.zip just edited it for testing good to know it is working perfectly where should i submit this patch 1) to fontconfig package? or 2) will it ok to copy it to /etc/conf.d through smc-fonts

Re: Proposed amendment to general packaging guidelines: no bundling of fonts in other packages

2008-07-25 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Not so fast. I have some details about this TeX font business, but I won't have time to write them down until this evening. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Given what happened there: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456580 I'm

Re: Had a look at Charis SIL

2008-07-25 Thread Nicolas Spalinger
Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/7/24 Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone know if they have their own production tools? They do, and they depend somewhat on proprietary software (FontLab) but SIL have been slowly publishing them, I think. Yes, the SIL designers and script engineers

Re: Had a look at Charis SIL

2008-07-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 11:07 +0200, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/7/24 Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone know if they have their own production tools? They do, and they depend somewhat on proprietary software (FontLab) but SIL have been slowly

Re: A PackageKit browser plugin

2008-07-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 05:37 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Bill Nottingham wrote: Jeff Spaleta ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: it? I would strongly suggest working towards replacing the current interface that both contributors and users are expected to interact with. If I'm going to be expected

Re: Increasing point size of Meera font using fontconfig

2008-07-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 11:43 +0530, Pravin S wrote: where should i submit this patch 1) to fontconfig package? or 2) will it ok to copy it to /etc/conf.d through smc-fonts package? IMO second one is not right We have many packages that do that, because isuing a fontconfig update each time a

Re: Increasing point size of Meera font using fontconfig

2008-07-25 Thread Pravin S
2008/7/25 Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 11:43 +0530, Pravin S wrote: where should i submit this patch 1) to fontconfig package? or 2) will it ok to copy it to /etc/conf.d through smc-fonts package? IMO second one is not right We have many packages that do that,

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposed amendment to general packaging guidelines: no bundling of fonts in other packages

2008-07-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 00:47 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Thursday, 24 July 2008 at 23:10, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: I'm proposing the following guidelines amendment: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/No_bundling_of_fonts_in_other_packages I'm generally in

Re: Had a look at Charis SIL

2008-07-25 Thread Vasile Gaburici
It looks like MS disagreed with Adobe on how to standardize the human-readable form of OpenType features. They have their own XML-based language, which is used by their VOLT tool. (You can download VOLT for free, but you have to be a member of their MSN group.) What's more interesting (for us) is

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposed amendment to general packaging guidelines: no bundling of fonts in other packages

2008-07-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 13:03 +0200, Patrice Dumas wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:36:40PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Frankly, the other font formats are so much less useful than modern font formats, the probability someone did creative legal restructuring is much lower. Anyway, I've

Re: TeX fonts, part one [Was: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposed amendment to general packaging guidelines: no bundling of fonts in other packages]

2008-07-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 15:04 +0300, Vasile Gaburici wrote: I did not have time finish writing all the details below, I'll write some more tonight, but before this Type 1 bashing gets out of hand, read the stuff below. If you don't want the gory details, the bottom line is that the mainstream

Re: [Fontconfig] TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-25 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 14:06 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the advantage to pack TrueType and CFF OpenType? I guess, the shareable contents are limited as TTC-packed CFF OpenType, so, such request comes from the people looking for an easy archiver of font files. Yes, I was just

Re: TTF/OTF packaging thoughts?

2008-07-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 10:31 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: All, After the discussion on two public lists, and some public and private exchanges on IRC with people whose opinion I respect a lot, since no one proposed a problem-free way to do dual format packaging, and many objected to all

[OT] Re: Fwd: Mukti fontset license

2008-07-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
On 10:11 Wed 16 Jul , Michal Nowak wrote: Hi, Fedora Linux distribution considered packaging Your Mukti fontset, but we found out that the license is GPLv2+, which we consider as excellent for software but not for fonts. […] Michal, I think we're all very impressed by the writing

Re: TeX fonts, part one [Was: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposed amendment to general packaging guidelines: no bundling of fonts in other packages]

2008-07-25 Thread Vasile Gaburici
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: — We should not hide general-purpose fonts in app-specific directories. TEX should use system fonts directly. XeTeX can do that. TeX probably NEVER will because that violates TDS. If you don't what that means, then don't

Re: TeX fonts, part one [Was: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposed amendment to general packaging guidelines: no bundling of fonts in other packages]

2008-07-25 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/7/25 Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: — We should not hide general-purpose fonts in app-specific directories. TEX should use system fonts directly. XeTeX can do that. TeX probably NEVER will because that

Re: TeX fonts, part one [Was: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposed amendment to general packaging guidelines: no bundling of fonts in other packages]

2008-07-25 Thread Vasile Gaburici
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/25 Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I second the idea that TeX ought to be an exception to the guideline not hide general-purpose fonts in app-specific directories; TeX predates all other programs in a GNU/Linux

Re: TeX fonts, part one [Was: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposed amendment to general packaging guidelines: no bundling of fonts in other packages]

2008-07-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 20:50 +0100, Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/7/25 Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: — We should not hide general-purpose fonts in app-specific directories. TEX should use system fonts directly.

Re: TeX fonts, part one [Was: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposed amendment to general packaging guidelines: no bundling of fonts in other packages]

2008-07-25 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 23:18 +0300, Vasile Gaburici wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/25 Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I second the idea that TeX ought to be an exception to the guideline not hide general-purpose fonts in

Re: YUM security issues...

2008-07-25 Thread Josh Bressers
On 21 July 2008, Josh Bressers wrote: On 19 July 2008, Justin Cappos wrote: By the way, did you remove the ability for mirror admins to select a subnet where they'll serve all of the traffic? We're particularly concerned about this issue in the short term. We took our mirror down

WP MU Help

2008-07-25 Thread Jonathan Roberts
Hi all, I've come here before talking about getting a news.fp.o site set up and running, and we've had a test instance up in the past with Lyceum but we decided to move in the direction of MU. Bret McMillan has been working very hard on this over the past several months and has now got a test

Re: YUM security issues...

2008-07-25 Thread Mike McGrath
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Josh Bressers wrote: On 21 July 2008, Josh Bressers wrote: On 19 July 2008, Justin Cappos wrote: By the way, did you remove the ability for mirror admins to select a subnet where they'll serve all of the traffic?

Re: YUM security issues...

2008-07-25 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 10:37 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: AFAIK, this service is still in place and working fine. Though I am a little confused about the question. It sounds like you'd like to direct all subnet traffic to a specific mirror. But you're also saying you took your mirror down.

Re: YUM security issues...

2008-07-25 Thread Josh Bressers
On 25 July 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Josh Bressers wrote: On 21 July 2008, Josh Bressers wrote: On 19 July 2008, Justin Cappos wrote: By the way, did you remove the ability for mirror admins to select a

Re: YUM security issues...

2008-07-25 Thread Matt Domsch
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:43:59AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 10:37 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: AFAIK, this service is still in place and working fine. Though I am a little confused about the question. It sounds like

Re: YUM security issues...

2008-07-25 Thread Mike McGrath
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Matt Domsch wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:43:59AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 10:37 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: AFAIK, this service is still in place and working fine. Though I am a

Re: YUM security issues...

2008-07-25 Thread Matt Domsch
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:46:15PM -0400, Josh Bressers wrote: On 25 July 2008, Matt Domsch wrote: Yes, this is a known challenge with subnet delegation in MirrorManager. We're trusting package signing (and soon, repodata signing) to prevent rogue mirrors from issuing unsigned data. In

Re: YUM security issues...

2008-07-25 Thread Josh Bressers
On 25 July 2008, Matt Domsch wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:46:15PM -0400, Josh Bressers wrote: On 25 July 2008, Matt Domsch wrote: Yes, this is a known challenge with subnet delegation in MirrorManager. We're trusting package signing (and soon, repodata signing) to prevent

Public demo of amber and eventual production instance

2008-07-25 Thread Robin Norwood
Hi, So sometime next week I'd like to link to the publictest10.fedoraproject.org/amber site and ask for feedback. In the meantime I'm going to install the latest changes on it, and load it up with all the data from F9. Just a heads-up, and a humble request not to break things (like the FAS

Re: YUM security issues...

2008-07-25 Thread Justin Samuel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Domsch wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:46:15PM -0400, Josh Bressers wrote: On 25 July 2008, Matt Domsch wrote: Yes, this is a known challenge with subnet delegation in MirrorManager. We're trusting package signing (and soon, repodata

RE: YUM security issues...

2008-07-25 Thread Matt_Domsch
Fedora 7 definitely behaves differently than Fedora 8 and 9. The behavior I describe began with F8. For F7 and earlier, the yum policy would chose any random mirror from the returned list, so having many mirrors on the list, some of which are unreachable from inside an organization, would be

Re: YUM security issues...

2008-07-25 Thread Josh Bressers
On 25 July 2008, Matt Domsch wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 01:52:26PM -0400, Josh Bressers wrote: That's a lot of IPs though. Can I request multiple /16s, or only one? As many as you like. And recall, such changes are made using your FAS credentials. Are these ever checked? Does say a

Re: YUM security issues...

2008-07-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Josh Bressers wrote: On 25 July 2008, Matt Domsch wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 01:52:26PM -0400, Josh Bressers wrote: That's a lot of IPs though. Can I request multiple /16s, or only one? As many as you like. And recall, such changes are made using your FAS credentials. Are these ever

Re: YUM security issues...

2008-07-25 Thread seth vidal
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 18:41 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: 3) Always get repo data from fedoraproject.org (probably not practical due to resource issues) This is the easiest to implement. It means the small repomd.xml file always comes from our server. But the rest of the metadata can

Cant remove dwell click from panel

2008-07-25 Thread Mohd Zeeshan
Hi, Im using FC9 and i had added Dwell Click to my panel by right-click on panel add to panelDwell Click Now i do not see any option to remove it from there. When i right-clink on those keys i do not get any options. Those keys are simply frozen and irremovable Please suggest. Thanks in advance

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Ric Moore
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 12:18 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:36:58PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jul 23, 2008, Nifty Fedora Mitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: systematic interface between the kernel services and the applications. This interface consists of

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Thursday 24 July 2008 18:03, Gordon Messmer wrote: but did you just say that you have an entirely uninformed opinion that you'd like to contribute? No no no, I said that I am uninformed about the *history* of the two projects (except some rudimentary information,

Re: How do I set up networked printers in F9 ?

2008-07-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 24 July 2008 21:41:59 linuxguy wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 20:37 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: Have you actually tried it? You may find that GIMP or xsane can already see it. I installed xsane and it can't see it. If not, install hplip and run (as root) hp-setup. It will

Re: How do I set up networked printers in F9 ?

2008-07-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 24 July 2008 21:41:59 linuxguy wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 20:37 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: Have you actually tried it? You may find that GIMP or xsane can already see it. I installed xsane and it can't see it. If not, install hplip and run (as root) hp-setup. It will

Re: SElinux concerning symlink?

2008-07-25 Thread Stuart Sears
Todd Denniston wrote: Stuart Thanks for the recipe. you're welcome if /rootlockeddown/ is on NFS, would the following command do part of what is needed? (yet more complexity, but then we do have a real world to live in :) setsebool -P use_nfs_home_dirs=1 seems that it might. It

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Björn Persson
Tim wrote: Speaking as someone who studied (at college) computing from the component level, and has built systems from the chip level.  I mean breadboarding CPUs, RAM, I/O, etc., not just putting together IBM clones.  As well as studying programming at that level (hand compiling the op-codes

Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Todd Zullinger tmz at pobox.com writes: Perhaps something like this would work? yum --enablerepo updates-testing groupupdate 'KDE (K Desktop Environment)' Most likely not. The comps groups don't include libraries, and those should be upgraded too. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:16:48AM +0930, Tim wrote: Marko Vojinovic: But tell me, what is in principle The Single Most Important element of the car? There is only one answer --- the engine. Alexandre Oliva: So, what remains to be justified is why you decided Linux is the engine rather

Re: Adjust the fonts of QT-based programs

2008-07-25 Thread Skunk Worx
Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, How to adjust the fonts of QT-based programs? (Using F9 and XFCE.) Thanks in advance, Paul For qt3 I 'yum install qt3-config' then run the command 'qtconfig'. After adjustments the resulting qtrc file is saved below your home .qt directory. To make this

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 24, 2008, Nifty Fedora Mitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recall, the name of this line that joins the kernel (Linux) and application space (think HelloWorld, X-windows and more) is the question I am asking. Of interest the omissions in the list of system calls commonly show up as

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 25, 2008, Ric Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume that glibc had to be re-written to accommodate the Linux kernel. Nah. Rewritten is a large exaggeration. Most of GNU libc is independent of whatever kernel is running under it, and that's how it should be. Only the thin system

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Gordon Messmer wrote: Any code under a compatible license can be combined with GPL code. The GPL applies to the work as a whole, but does not remove the license from the other parts which are under compatible licenses. They can be removed from the GPLed work and reused under their

DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread James Kosin
Everyone, The DNS attacks are starting!!! Below is a snippet of a logwatch from last night. Be sure all DNS servers are updated if at all possible. The spooks are out in full on this security vulnerability in force. THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING...!!! Patch or Upgrade NOW! James Kosin A long

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Alexandre Oliva wrote: Recall, the name of this line that joins the kernel (Linux) and application space (think HelloWorld, X-windows and more) is the question I am asking. Of interest the omissions in the list of system calls commonly show up as hardware specific ioctl() side doors.

Re: Physical Authentication Tokens

2008-07-25 Thread Todd Denniston
Bjoern Schiessle wrote, On 07/24/2008 07:37 PM: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you are prepared to hack PAM modules then you can write your own for whatever toys you like playing with (be that RFID, smart cards or even stuff like querying a password on a mobile phone via a java applet on

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Alexandre Oliva wrote: That's what enables GNU libc to offer the same API and, at times, even the same ABI, while targeting very different kernels. Who did that port?? Linus and his team? Most certainly. I can't quite picture the GNU project putting resources into the early development of

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 12:47 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: Tim wrote: Speaking as someone who studied (at college) computing from the component level, and has built systems from the chip level. I mean breadboarding CPUs, RAM, I/O, etc., not just putting together IBM clones. As well as

Re: F9: Network address problems

2008-07-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 15:35 -0500, Seann Clark wrote: All, I have had issues with Fedora lately (past 4 version now) that most of the time I have gotten past after a while, but don't have anything uniform to solve this. Here is the situation: When installing a new system to

Re: SElinux concerning symlink?

2008-07-25 Thread max
Stuart Sears wrote: Todd Denniston wrote: Stuart Thanks for the recipe. you're welcome if /rootlockeddown/ is on NFS, would the following command do part of what is needed? (yet more complexity, but then we do have a real world to live in :) setsebool -P use_nfs_home_dirs=1 seems that

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 20:51 +, g wrote: Craig White wrote: snip came back when I tried to print from Firefox... so maybe you *and* firefox need to be in 'lp' group. gbwg -- tc,hago. The group of the user and firefox is irrelevant. --

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 15:58 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 22:52 +, g wrote: Craig White wrote: snip On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:21 +, g wrote: Craig White wrote: snip I hope that you won't mind that I will continue to ignore your suggestions

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Jim van Wel
Zhe zombies are coming But we are all aware of this fact after release of the patch ;) Greetings, Jim. Everyone, The DNS attacks are starting!!! Below is a snippet of a logwatch from last night. Be sure all DNS servers are updated if at all possible. The spooks are out in full on

Re: Network printer setup

2008-07-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 20:57 -0400, Vincent Onelli wrote: Hi there all, Is there some detailed guide line on haw to setup a printer? I am new on Linux and most of the entry I do not even know what it means. I would very much appreciate if some one can give me a detailed guideline on what to

Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
2008/7/25 Kevin Kofler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Todd Zullinger tmz at pobox.com writes: Perhaps something like this would work? yum --enablerepo updates-testing groupupdate 'KDE (K Desktop Environment)' Most likely not. The comps groups don't include libraries, and those should be upgraded too.

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Tim wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 19:01 -0700, Craig White wrote: It's no different than adding myself to lp group. While that might allow me to print, it doesn't really solve the problem and I can get it to print anyway. It does raise the point that some definition of what some system groups

Re: F8 NetworkManager going crazy at startup

2008-07-25 Thread Phil Meyer
Christoph Höger wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 23.07.2008, 16:18 -0700 schrieb Konstantin Svist: Hi, I've noticed a problem with NM recently (might've happened after a system update, not 100% sure when it started). When I log into KDE, NM starts connecting to the network. It used to connect eth0

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread James Kosin
Jim van Wel wrote: Zhe zombies are coming But we are all aware of this fact after release of the patch ;) Greetings, Jim. I know; but there is always somebody who always says, It won't happen to me. And sadly they usually never learn their lesson even if repeated multiple times. I

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread ksh shrm
Is there anything we all care about. We are normal users who don't have any server at home. Just a PC with internet connection to surf. adios KSH SHRM People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care... 2008/7/25 James Kosin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jim van Wel wrote: Zhe

system-network-config - crashing!!

2008-07-25 Thread bruce
Hi. I've got Fedora 8, on a x64 amd dual core. (don't have the kernel right now). I run system-networ-config, and i get the dialog box displayed, indicating that an error is being thrown somewhere in the pythonic scripts. The error has apparently been logged in the fedora bugzilla. Has anyone

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
James Kosin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: client 143.215.143.11 query (cache) 'com/ANY/IN' denied: 30 Time(s) client 143.215.143.11 query (cache) 'gmail.com/ANY/IN' denied: 32 Time(s) client 143.215.143.11 query (cache) 'hotmail.com/ANY/IN' denied: 31 Thanks for posting. Maybe this

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
ksh shrm wrote: Is there anything we all care about. We are normal users who don't have any server at home. Just a PC with internet connection to surf. adios KSH SHRM I guess there era a lot of abnormal users on this list them. And it is a concern even if you do not run a name server,

Re: Evolution Conduits in FC9

2008-07-25 Thread Oliver Sampson
On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 14:07 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 23:01 +0200, Oliver Sampson wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 13:00 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 21:07 +0200, Oliver Sampson wrote: Hi, I'm trying to get my Treo 600 to synch with Evolution in

RE: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread bruce
As I understand the issue. The issue is one of being able to poison the DNS app on the DNS server. There's not really much the casual user can do, aside from switching to another DNS/IP address that's safe. But the rub is, do you really know if the DNS/IP you're switching to is safe! The best

Evolution/Treo Synch Problem

2008-07-25 Thread Oliver Sampson
Hi, I've got a funny thing happening with my Evolution/Treo synching. Everything seems to synch fine, however, the Treo reports that the connection was lost to the computer, and when I manually launch gpilotd so that I can see its output, everything there looks pretty cool--the synchronization

Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 22:19 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:20 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: A kde-4.1-rc2 update is queued for release to fedora 9's updates-testing repository. It is meant for testing the upcoming KDE 4.1 release and to filter

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-25 Thread Antonio Olivares
Why are they filling up the stacks with discussing on this topic. Because many users on the list consider it very important. Yes there might be other issues equally important like global warming and World Peace, but that is beyond the scope of this mailing list. There are many other needy

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-25 Thread BRUCE STANLEY
--- Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig White wrote: I gather Mikkel, that this means that you have moved from the sidelines of criticizing the pointlessness of this thread to participation. Craig No really. I was just trying to add a bit of humor to it. I have no

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
bruce wrote: As I understand the issue. The issue is one of being able to poison the DNS app on the DNS server. There's not really much the casual user can do, aside from switching to another DNS/IP address that's safe. But the rub is, do you really know if the DNS/IP you're switching to is

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread James Kosin
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: James Kosin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: client 143.215.143.11 query (cache) 'com/ANY/IN' denied: 30 Time(s) client 143.215.143.11 query (cache) 'gmail.com/ANY/IN' denied: 32 Time(s) client 143.215.143.11 query (cache) 'hotmail.com/ANY/IN' denied: 31 Thanks

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
BRUCE STANLEY wrote: Why don't we all just agree that Stallman and the FSF are the Borg and the GPL is the elixir used to assimilate software (and people). Resistance is futile. ;-) Because when your license is strictly a limitation on the way your product can be improved, your

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
James Kosin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But, the patches out don't fix the issue totally. That would require a complete re-write of the DNS and how DNS works. This is something already in the works. The patch just makes it more difficult to trigger the issue. I'm using the patched version

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Björn Persson
Les Mikesell wrote: I've forgotten the timing, but I don't think Posix had a full/useful spec until well after Linux. ATT's SVID spec (published for sysvr4 around 1989) would have been about right. Posix wasn't very complete until 1995 or so. On the third of July 1991, Linus Torvalds asked

Weird error in Ffx3

2008-07-25 Thread Beartooth
Very often (more often than not), when I cp a URL into Firefox 3 (under F9), I get an error which might as well be in hieroglyphics a; ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file! Stack Trace: 0:ENSURE_WARN(false,_installLocation: engine has no file!,2147500037) 1:() 2:() 3:()

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-25 Thread Antonio Olivares
Why don't we all just agree that Stallman and the FSF are the Borg and the GPL is the elixir used to assimilate software (and people). Resistance is futile. ;-) Because when your license is strictly a limitation on the way your product can be improved, your competitor

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Björn Persson wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: I've forgotten the timing, but I don't think Posix had a full/useful spec until well after Linux. ATT's SVID spec (published for sysvr4 around 1989) would have been about right. Posix wasn't very complete until 1995 or so. On the third of July 1991,

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Björn Persson
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: ksh shrm wrote: Is there anything we all care about. We are normal users who don't have any server at home. I guess there era a lot of abnormal users on this list them. Yeah, I'm abnormal. And my DNS server is upgraded. Björn Persson -- fedora-list mailing

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Björn Persson
Les Mikesell wrote: If you are really paranoid (or about to do large transactions on what you hope is your banking site), you could do a 'whois' lookup for the target domain to find their own name servers and send a query directly there for the target site. Check that the domain name in the

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread g
Aaron Konstam wrote: snip The group of the user and firefox is irrelevant. anyway, i added 'gbwg' only because i had added 'firefox'. maybe in case of 'lp' at this time. yet back when i set up cups in mandrake 8 and 9, it was necessary. it was also necessary that i was in 'sane' and 'xsane'

RE: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread bruce
bjorn... while what you say makes sense... the vast majority of people pop up their favorite browser, and go to a site.. there's no way these guys (my mother included) are going to get into the esoteric details of what goes on behind the scenes for the browser/dns/certificates/etc... it's up to

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 18:14 +, g wrote: Aaron Konstam wrote: snip The group of the user and firefox is irrelevant. anyway, i added 'gbwg' only because i had added 'firefox'. maybe in case of 'lp' at this time. yet back when i set up cups in mandrake 8 and 9, it was necessary. it was

Re: Weird error in Ffx3

2008-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 11:15 -0700, stan wrote: Beartooth wrote: Very often (more often than not), when I cp a URL into Firefox 3 (under F9), I get an error which might as well be in hieroglyphics a; ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file! Stack Trace:

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Alan Cox
Yes, there was some version of the Posix standard in that time frame. It was just incomplete and described some mythical system that matched no existing BSD or SysV flavor, so it was mostly ignored. Sort of like Not really the case. POSIX described a set of behaviours that were Unixlike

Re: Weird error in Ffx3

2008-07-25 Thread stan
Craig White wrote: I just closed all running copies of Firefox and restarted and that seemed to clear things up for me. Craig That didn't work for me. First thing I tried. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James They'd have to spoof several things at once to keep it from being obvious but you are right, the whois result will give names that you have to look up somehow. Go for the gusto. Spoof the nameservers. Why screw around? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S.

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