Re: mailing list losing mail?
May be something is really missing. I sent an e-mail about not activating LAN Cards after reboots, but only one response has come. I guess that it is not so complicated issue that none could help?! Thanx jh Původní zpráva Od: Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com Předmět: Re: mailing list losing mail? Datum: 09.1.2010 07:25:16 Martin Airs wrote: On 01/08/2010 05:11 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, This list is getting more messed up by the day. Several weeks ago mail started lagging 10-25 minutes. Now mail is disappearing. I sent a post to this list yesterday @ 22:44 UTC. My server shows that it was accepted and queued for delivery. It never showed up on the list (I've checked to make sure it didn't accidentally get caught in a spam filter.) Oddly, it did show up in the gmane archives. So, I reposted that email this morning @ 16:32 UTC and once again it never appeared but did show up in gmane almost immediately. UPDATE: I just received a copy of my post 31 minutes after sending it. How can my mail make it into gmane's archives almost immediately but take more than half an hour to appear on fedora-list? These delays certainly (imo) take a lot of the usefulness away from this forum. Starting to remind me of snail mail conversations :/ My 0.02, Mike Wright Your lucky, I've never received my own posts to the list, even tho I have selected it in the settings That, I believe, is a known issue with using a gmail account for lists I think you can search the archives and find the solution for it... -- I selected E5 ... but I didn't hear Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs! Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
j.halifax . wrote: May be something is really missing. I sent an e-mail about not activating LAN Cards after reboots, but only one response has come. I guess that it is not so complicated issue that none could help?! No. The fact that people pick and choose what issues to respond to is no indication that maybe some mails are going missing. FWIW, I've never had a email from this list go missingunless I screwed up my filters. :-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
Mail Lists wrote: This contains the mapping of the list names and inbound MX (eg foo-...@redhat.com goes to foo-...@lists.feforaproject.org) - it does NOT contain the outbound mail servers - (cf hormel.redhat.com was an outbound mx server - vs the list inbound fedora-list@redhat.com). my bad. i was a very tired when i replied and your question did not fully register. i guess my mind had not recovered from interpreting 'from ' from 'form'. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
mailing list losing mail?
Hi all, This list is getting more messed up by the day. Several weeks ago mail started lagging 10-25 minutes. Now mail is disappearing. I sent a post to this list yesterday @ 22:44 UTC. My server shows that it was accepted and queued for delivery. It never showed up on the list (I've checked to make sure it didn't accidentally get caught in a spam filter.) Oddly, it did show up in the gmane archives. So, I reposted that email this morning @ 16:32 UTC and once again it never appeared but did show up in gmane almost immediately. UPDATE: I just received a copy of my post 31 minutes after sending it. How can my mail make it into gmane's archives almost immediately but take more than half an hour to appear on fedora-list? These delays certainly (imo) take a lot of the usefulness away from this forum. Starting to remind me of snail mail conversations :/ My 0.02, Mike Wright -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, This list is getting more messed up by the day. could it be problem is on your end? I sent a post to this list yesterday @ 22:44 UTC. My server shows that i show this from list: } Received: from lan100.theorb.net (HELO ?10.1.0.100?) (10.1.0.100) } by b.mx.theorb.net with SMTP; 7 Jan 2010 22:43:58 - } Message-ID: 4b4663fc.1080...@mailinator.com } Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:45:16 -0800 } From: Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com } User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20071019) } To: For users of Fedora Core releases fedora-list@redhat.com } Subject: kb to control audio line-in instead of pcm } Sender: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com So, I reposted that email this morning @ 16:32 UTC and once again it and i show this from list: } Received: from lan100.theorb.net (HELO ?10.1.0.100?) (10.1.0.100) } by b.mx.theorb.net with SMTP; 8 Jan 2010 16:31:06 - } Message-ID: 4b475e18.1030...@mailinator.com } Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 08:32:24 -0800 } From: Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com } User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20071019) } To: For users of Fedora Core releases fedora-list@redhat.com } Subject: kb to control audio line-in instead of pcm } Sender: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com i did not note when they came in, but they are getting thru. why delay, i can not answer. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
g wrote: Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, snip this email took about 6 minutes to come back thru list. why delay, i can not answer. but i do see where. while waiting, i looked at you email of 2010.0108 and i did note a delay of about 1 hour. being that you are using thunderbird, use ctrl+w to have a look at headers and you will see where it was delayed. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
g wrote: g wrote: Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, snip this email took about 6 minutes to come back thru list. why delay, i can not answer. but i do see where. while waiting, i looked at you email of 2010.0108 and i did note a delay of about 1 hour. being that you are using thunderbird, use ctrl+w to have a look at headers and you will see where it was delayed. Thanks g, This is from the last 9 messages headers. At first it looked like dns errors, then maybe greylisting, but I think the variation in delivery times points to something else. The delay is always between my server and the server below. Received: from mx1-phx2.redhat.com (HELO mx01.util.phx2.redhat.com) 00:28:14 00:28:21 00:28:13 00:24:56 00:26:41 00:24:43 00:28:46 00:26:50 00:20:08 Mine is a qmail server that's been in service for years. Neither it nor its dns has been changed (that I remember) and all other mail seems to show up almost immediately. I've been on this list for a really long time and never had problems before. Wonder what it could be? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 11:36 -0800, Mike Wright wrote: Mine is a qmail server that's been in service for years. Neither it nor its dns has been changed (that I remember) and all other mail seems to show up almost immediately. I've been on this list for a really long time and never had problems before. Wonder what it could be? Being that the email server(s) are moving to Fedora infastructure from Red Hat server, maybe that might make a difference. Id wait until after this weekend when the move is completed, then evaluate how it's going. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY Best lil town on Earth! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, This list is getting more messed up by the day. Several weeks ago mail started lagging 10-25 minutes. Now mail is disappearing. Did the post explaining why this is happening (mail server move) get lost, or did you just not read / understand it? Read the message explaining in painful detail how/why and what you might have to do to make your mail filters allow mail form the list. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
On 01/08/2010 08:41 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, This list is getting more messed up by the day. Several weeks ago mail started lagging 10-25 minutes. Now mail is disappearing. Did the post explaining why this is happening (mail server move) get lost, or did you just not read / understand it? Read the message explaining in painful detail how/why and what you might have to do to make your mail filters allow mail form the list. Actually the one thing missing from the painful details was the list of outbound MX servers for the new list so people can whitelist thos instead of the hormelX.redhat ones. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
Mike Wright wrote: Wonder what it could be? as 'bill d' questions and 'mike w' suggests, it is/tends to be server related and why i brought your attention to your headers. my second post to this thread where i state trip time, took almost 3 times as long to return to me. so, in hope that fedora server moving is not in vain, next week should be a better turn around time. much luck to the moving crew. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
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Mail Lists wrote: Actually the one thing missing from the painful details was the list of outbound MX servers for the new list so people can whitelist thos instead of the hormelX.redhat ones. in post; } From: Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com } Subject: IMPORTANT: Mailing list migration this weekend } Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 16:15:42 -0500 there is a notation at end where ??infinite wisdom?? was applied; } [1] http://jstanley.fedorapeople.org/mlmigration.pdf which is a *pdf* file of name changes. tho it would have been nicer if it was sent out in an email, then all could do a drag and paste of new addresses. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
On 01/08/2010 09:55 PM, g wrote: Mail Lists wrote: Actually the one thing missing from the painful details was the list of outbound MX servers for the new list so people can whitelist thos instead of the hormelX.redhat ones. in post; } From: Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com } Subject: IMPORTANT: Mailing list migration this weekend } Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 16:15:42 -0500 there is a notation at end where ??infinite wisdom?? was applied; } [1] http://jstanley.fedorapeople.org/mlmigration.pdf which is a *pdf* file of name changes. tho it would have been nicer if it was sent out in an email, then all could do a drag and paste of new addresses. This contains the mapping of the list names and inbound MX (eg foo-...@redhat.com goes to foo-...@lists.feforaproject.org) - it does NOT contain the outbound mail servers - (cf hormel.redhat.com was an outbound mx server - vs the list inbound fedora-list@redhat.com). I have not found a list of outbound mx servers for the new domains. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
On 01/08/2010 10:16 PM, Mail Lists wrote: I have not found a list of outbound mx servers for the new domains. So, look at your email headers (yes, it may not be a complete list, and it may not be definitive due to the move not being complete, but) I just went through this entire thread and they all arrived from the *same* email server: from mx01.util.phx2.redhat.com (mx1-phx2.redhat.com [209.132.183.26]) If yours match, it looks like a good starting place. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
On 01/08/2010 11:12 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 01/08/2010 10:16 PM, Mail Lists wrote: I have not found a list of outbound mx servers for the new domains. So, look at your email headers (yes, it may not be a complete list, and it may not be definitive due to the move not being complete, but) I just went through this entire thread and they all arrived from the *same* email server: from mx01.util.phx2.redhat.com (mx1-phx2.redhat.com [209.132.183.26]) If yours match, it looks like a good starting place. Yep - mine is from same .. thanks ! gene/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
On 01/08/2010 05:11 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, This list is getting more messed up by the day. Several weeks ago mail started lagging 10-25 minutes. Now mail is disappearing. I sent a post to this list yesterday @ 22:44 UTC. My server shows that it was accepted and queued for delivery. It never showed up on the list (I've checked to make sure it didn't accidentally get caught in a spam filter.) Oddly, it did show up in the gmane archives. So, I reposted that email this morning @ 16:32 UTC and once again it never appeared but did show up in gmane almost immediately. UPDATE: I just received a copy of my post 31 minutes after sending it. How can my mail make it into gmane's archives almost immediately but take more than half an hour to appear on fedora-list? These delays certainly (imo) take a lot of the usefulness away from this forum. Starting to remind me of snail mail conversations :/ My 0.02, Mike Wright Your lucky, I've never received my own posts to the list, even tho I have selected it in the settings smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
Martin Airs wrote: On 01/08/2010 05:11 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, This list is getting more messed up by the day. Several weeks ago mail started lagging 10-25 minutes. Now mail is disappearing. I sent a post to this list yesterday @ 22:44 UTC. My server shows that it was accepted and queued for delivery. It never showed up on the list (I've checked to make sure it didn't accidentally get caught in a spam filter.) Oddly, it did show up in the gmane archives. So, I reposted that email this morning @ 16:32 UTC and once again it never appeared but did show up in gmane almost immediately. UPDATE: I just received a copy of my post 31 minutes after sending it. How can my mail make it into gmane's archives almost immediately but take more than half an hour to appear on fedora-list? These delays certainly (imo) take a lot of the usefulness away from this forum. Starting to remind me of snail mail conversations :/ My 0.02, Mike Wright Your lucky, I've never received my own posts to the list, even tho I have selected it in the settings That, I believe, is a known issue with using a gmail account for lists I think you can search the archives and find the solution for it... -- I selected E5 ... but I didn't hear Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs! Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
On 01/09/2010 05:19 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Martin Airs wrote: On 01/08/2010 05:11 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, This list is getting more messed up by the day. Several weeks ago mail started lagging 10-25 minutes. Now mail is disappearing. I sent a post to this list yesterday @ 22:44 UTC. My server shows that it was accepted and queued for delivery. It never showed up on the list (I've checked to make sure it didn't accidentally get caught in a spam filter.) Oddly, it did show up in the gmane archives. So, I reposted that email this morning @ 16:32 UTC and once again it never appeared but did show up in gmane almost immediately. UPDATE: I just received a copy of my post 31 minutes after sending it. How can my mail make it into gmane's archives almost immediately but take more than half an hour to appear on fedora-list? These delays certainly (imo) take a lot of the usefulness away from this forum. Starting to remind me of snail mail conversations :/ My 0.02, Mike Wright Your lucky, I've never received my own posts to the list, even tho I have selected it in the settings That, I believe, is a known issue with using a gmail account for lists I think you can search the archives and find the solution for it... aha, Thanks for that, I've changed to another email address now we shall see now, if I get this message back :) cheers Martin smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
