Hideyo, I am sending prayers to you and Tsubomi. I
hope she can pull through this.
Cindy Reasoner
--- Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well - I talked to three vets and they feel that I
am doing everything
I can for her right now and they don't have any
other suggestions and
she
What wonderful news about Tristan. Congratulations on
your new member of the family.
Cindy Reasoner
--- Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jen has been giving some of the Sids kids check ups
that have been there awhile and rechecking them for
fiv and felv.Well there is this beautiful
Hi Guys,
I can't make up my mind about Spencer. He's been on the dex shots since
9/7. I started to half his dose eod on Sat. It doesn't seemed to have
had any negative effect. If it wasn't for the fact that he's all but
stopped eating, I would think he was on his way to recovery. He's so
Hi Nina,
You know Spencer best, and I know you will make the right decision for him.
That being said, if Spencer was my cat, I'd take him to the vet. He'll only be poked and prodded for a few minutes. I don't think one vet visit will make all his remaining time on earth miserable. Then again, my
I can only tell you that when the Royal Princess Kitty Katt's cancers spread
to the point that we knew treatment would make her miserable the treatments
stopped...and she very plainly told me and 6 animal communicators
that she wanted no more vets. Period. End of subject. And I
Hey Nina,
Have you tried the transdermal cyproheptadine to
encourage his appetite? I am so sorry little Spencer
is not eating well. Prayers going out to him.
:)
Wendy
--- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Guys,
I can't make up my mind about Spencer. He's been on
the dex shots since
9/7.
I have been using it once a day. I don't think it's that he doesn't
have an appetite, I think he's associating stomach upset with eating.
Thank you for the suggestion and your prayers,
Nina
wendy wrote:
Hey Nina,
Have you tried the transdermal cyproheptadine to
encourage his appetite? I
Hi Kelley,
Thanks for the vote of confidence. I wish I felt as certain that I am
making the right decisions for him. I just left a not so clear message
on my vet's voice mail asking for her advice. I'm leaning towards
taking him in. He's going to starve to death if I don't and then I'll
I would at least up his dex to what it was at before you cut it eod.
I might even up it more than that. Have you tried periactin with him? Or reglan
or pepcid for nausea? I would fool around with all of these things and try to
get his symptoms under control.
The only thing a vet can do for
Hideyo,
some people on this list have reversed severe anemia in positives
with a few abdominal injections of acemannan. Have you considered this?
Michelle
I wouldn't have a problem with the decision if I were sure that what was
going on with Spencer was indeed terminal. I can't shake the feeling
that he has the opportunity to get better. I don't know if that's
because of who he is, that he's determined to live every day to the
fullest, or
Nina, he is not going to get better. If you thought he might, you should
try chemo, as that is really the only thing with a chance at giving him
long-term remission. Otherwise, he might if lucky live a few months, but
cats with lymphoma do not just go on living for years without treatment.
I know this is a stretch... but could he be eating at a neighbors house? We feed all the neighbors cats... in the neighborhood and at our property. I get told by people all the time What are you feeding those guys! They obviously like it better here than what I feed them!. So... is that a
I have given him a couple of doses of Reglan. I could try using it more
and see if it makes any difference in his symptoms. I haven't given him
Pepcid. What's Periactin? I'll go Google it.
I guess in the back of my mind I was hoping the vets would examine him
and exclaim, Hey! This cat
You can get pepcid injectable version so that you won't have to give him
orally.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:33 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?
I
Nina,
Take a breath. Look out the window. Just pause. The next step is right there, your foot is raised to take it, and you're doing amazing ballet in pivoting to all angles before deciding where to put it and that's okay. You have a hunch and a hope and you're looking for support of it. I can
Periactin is cyproheptadine, which it seems like you are already giving
him.
You're right-- high doses of steroids can sometimes cause stomach upset. I
have not seen it, so had not thought of it. Pepcid and/or carafate would
be what helps with that. I would start giving him 1/2 pepcid once
Thank you Leslie. Your description of the indecisive ballet is right
on! I'm breathing now. What you say about making a visit to the vet
makes sense too. I think I'm going to take Michelle's advice and start
Spencer on Pepcid and regular doses of Reglan and see if that helps him
begin to
Nina, if he lets you pill him, he might let you put a gob of baby
food or A/D on the back of his tongue, and it might be less stressful than
normal assist feeding. Lucy really hardly minds me doing that at all-- I
do it with her raw food when she is not feeling well. I just put a gob in
My dearest Michelle,
It made my heart contract to think I might have upset you in any way.
All you've done is been kind enough to point out the obvious with the
probability of Spencer having lymphoma. I can't tell you how much
better your guidance and support has made me feel and how much I
Thanks I'll try assist feeding him that way. I've got some raw chicken
thawing. I thought he might be more receptive to something completely
different than what I've been offering him.
Blessings to you my dear,
Nina
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nina, if he lets you pill him, he might let you
First, I wanted to thank you all for all your prayers,
advise and encouragement for my Tsubomi I am staying home with Tsubomi
today as I feel that her final days of her life this time around is approaching
she is having a bit difficult time breathing and she is very cold
because of her
Oh Hideyo, I'm so sorry! Do you have any Valium in the house? When my
feral friend Simon was transitioning, I gave him a little bit and it
seemed to help him relax enough to let go of the physical. I can only
imagine what you are going through. My thoughts and prayers are with you
and Tsubomi.
At 11:35 AM 10/9/2006, you wrote:
You are so brave. It hurts so very much and I am sending allthe best
hopes and thoughts for a gentle journey across the Bridge. I will also
add her name to the Monday night candle ceremony. You are in my thoughts,
and I wish there were more I could do.
Kelly
Hi guys,
I am not allowed (by my HOA) to have bowls, etc., on my porch. All pet food dishes must be kept inside. I am allowed to have plants outside.
I have been just pouring the food out directly on my porch, which isn't the best method, but it works. I'm trying to figure out how to give them
At 11:46 AM 10/9/2006, you wrote:
Get a small fake plant,in a pot,,,put that put onto aq bigger bowel
of water, A shallow bowel that is not obvious ...you can also do it with
the food,,,
Kelly
Hi guys,
I am not allowed (by my HOA) to have bowls, etc., on my porch. All
pet food dishes must
Sorry it's taken a few days to get back with you on the specifics, but...well, you'll see.
My vet emailed me back about the herbs in Satch's asthma powder. I'll cut and paste from her email, then include links to Google searches that I did next to the ingredients - all text is hers, but anything
Hi, My name is Chelsea. In late July a kitten (seemed to be) wandered
into my yard. After thinking she may go home, putting up posts of found
cat, and checking newspapers for lost cat notices, I found she had been
seen at the nearby church and figured she was dumped there. After trying
to find
Leslie - so these are the herbs you are using for FeLV or for Satch's asthma? Do you find that these are helping? I know herbs are hard on a cat's system... so I'm really curious how this is working for Satch and how he is accepting them into his food. I'm VERY interested in how this works
Hideyo,
I'm sorry Tsubomi's time is near, but she will be well and whole
again on the other side. I pray her journey is swift and easy. To make
her more comfortable while she is leaving, do you have a heating pad or
hot water bottle you could put under her to help keep her warm? Not too
Nina I know that this is a small
percentage but I have a friend whose cat has had lymphoma for over 2 years now
and she is very healthy now still - she decided not to give any conventional
treatment at all but give raw meat diet with natural supplement ---and
she has had for two years
Hideyo, I'm sorry you're losing another baby. May
Tsubomi have a gentle Bridge journey when her time comes. Hugs to both of
you.
Diane R.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
YamamotoSent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:35 PMTo:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org;
You didn't upset me. I was afraid I had upset you, and was just trying to
explain why I had said what I said. Please don't worry about it.
Give him lots of pets and kisses,
Michelle
In a message dated 10/9/2006 2:26:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My
dearest
What about cutting the back out of a pot for a plant? Do likeKelly said and make it a fake plant and then you'd have the whole inside of the pot where the dirt would be. You'll be like James Bond soon... We live in a deed restricted community too... I'm lucky no one has said anything about me
Hi Leslie, yes these are the asthma herbs. My vet liked the combination of the Feline Immune Support pills for his immune system and these herbs that are for the asthma, but also immune support. I hadn't heard that herbs were hard on cats - I knew that essential oils were to be avoided, but had
This might be a little confuseing but please bear with me. I'm not exactly sure what to do. About three weeks ago my Feonce and i went to the animal shelter and got a kitten. He had all his vacinations and was tested negative for the feline leukemia. Well while we were there signing the papers
Hi, I take care of ferals from 7 different
colonies in my area the key to success is to keep low profie as much as
possible what I do for them I will go feed them around mid
night and clear up the plates by 1st thing in the morning so n one
really sees it they will only come around the
Jamie, I would definitely get a second opinion. From what you say, the vet simply made a diagnosis of FeLV based on gum color/eyelid color and anemia can be caused by many different things. In order to determine feline leukemia virus status, blood tests need to be done. The usual practice is to
At 03:47 PM 10/9/2006, you wrote:
Excellent point...very good advice...
Kelly
Hi,
I take care of ferals from 7 different colonies in my area the key to
success is to keep low profie as much as possible what I do for them
I will go feed them around mid night and clear up the plates by
1st
I would guess that if it is actually lymphoma it is small-cell lymphoma,
which can grow very slowly, as opposed to large-cell lymphoma, which most of our
cats get.
Michelle
In a message dated 10/9/2006 6:48:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nina – I know that
this
I have used valium this way too and have found it makes a big difference in
how peacefully they go. I am so sorry.
Michelle
In a message dated 10/9/2006 6:50:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh
Hideyo, I'm so sorry! Do you have any Valium in the house? When my
He had too many vaccinations (my best
bet). Find a holistic vet and have him/her treat for over
vaccination. You can get some information on the internet. Several
vets I know (both regular and alternative) recommend against doing all vaccines
at once--some even recommend doing
More prayers for you and Tsubomi, Hideyo.tcindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hideyo, I am sending prayers to you and Tsubomi. Ihope she can pull through this.Cindy Reasoner--- Hideyo Yamamoto<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Well - I talked to three vets and they feel that I am doing everything
I'm sorry. I just don't understand. Are you saying Ellie was always positive. She gave it to Oreo and he tested positive, but now he's negative? I don't know if your vet knows what he's doing. If he tested positive on Elissa and then tested negative a month later I take that as a negative. Others
Nina,You and Spencer are in my thoughts and prayers. It's so hard to know what to do. I wish I had some advice, but you know him best.tNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have given him a couple of doses of Reglan. I could try using it more and see if it makes any difference in his symptoms.
I am new here, and don't really know you both, but I
have been where you are right now. May a spirit of
peace be with you both.
Love and prayers for both of you,
Dede
--- Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First, I wanted to thank you all for all your
prayers, advise and
All of us in these feline groups spend a lot of money helping our
cats, Our vets order test,,,labs,,meds etc and we really have no idea
what most people are paying for these procedures,be it a spay or a
dental,,ultra sound or Xray
I am hoping there is very computer literate person out there
I think it is going to vary a lot by location.
We have a lot of city subsidized services here.
Since I live in the poor area of town I get free spay/neuter, rabies, and city registration. I have to take a day off work and get up at 5 am and wait in line. Supposedly we are limited to 3 animals
I am absolutely drooling over those prices.. I am limited (hmph) to two kitties by lease and since I take them to a cat only vet (very very good, I love them) I can barely afford the two! I love my vets and the care they give my boys, but I know I couldn't afford their prices on the problems a
At 08:46 PM 10/9/2006, you wrote:
Is there a way we can give a geographical location and some basic ideas
of what we pay for specific procedures,
for example here several of the vets charge 165 for a senior panel,,,the
SNAP combo test ranges for 39 to 60,,,A CBC is about 50,,Spay can go from
50
Thanks Tonya, and everyone else. I did give him .5 of a Pepcid this
afternoon. This evening, a couple of hours ago, I gave him his shot of
dex and smeared his ear with the appetite stimulant. His breath is more
shallow than it has been since I began using the dex and he's oh so
tired. He's
Nina, I'm so sorry your dear boy is fading. If it's time for him to go,
he'll go knowing he was deeply loved. What more could any kitty, or
anybody, ask? Give Spencer a hug from me, and take one for yourself.
Diane R.
Nina, I have tears for you. The head says you are doing all the right
things but that doesn't make the pain go away. Sometimes the only
thing to get me through is to realize that our beloved fur friends do
not have the fear of death that we humans do, so they are blessed not
to have the
To put your mind to rest you might try an animal communicator. People on
this list have used several. I've lucked out in that I have friends who do
this (not professionally).
It is extremely hard.
If you have men who will
exclude any of
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