Yep, both candidates are politicians and that already makes them suspect. It
seems time spent in a government leadership position tends to have a negative
effect on all of them. Plus most of what we hear about them and their policies
is spin and the truth never fully comes out. Hard to make
One of the strangest problems I face with my FeLv+ and FIV+ cats is going to
the vet for a simple health issue. I bring in a fat, sleek cat with a URI and
the vet asks me, in the course of treatment Is this one of your FeLv+ or FIV+
cats? Well, I have to say yes because we are at the
Oh, sorry I haven't been involved with the list and FeLV kitties in a bit.
I've lost several cats this year and haven't felt like dealing with more sad
stories. A couple of those cats I lost were strays that didn't live with me
but it still broke my heart to lose them. The last one I lost
Good for you Natalie. I was wondering if anyone would bring
that up. I can't imagine the horror and fear Romney's dog felt while
his crate was on the top of his car! I'd like to strap Romney there!!
Lorrie
On 10-04, Natalie wrote:
Actually very simple: Romney's dog on top of the
This is why I don't think we should be discussing this on this list.
- Original Message -
From: Lorriemailto:felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
My vet actually treats those cats in a “special” way, knowing that their immune
systems are compromised..
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
molvey...@hotmail.com
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re:
I've never been a list moderator or been a position to direct anything except
to try to direct a bunch of cats to use the litter boxes. However, let me just
add a bit of wisdom or non-wisdom, however you want to view it. Discussing
politics and religion usually causes minor skirmishes and
What I do is buy the Large Dog size Frontline Plus and break it into 0.05
doses. Each tube that would treat one dog, treats seven cats. Since I have a
lot of cats, I buy the 6 pack, which costs me about $60 at Costco. I can treat
42 cats. It breaks down to about $1.45 a cat. However, if
All very valid points. Maybe I am one of those weird folks who just doesn't
get angry or upset if someone votes a different way. I guess that is why I
always thought it was odd that people get so mad about politics or religion,
cause I just don't care one way or the other ;) Also, any
It has sadly gotten to the point where I delete 90% of the emails I get from
this list without even reading them.
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday,
My current vet my previous vet all treat the symptoms like they would any
other cat, but I know plenty who don't.
Beth
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent:
This is why off-topic posts should be kept off list. I almost deleted this
because the subject line said President
The Advantage dosage I have used for years got from my vet is .4 if the cat
is 8lb or under .8 is over 8lbs
Just
remeber the dosage is different if you are using Advantage or
Of course you should ALWAYS ask a vet what the dosage is and what product is
safe for cats. If you look at the label of Revolution and of Frontline Plus,
you will see that the ingredients are exactly the same for dogs as for cats but
not the dosage. So you have to get the dosage correct.
I have to agree - this list used to be such a positive influence in my life
- I joined years ago when I had a kitten test false pos - and I stayed
because the people were so wonderful. It has gone way, way downhill.
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Elizabeth Malone malon...@yahoo.comwrote:
I
REALLY? Y'all think so? I don't think anyone is being mean and hateful, but
then again, I tend to see the positive side of most things :) Anywho, I'll ask
again DOES anyone have any advice on things I can do to make SuzieQ more
comfortable in her last days. She is 2-3 years old, was
I joined this list a few years ago when I got two adult FeLV cats, and I
have absolutely no complaints - how can anyone think that this group has
gone downhill with so many knowledgeable, wonderful and caring contributors
just because we go off-topic once in a while? It usually happens when no
My concern was that someone came for help and was concerned because of what
was being said. I don't know that I would call it going downhill-it is
difficult finding help when dealing with this virus and it is disheartening
when someone comes and can't get help. I remember being in their place and
I understand the purpose of this group, but I think it’s up to the mod to
decide of OT posts are permitted. I found the OT subjects interesting, but when
I didn’t feel like reading any more, I used the magical delete key.
I’d hate to see hurt feelings among a group of people who are united
I think yall misunderstand. I don't care about off topic posts and we used
to talk about everything under the sun. It's the JUDGEMENTALISM that has
been creeping in for a long, long time.
Declawing I don't do it, but one of our valued long term list members (at
least I hope she is even still
Give SusieQ lots of pain meds and ice cream. Oh wait, that's my prescription.
I guess all you can do is keep her happy and feeling good as long as possible.
You just address each problem as it comes up. Anything specific going on right
now? I know when the liver starts going it makes them
This group got me thru.that blind panic when my tucson was diagnosed w felv.
And I know irs helped sooo many people!
Christiane Biagi
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Elizabeth Malone malon...@yahoo.com wrote:
My concern was that someone came for help and was concerned because of what
was being
She does get nauseous a lot and we have her on some strong pain meds. She is
losing so much weight but I give her Fancy Feast and love on her. Unlike dogs,
cats are such picky eaters to begin with :( I wish she would eat burgers and
fries. The vet who diagnosed her has been our vet for a
Also - don't get Advantage Multi for Dogs and break it down for cats. Regular
Advantage for dogs is okay to break down for cats but don't use the Multi.
Some extra ingredient in there is bad news for cats. Obviously the cat Multi
is okay.
“I am not interested to know whether vivisection
My vet frowns on using any dog flea product on cats because she said even
though it is the same ingredients, the portions of the same ingredients may be
different. However, I understand that when we have many it is costly. Heck,
we brought home a kitty that had walking mange (chewing lice -
In the middle of our chit-chat about politics and hunters and vegetarian
diets, if someone had come in with the subject line: Cat Bitten by
Cobra, we would have been off the chatty stuff in an instant and onto
Google to look up what could be done for the cat while the caregiver was
taking him
Oh great!. My vet said the Multi was OK.But it still isn't working
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk]
It's been a while since I read that about the dog Multi, however I doubt
they've changed ingredients. I can't remember what ingredient it is in the dog
multi that's bad for cats. I found the info online though so I know it's out
there. Maybe what I read was wrong though. Find out what
Yeah, at the end even my dog didn't want to eat. And oh boy don't I know how
picky cats are compared to dogs!!! Maybe she'd like sardines. My cats like
canned chicken too. Of course chicken flavored baby food is always a hit.
You've got to keep her eating something. If she's still happy
Thanks for the info and advice, I just called the vet to ask about anti-nausea
meds
From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 16:30:45 -0400
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again
Yeah, at the end even my dog didn't want to eat. And oh boy
Well I Googled before did again. The only thing I can find is that some cats
are more prone to Moxidectin toxicity, which is why you have to be so careful
about dosages.
The Multi formula has meds for fleas - Imidacloprid heartworm larvae -
Moxidectin
Either way the dog Multi has bit had
I don't understand why people don't change the subject line when
the subject changes???
On 10-05, Beth wrote:
This is why off-topic posts should be kept off list. I almost deleted
this because the subject line said President
The Advantage dosage I have used for years got from
On 10-05, Beth wrote:
It has sadly gotten to the point where I delete 90% of the emails I get
from this list without even reading them.
I'm sorry you feel this way Beth. I LOVE this group. I'm a member of
five yahoo cat groups and this one is my absolute favorite.
Lorrie
I'm sorry I have to. I don't have time to read all the off-cat-topic posts.I
get hundreds of emails a day really the last thing I want to do in my free
time is sit at a computer.
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
From: Lorrie
I'm not sure that fleas can become immune to meds. The ones who are on the cat
die. The ones who hatch from the floor jump on the cat, die. The ones who lay
eggs are apparently still alive so how can they become immune to a product?
Unless Super Flea survives the treatment and goes on to
I guess that is the problem - they are survivng the treatment. They are
surviving in droves at my house. I have to flea comb every other day.
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To:
You can try gerber stage2 baby food...the meat kind (ham, beef, turkey, etc).
Not all thw nutrition a cat needs but it gets them something.
Christiane Biagi
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Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:
Thanks for the info and advice, I just called the vet to ask about
Certain antihistamines that are given to cats are also an appetite
stimulant. Chlorpheneramine is one. I think it's a little yellow pill
if I remember correctly. It's better than giving cortisone which also
increases appetite but I believe would be contraindicated for a cat who
has a
I have been trying that, she eats just a smidge and then turns away :( Thank
you :) Poor thing is just wasting away and I feel so helpless :(
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:58:20 -0400
From: ti...@mindspring.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again
We probably should not. But it is in fact true, although it got taken off
the table fairly early when the Dems realized it would never fly in that
political atmosphere. So what we have is a slight improvement on the
Republican health care plan.
Diane R.
From: Felvtalk
Oh, I didn't even think of that, I have used it for my other cats for that very
thing and forgot all about it THANKS :) I did the same thing with Miller, put
him through horrible chemo, made his last few weeks here miserable and within
three weeks of the first chemo treatment, he was gone :(
Just make sure to get her nausea taken care of. You hate to stimulate her
appetite but she still won't eat because she's nauseous. Then she's hungry and
nauseated.
You can also try Pepcid. Just regular not Pepcid AC. I think the anti-nausea
meds are better but you can try that until you
I use Cyproheptadine, which I used to take as Periactin liquid, samples from
a doc friend, when I was a skinny teenager. I use 1/54 daily for our 18+ yr
old CRF cat (he's huge!).
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Friday, October 05,
Sorry, I meant to write ¼ and NOT 1/54
my fingers just went crazy
..
From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 6:51 PM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Asking For Advice Again
I use Cyproheptadine, which I used to take as Periactin
I bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was completely
ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned it (because
that’s where I bought it). The vet on duty (not my regular) said she had
recently heard many similar complaints and surmised that fleas in our
Thanks! I know Walmart is selling a brand that is the same ingredients as
Frontline, but still much more than that!
Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org wrote:
I bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was completely
ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned
Honestly, I found that a good old fashion bath with dawn dish soap
and flea comb has been our best defense this year. ( along with a few house
bombs) It sucks having to give everyone a bath but i like it more then putting
greasy drops on my pets.
From:
Thanks, Lee, I was about to say that I have never seen anyone not get
responded to on this list in their time of need and emotional turmoil. Going
offtopic is almost inevitable when you're on a specialized list like this. I
think the OT discussion has been amazingly civil and respectful. As it
I'm not a big fan of spot-on flea meds, either, as it only makes scientific
sense that some will survive and be resistant to the poison (as with
bacteria and abx).
I've only had to use them (Advantage, which my vet said is the safest for
cats, but your mileage may vary) once when we had a flea
Remember that there are some cats that you cannot bathe, no matter what! It is
important to keep the soap on for about 5 minutes! Didsolve the little
bugger’s waxy coating! Natalie
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin
Potter
Sent: Friday, October
I agree, they have been very civil! Natalie
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Diane Rosenfeldt
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
Thanks, Lee, I was about to say that I have never
Has anyone used the friendly nematodes to spray around the house? That’s all
we use – except for a new cat coming in with fleas – they get zapped with it
only once, period!
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Kathryn Hargreaves
Sent: Friday, October
That would be a lot of baths.And a huge emergency bill for my wounds.
Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote:
Honestly, I found that a good old fashion bath with dawn dish soap
and flea comb has been our best defense this year. ( along with a few house
bombs) It sucks having to give
Another brain cell woke up and reminded me that there's also an antihistamine
called Ciproheptadine. I'm thinking that this is the one they use as an
appetite stimulant.
I just Googled it and sure enough, this is the one. If you want more
information on getting your cat to eat go to the
I just went to the home page. WOW! This is wonderful. Per cat it comes out
to be less than a dollar a dose. I'm sending this page on to a rescuer who is
not on this list but runs a rescued cat shelter and adoption center. Thanks
for mentioning it.
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and
I have to agree with Beth. I also delete messages with an OT subject line
which lately has been most of the messages. Only reason I checked this one is
I thought a member was having problems deleting posts.
Sharyl
From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
Find another vet like your old one. Keep looking until you find one.
Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:
My current vet my previous vet all treat the symptoms like they would any
other cat, but I know plenty who don't.
Beth
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
Non cat people just don't get it. I think they also are thinking more of
themselves than the cat. They just do not want to go to the trouble and puting
the cat to sleep is a way out for them. They can appear as caring, loving
people. My 2 girls have been with me for 5 years now and are
Amen to that! My vet and I watch Annie and Nitnoy and they get a blood panel
each year to be sure their immune system is where it should be. When something
looks abnormal, then my vet said we can get at it before it becomes a problem.
Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:
I’m
According to the investigator for the Humand Society here in eastrn Missouri,
when he is called to investigate a charge of animal abuse, he ends up reporting
the people on child abuse. The 2 seems to go hand in hand.
Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
Yes, definitely some people should
Right now I'm sticking with my current vet because he's a good diagnostician
and also gives me rescue rates. I think the problem with him is that he's
afraid to miss a symptom that might actually be from FIV or FeLv so he keeps
asking about the cats. He knows that I rescue hard cases. His
For some reason, my pride has not had a problem with fleas or ticks. Don't
know if the extreme heat killed them off or what. Now that we are getting some
rain, mosquitos are getting to be a problem at dusk and early am so the cats
only go out at midday. When we are all out, the mosquitos
I would need a transfusion every time I tried to bathe my guys!
GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
Remember that there are some cats that you cannot bathe, no matter what! It
is important to keep the soap on for about 5 minutes! Didsolve the little
bugger’s waxy coating! Natalie
There seem to be a lot of questions about the flea meds. I am having enough
problems in deciding to vaccinate or not. I have a couple who never go outside
so are not exposed to critters that might infect them and 1 is 14 years old. I
am afraid that vaccinating her at that age might do more
My cats have been prescribed Interceptor for heartworms caused by mosquitos. We
get them inside our house occasionally - but it only takes one bite. Granted
dogs get heartworms more often but vets are seeing an increase in cats. My
question is do you think Interceptor is safe for cats?
Thanks!
If he is just being over cautous, then he is okay. I would rather answer a
dozen questions and not miss a problem in the making than the other way.
Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
Right now I'm sticking with my current vet because he's a good diagnostician
and also gives me
Problem is that there are so many rumors floating around in print and cyber
space that it makes it hard to discren the truth.
Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote:
We probably should not. But it is in fact true, although it got taken off
the table fairly early when the Dems
I GOT rEVOLUTION ONCE AND IT CAUSED THEM TO LOOSE THEIR HAIR AT THE APPLICATION
POINT. THEN THE HAIR CAME BACK IN SNOW WHITE. NOT TOO FOUND OF THAT. VET
AGREED AND WE STOPPED IT.
Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm not sure that fleas can become immune to meds. The ones who
yOU ARE RIGHT. Everything we do concerns our ability to care for ourselves and
our cats. I was elieved when I got my electric bill today, only $66.00. It
was not too high this summer as I am in the woods and get a good breeze, but I
am afraid we are going to have a winter like our summer
When I started with the group, I got so many replys to my HELP cry that I lost
my fear of this disease. So much positive information from people who know it
from experience, not what they have read. THANK YOU to everyone for giving me
the courage to keep my girls and giving myself and them a
But isn't it the different opinions and even judgementalism that sparks new
ideas, makes people think? No, we should not get nasty, but especially
declawing, that is so detrimental to the cat. Isn't it better to find a
solution for the clawing on furniture, find out why the cat is doing it.
One thing I have heard that was negative, was about vets who want to put cats
down because of FELV. i think many of them just are not up to date and
sometimes they are afraid to try something new/different. If a vet says put
them down, I just don't go back to him/her and look for someone who
You sound like an intelligent person. You are right. I know people in my
community who vote democrate or repoublican just because everyone in their
family has always voted that way. They never stop to ask themselves if the
candidate is right or wrong. I go for the guy who sees things as I
I agree, my girlfriend went to vet in dispair trying to find something to help
her cats rid of the fleas and they offered her a discount for Revolution, once
upon her cats they too began losing their fur at the site of application, what
was worse some of them were fighting her to put on so it
Advantage is safer than is Revolution for cats, or so my then-vet said.
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:51 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
I GOT rEVOLUTION ONCE AND IT CAUSED THEM TO LOOSE THEIR HAIR AT THE
APPLICATION POINT. THEN THE HAIR CAME BACK IN SNOW WHITE. NOT TOO FOUND
OF THAT. VET
Either try a serum from Dr. Chachoua or give pain meds, if they would help.
Is it in her lungs? If fluid is building up around them from the cancer,
then have them tapped often enough so she is not in respiratory distress.
Cats really do not handle that well.
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:14 AM,
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