overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread Jane Lyons
The risk of vaccination and sarcoma is not inconsequential. Many veterinarians have altered their vaccination protocols to every three years because recent studies that have indicated we are over vaccinating our animals. In many instances one vaccination can protect an animal for its lifetime,

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread elizabeth trent
I lost my Felicity to vaccine-related fibro sarcoma http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/felicity.html They've changed the vaccine now, however...there is less risk. There is still risk, however. I can tell you though that with an aggressive fibro sarcoma, amputating the paw can prolong the

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread MaryChristine
just go and do a search for avma vaccination protocols. you'll at least get PROFESSIONAL references. not that that means they are impartial, but at least they're a little better than a lot that gets passed around on the net--for example, ALL the vet schools in the country have adopted the

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread Kelley Saveika
Inconsequential was probably a bad word to use, and I am sorry. I am sorry for those of you who have lost cats to this disease (or to anything else). I have a kitty with a heart murmur and I do not vaccinate her against anything. That's not because of the risk of cancer, though, it is because

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread Kelley Saveika
OH yes, my vet does offer the 3 year rabies vaccine, but state law says if the owner brings the cat in a day late, he's not allowed to give it. So if I have a cat due 4/1 and I bring the cat in 4/2 the cat can't ahve the vaccine, he has to have the one year one. On 6/21/07, Kelley Saveika

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread Kelley Saveika
Ok, here is his answer about VAS. I was freaking out because there is so much out of date, scary stuff on the Internet. The term Vaccine Associated Sarcomas has fallen out of favor and now termed Injection Site Sarcoma because they now believe that it is not the vaccine, but the actual

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread cindy reasoner
I have had my cats vaccinated every year but I need to talk to my vet about it. I sure don't want to take any chances. Have any of you heard of this new strain of calici virus? My vet sent a letter out to all his clients owned by cats. You have to go for a booster then go back in 3 weeks for

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread Gloria Lane
This is pretty interesting. I've heard for quite a while about the 3 year protocol, but out rescue still promotes a yearly protocol (although I don't do that). Was wondering about a good reference for this. I checked out the newvaccinationprotocols.com below, but see a lot of data

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread Kelley Saveika
The new calici virus, again, I think is scare tactics. The vaccine is made by Fort Dodge, and Ft Dodge is trying to make $ off it. They are the same ones who make the FIP vaccine. I do not use Ft Dodge vaccines on my cats. Again, this is something my vet has never seen a case of, no one has

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread MaryChristine
On 6/21/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new calici virus, again, I think is scare tactics. The vaccine is made by Fort Dodge, and Ft Dodge is trying to make $ off it. They are the same ones who make the FIP vaccine. I do not use Ft Dodge vaccines on my cats. Again, this is

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread Kelley Saveika
Gloria, Please consider using Merial vaccines. They are more expensive, but much superior to Ft Dodge. The only reference I use for vaccination is the American Association of Feline Practitioners website, or Best Friends. Other web sites may or may not be accurate and may or may not have a

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread MaryChristine
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. the new calici virus is neither new, nor a virus. like FIP, what has occurred, very infrequently, and only in hospital and shelter environments a FEW times since first identified is a MUTATED FORM OF ONE OF THE COMMON CALICI VIRUSES. each outbreak has

Re: overvaccination/new strain of calici

2007-06-21 Thread wendy
Hey Cindy, Check out this link from the FeLV talk archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/felvtalk@felineleukemia.org/msg28478.html I remembered it being brought up before, and that there was controversy surrounding it. :) Wendy --- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had my cats

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread Jane Lyons
http://www.caberfeidh.com/Revax.htm This is a very thoughtful and well reasoned article about the over vaccination problem. It is written by a dog 'person', but her research includes felines, and the issues are the same. Jane

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread cindy reasoner
All I know is what my vet told me. I guess I am the idiot for trusting him. I will do research about it. I'm sorry I can't get on this site everyday to read what people post. Cindy Reasoner --- MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. the new

RE: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
information these days even when I do read up. Kerry M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: overvaccination All I know is what my vet told me. I guess I

RE: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread cindy reasoner
to retain information these days even when I do read up. Kerry M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: overvaccination All I know

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread Marylyn
. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:03 AM Subject: overvaccination The risk of vaccination and sarcoma is not inconsequential. Many veterinarians have

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread Jane Lyons
On Jun 21, 2007, at 4:32 PM, Marylyn wrote: What you didn't mention is that Drs Dodds Schultz need funding for this research. I am contributing thru a group I belong to and, unfortunately, don't have the link any more. Perhaps someone else can provide the link on the research and

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread MaryChristine
incidentally, this is written by christie keith, one of the people from www.petconnection.com who've been on top of the pet-food recall from the beginning, and the person who did the chat on homemade cat food that i posted about awhile back; she does a weekly holistic pet chat at

Re: overvaccination

2007-06-21 Thread Jane Lyons
Yes ... she is a talented woman, very conscious. On Jun 21, 2007, at 8:46 PM, MaryChristine wrote: incidentally, this is written by christie keith, one of the people from www.petconnection.com who've been on top of the pet-food recall from the beginning, and the person who did the chat on