Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert and Pain Meds..

[dlgegg]

Anything that avoids putting things into their mouths is good by me.  Even 
Annie as sick as she was, she fought like a full grown tiger.  It was hard to 
hold her and administer the meds at the same time and I did not know anyone who 
was willing to help me.  Plus, she was is such a state by the time we finished 
that I felt guilty for doing this to her.

 Amani Oakley  wrote: 
> Hi Marge
> 
> My vet has mentioned to me that the transdermal isn’t always dependable, and 
> that different clients have had different experiences with it. I personally 
> prefer it because it avoids having to put something in the cat's mouth, and 
> especially with a really sick cat who may need other medications or food fed 
> to him or her, it is just one less thing to have to get into their mouths. I 
> have never had a problem with the effectiveness of the transdermal. However, 
> I agree with you that an immediate absorption of the buprenorphine close to 
> the site you want to effect, is a good option. That is a reason I like the 
> transdermal in the ear as well, since it is fairly close to the mouth as well.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
> Sent: June-08-17 7:27 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert and Pain Meds..
> 
> 
> 
> For my girl with the oral cancer, it seemed to help that it was given right 
> at the source of the pain. We got a curved tip syringe and it was tiny at the 
> end. Just slipped between her lips without seeming to cause pain. The 
> injectible was much slower to show effect, as was the transdermal.
> 
> But every cat and situation is different. I hope you find something that 
> works for Gilbert
> 
> 
> Margo
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> >From: Amani Oakley 
> >Sent: Jun 8, 2017 5:53 PM
> >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert and Pain Meds..
> >
> >Bob - my vets get buprenorphine in a transdermal cream which gets applied to 
> >the inner ear. The cream is specially compounded by a vet compounding 
> >pharmacy they use. I find it very effective and certainly helps not having 
> >to give it orally when the mouth hurts.
> >
> >Amani
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> >ROBERT CHAPEL
> >Sent: June-08-17 2:28 PM
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert and Pain Meds..
> >
> >Thanks Sheri...
> >
> >The medication I mentioned ( Suboxone) is the brand name for Buphenorphine ( 
> >which I could not recollect at the time of my note) I have a LOT of 
> >experience with  _ Buphenorphine_ from my months with my Little Yogi who was 
> >plagued with Uveitis... He was on it quite a while...   I gave a syringe to 
> >Gilbert and it appeared to help a bit...   may be the best choice... I don't 
> >know, but wanted to ask the group if they've used other things...  
> >Particularly since Gilberts mouth hurts quite a bit and I'd actually prefer 
> >something injectable or something that could be added to his food   The 
> >only reliable way to medicate him right now without causing him discomfort 
> >is subq ...   so I guess he'll have to have a moments discomfort in exchange 
> >for a longer period of more comfort...
> >>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert and Pain Meds..

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Margo

My vet has mentioned to me that the transdermal isn’t always dependable, and 
that different clients have had different experiences with it. I personally 
prefer it because it avoids having to put something in the cat's mouth, and 
especially with a really sick cat who may need other medications or food fed to 
him or her, it is just one less thing to have to get into their mouths. I have 
never had a problem with the effectiveness of the transdermal. However, I agree 
with you that an immediate absorption of the buprenorphine close to the site 
you want to effect, is a good option. That is a reason I like the transdermal 
in the ear as well, since it is fairly close to the mouth as well.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: June-08-17 7:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert and Pain Meds..



For my girl with the oral cancer, it seemed to help that it was given right at 
the source of the pain. We got a curved tip syringe and it was tiny at the end. 
Just slipped between her lips without seeming to cause pain. The injectible was 
much slower to show effect, as was the transdermal.

But every cat and situation is different. I hope you find something that works 
for Gilbert


Margo


-Original Message-
>From: Amani Oakley 
>Sent: Jun 8, 2017 5:53 PM
>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert and Pain Meds..
>
>Bob - my vets get buprenorphine in a transdermal cream which gets applied to 
>the inner ear. The cream is specially compounded by a vet compounding pharmacy 
>they use. I find it very effective and certainly helps not having to give it 
>orally when the mouth hurts.
>
>Amani
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
>ROBERT CHAPEL
>Sent: June-08-17 2:28 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert and Pain Meds..
>
>Thanks Sheri...
>
>The medication I mentioned ( Suboxone) is the brand name for Buphenorphine ( 
>which I could not recollect at the time of my note) I have a LOT of experience 
>with  _ Buphenorphine_ from my months with my Little Yogi who was plagued with 
>Uveitis... He was on it quite a while...   I gave a syringe to Gilbert and it 
>appeared to help a bit...   may be the best choice... I don't know, but wanted 
>to ask the group if they've used other things...  Particularly since Gilberts 
>mouth hurts quite a bit and I'd actually prefer something injectable or 
>something that could be added to his food   The only reliable way to 
>medicate him right now without causing him discomfort is subq ...   so I guess 
>he'll have to have a moments discomfort in exchange for a longer period of 
>more comfort...
>>
>
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