[Felvtalk] Pain Meds for Gilbert....

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

Thank you for all the responses re: pain meds  I was hoping there 
was something out there that I hadn't heard about ( actually there are 
many but I was hoping for first hand experience)... The shelter is 
mulling over providing Buprenorphine... but.. in the meantime I got them 
to reinstate his prednisolone ( which is seemingly already 
helpingHOPE it continues to do so)...  Wondering if anyone had used 
larger doses than 5mg BID..
This is a cat  that probably doesn't have a long time to go but one 
never knows  I don't want to play " fast and loose"  with his other 
organ systems by giving to much of a a steroid... Yes... I want him 
comfortable but it would be awful if the tumor receded and I ended up 
screwing up his remaining days with Cushings or Severe Diabetes...  I 
did a rather extensive overview of pain meds for Cats today and found it 
very hard to obtain definitive information  Probably need to go to 
original Vet Sources  Sure hope kitties have natural endorphins that 
keep their pain levels lower because it is DAMN hard to find stuff that 
will help their pain
BTW...  I gave him a little alprazolam the other night when he was in 
REAL pain ( prior to redosing with Pred)
He had a paradoxical reaction at first ( acting kitten like and climbing 
things he had NO business being on ...considering that the drug had 
completely screwed up his balance...  He acted like a drunk essentially 
until enough time passed that he could sleep it off ( which he did most 
of the next day)... On the plus side.. he was not in obvious pain for at 
least 10 hours!!...  


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Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert

[Ardy Robertson]

I am probably a little late responding – I didn’t check my emails for a few 
days, but I used buprenorphine on my Tigger also for his pain. One night during 
the night he came running and jumped up in bed with us and was showing signs of 
pain. I cut the dose in fourths, so I was giving him the smallest amount that 
would work, and I gave it to him in a syringe without the needle part. He 
seemed to ask for it. It did not make him drowsy, and worked very fast.

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri 
Burbridge
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 1:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert

 

Thank you for loving him so hard during his last days. It will undoubtedly be 
difficult to see him go but it's the price we pay to give them the quality of 
life they deserve. 

My Mo was on buprenorphine in his last week. It was in little syringes that 
went right on the gums/tongue, maybe it would help? It can make them sleepy but 
I don't think it put him in a stupor.

I hope you find something to help him, it's so hard to see them struggle.

 

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017, 1:04 PM  > wrote:

While you are away from home, you could place pillows or soft mats around his 
favorite up high places in case he falls and block off stairs.  This way he 
could still be free to roam.  I hope you will find some meds for him and he can 
be close to you when the time comes.  As for not getting attached, that is 
impossible.  Five minutes after they are with you, you have lost.  God b e with 
you both and give him a peaceful passing.

 ROBERT CHAPEL  > 
wrote:
> My latest boy Gilbert... who is not FeLV but does have a Cancerous
Tumor behind his Right eye that is extending into his jaw and mouth, is
beginning to show signs of pain ( periodically bats at his jaw with his
paw and rubs his eye and jaw repeatedly against objects...eating is off
and he shifts food to the left side of his mouth and uses rocking
motions of his head to chew rather than opening and closing his jaw
I have a couple of suboxone syringes left and I'm sure I can get the
shelter to prescribe pain meds ( I'm fostering him for them) but wanted
to ask you folks what you all have used in the past for pain control or
amelioration  I don't want the guy to hurt but don't want him to
have to spend all his days in a stupor either as he is not , apparently,
in such constant pain that he is not interested in appreciating the day
or exploring a little bit.  As predicted I am going to be
heartbroken when he passes I thought that knowing in advance that I
was taking a dying cat I might be less prone to intense attachment but
apparently I am not built that way this boy is one of the sweetest,
gentlest cats I have ever met all he wants is to be near people...to
sit on laps and to be petted ( perhaps being Brain damaged affected the
" ignore" center in his brain : )...  The fact that his balance is a
little off and he ofen holds his head at an odd angle just adds to the
affection I feel for this brave guy ( Yeah, I know... it's built into
his  genetics to survive but there is still something courageous about
watching this boy non complainingly doing his best to make do...   Have
any of you used meds that helped with pain that did not completely put
your cats into a stupor   I'm worried about my boy because he is
already less than able with his balance and I am not always home...
would like for him not to hurt himself attempting to jump on something
and missisng..   Ultimately I could keep him confined to a "safe"
room... but that is a last resort thing. I took him from the shelter
so that he would not be confined and would like him to have free rein
for as long as I can.
Thanks for any experiences you might be able to contribute

Bob


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Re: [Felvtalk] Krammer

[Katherine K.]

He doesn't have a fever and his weight is steady, so I'm bringing him home
with subcu fluids and a dose of appetite stimulate. I already opted not to
do chemo for the nasal tumor so we're just enjoying life with him one day
at a time.

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Sheri Burbridge 
wrote:

> Keeping you and Krammie in my thoughts today, I hope he is feeling better
> tonight. Please let us know how you're both doing when you can.
>
> Sheri
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 9:00 AM kat  wrote:
>
>> Prayers & Hugs for both Krammer & you.
>>
>> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2017 at 8:51 AM
>> *From:* "Katherine K." 
>> *To:* "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Krammer
>> Hi everyone, please keep my 14 year old tuxedo boy in your thoughts
>> today. Krammie declined over the weekend and was very lethargic, not eating
>> much, and has the sneezes and sniffles (he has a nasal tumor which
>> is causing to the last part).  I dropped him at the vet this morning for
>> monitoring while I am at work. Thank you.
>>
>> Katherine
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[Jennifer Olson]

Praying for Krammie & you.
Jen
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Re: [Felvtalk] Krammer

[Sheri Burbridge]

Keeping you and Krammie in my thoughts today, I hope he is feeling better
tonight. Please let us know how you're both doing when you can.

Sheri

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 9:00 AM kat  wrote:

> Prayers & Hugs for both Krammer & you.
>
> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2017 at 8:51 AM
> *From:* "Katherine K." 
> *To:* "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Krammer
> Hi everyone, please keep my 14 year old tuxedo boy in your thoughts today.
> Krammie declined over the weekend and was very lethargic, not eating much,
> and has the sneezes and sniffles (he has a nasal tumor which is causing to
> the last part).  I dropped him at the vet this morning for monitoring while
> I am at work. Thank you.
>
> Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] Krammer

[kat]

Prayers & Hugs for both Krammer & you.

 

Kat (Mew Jersey)

 

Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 at 8:51 AM
From: "Katherine K." 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Krammer



Hi everyone, please keep my 14 year old tuxedo boy in your thoughts today. Krammie declined over the weekend and was very lethargic, not eating much, and has the sneezes and sniffles (he has a nasal tumor which is causing to the last part).  I dropped him at the vet this morning for monitoring while I am at work. Thank you.

 

Katherine

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[Felvtalk] Krammer

[Katherine K.]

Hi everyone, please keep my 14 year old tuxedo boy in your thoughts today.
Krammie declined over the weekend and was very lethargic, not eating much,
and has the sneezes and sniffles (he has a nasal tumor which is causing to
the last part).  I dropped him at the vet this morning for monitoring while
I am at work. Thank you.

Katherine
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