Re: [Felvtalk] Question

2017-12-03 Thread dlgegg 
Are vet schools doing much to find a cure?

 Amani Oakley  wrote: 
> Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for afflicted 
> cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary arsenal to combat it.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
> Robertson
> Sent: December-03-17 12:00 PM
> To: 'Margo'; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> 
> Margo - I don't know much about FIV - is that fatal as often as FeLV?
> 
> Thank you,
> Ardy 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:36 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> 
> 
> Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, 
> water and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other 
> than by physical contact. 
> 
> Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission;
> 
> "FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies"
> 
> FelV spreads thru close friendly contact
> 
> FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are 
> altered...right?)
> 
> Margo
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> >From: dlg...@windstream.net
> >Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> >
> >Since the vet is not worried, why should you?  I thought about that when I 
> >took Annie in.
> >
> > Ardy Robertson  wrote: 
> >> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in 
> >> his carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed 
> >> concerned about spreading it to the other patients.
> >
> >Ardy
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> >Of Theresa O'Rourke
> >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM
> >To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> >
> >Thank you Lorrie,
> >
> >So happy I joined this group.
> >I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And 
> >clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after.
> >However, I won’t do this again,
> >Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through 
> >this again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure 
> >that is NOT NECESSARY.
> >IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so 
> >neurotic. 
> >
> >
> >Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie  wrote:
> >> 
> >> This is my experience too.  I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9
> >> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK.   These cats lived
> >> with many other negative cats.  These were adult cats... I understand 
> >> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully 
> >> developed.
> >> 
> >> Lorrie
> >> 
> >>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was 
> >>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the 
> >>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) 
> >>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy 
> >>> (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in the 
> >>> house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and 
> >>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read 
> >>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with 
> >>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens.
> >>> 
> >>> Amani
> >>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question

2017-12-03 Thread Amani Oakley 
Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for afflicted 
cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary arsenal to combat it.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: December-03-17 12:00 PM
To: 'Margo'; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question

Margo - I don't know much about FIV - is that fatal as often as FeLV?

Thank you,
Ardy 

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:36 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question


Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, water 
and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other than by 
physical contact. 

Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission;

"FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies"

FelV spreads thru close friendly contact

FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are 
altered...right?)

Margo



-Original Message-
>From: dlg...@windstream.net
>Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
>
>Since the vet is not worried, why should you?  I thought about that when I 
>took Annie in.
>
> Ardy Robertson  wrote: 
>> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his 
>> carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed 
>> concerned about spreading it to the other patients.
>
>Ardy
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>Of Theresa O'Rourke
>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM
>To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
>
>Thank you Lorrie,
>
>So happy I joined this group.
>I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And 
>clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after.
>However, I won’t do this again,
>Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through this 
>again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is 
>NOT NECESSARY.
>IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so 
>neurotic. 
>
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie  wrote:
>> 
>> This is my experience too.  I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9
>> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK.   These cats lived
>> with many other negative cats.  These were adult cats... I understand 
>> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully 
>> developed.
>> 
>> Lorrie
>> 
>>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote:
>>> 
>>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was 
>>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the 
>>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) 
>>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy 
>>> (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in the 
>>> house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and 
>>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read 
>>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with 
>>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens.
>>> 
>>> Amani
>>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question

2017-12-03 Thread Ardy Robertson 
I try to do that too -- although I am surrounded by Amish farms who do not 
neuter their animals, and I have so many strays coming here - mostly for food. 
I do neuter as many as I can after they have been here for a while.

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dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 6:29 AM
To: Margo ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question

Re:  spay/neuter, First I give them 2 weeks for an owner to show up and then it 
is off to the vet for an exam and spay/neuter.  I do not want to be a 
contributor to unwanted kittens/puppies plus they will live longer healthier 
lives.

 Margo  wrote: 
> 
Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, water 
and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other than by 
physical contact. 

Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission;

"FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies"

FelV spreads thru close friendly contact

FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are 
altered...right?)

Margo



-Original Message-
>From: dlg...@windstream.net
>Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
>
>Since the vet is not worried, why should you?  I thought about that when I 
>took Annie in.
>
> Ardy Robertson  wrote: 
>> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his 
>> carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed 
>> concerned about spreading it to the other patients.
>
>Ardy
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>Of Theresa O'Rourke
>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM
>To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
>
>Thank you Lorrie,
>
>So happy I joined this group.
>I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And 
>clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after.
>However, I won’t do this again,
>Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through this 
>again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is 
>NOT NECESSARY.
>IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so 
>neurotic. 
>
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie  wrote:
>> 
>> This is my experience too.  I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9
>> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK.   These cats lived
>> with many other negative cats.  These were adult cats... I understand 
>> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully 
>> developed.
>> 
>> Lorrie
>> 
>>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote:
>>> 
>>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was 
>>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the 
>>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) 
>>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy 
>>> (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in the 
>>> house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and 
>>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read 
>>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with 
>>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens.
>>> 
>>> Amani
>>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question

2017-12-03 Thread Ardy Robertson 
Margo - I don't know much about FIV - is that fatal as often as FeLV?

Thank you,
Ardy 

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:36 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question


Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, water 
and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other than by 
physical contact. 

Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission;

"FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies"

FelV spreads thru close friendly contact

FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are 
altered...right?)

Margo



-Original Message-
>From: dlg...@windstream.net
>Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
>
>Since the vet is not worried, why should you?  I thought about that when I 
>took Annie in.
>
> Ardy Robertson  wrote: 
>> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his 
>> carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed 
>> concerned about spreading it to the other patients.
>
>Ardy
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>Of Theresa O'Rourke
>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM
>To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
>
>Thank you Lorrie,
>
>So happy I joined this group.
>I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And 
>clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after.
>However, I won’t do this again,
>Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through this 
>again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is 
>NOT NECESSARY.
>IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so 
>neurotic. 
>
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie  wrote:
>> 
>> This is my experience too.  I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9
>> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK.   These cats lived
>> with many other negative cats.  These were adult cats... I understand 
>> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully 
>> developed.
>> 
>> Lorrie
>> 
>>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote:
>>> 
>>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was 
>>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the 
>>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) 
>>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy 
>>> (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in the 
>>> house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and 
>>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read 
>>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with 
>>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens.
>>> 
>>> Amani
>>> 
>> 
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