[Felvtalk] Section 1983

2012-06-05 Thread Kat Parker
Hiya Kathryn and everyone.   The federal statute you were referring to,
Kathryn, is Section 1983, and my step-brother, Sheldon Eisenberg, is the
one who wrote the Section 1983 to the rescue, on Nathan's site you found,
and Sheldon used it in court representing Cathy Nguyen and Nathan against
Los Angeles County Dept of Animal Care and Control, which he won a
stipulated order from the judge in that lawsuit. (Not that it does any good
at all, now, but ...  whatever.   lol)

I did not intend to correct any person in particular, just wanted to
mention the name of the law, which is really easy to forget, actually, but
really wonderful to be able to use for all being a FEDERAL STATUTE, and
there are a lot of rescuers in here.

~Kat~


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Cc:
 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:21:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Cat shelters
 What do you mean by ``rules''?   Laws?   If they are not in compliance
 with laws, then turn them in.   (Of course, if you're a rescuer pulling
 from these pounds, then you have to protect yourself using the federal law
 Section 1982: http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=728

 As for the citizens, put ads in the papers, and maybe even send out
 informative flyers (ask for the money to do so via a Chipin).

 You can also try to get social media attention via the various animal
 blogs that push shelter reform, e.g., YesBiscuit!.

 Who holds the contract with the pound?

 Don't give up.   It may take years, and we're seeing progress even in TX.

 Probably the moderator would like us to take this offline by now. . .

 On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The problem here is that I'm in Texas.  Killing is the State Sport.
 Unfortunately, most of the Animal Control Officers don't even know the new
 rules, which include acceptance of TNR as a way to control outside cats.
 They are still terrorizing people who have a small batch of backyard cats
 who are spayed/neutered and have their rabies shots. They are counting
 these cats in the 8 cat limit when the new code states specifically that
 they are NOT included in the cat limit rule.  They recently reduced the
 number of cats/dogs allowed to 8 from 10.  This makes no sense except when
 you realize that they will now charge for an excess animal permit.  Then
 it makes sense to reduce the legal limit so that a number of people are now
 over the limit and have to purchase the permit.  Nasty little tricks.
 People who have received a citation in the past for having over the
 permissible limit of cats/dogs are prohibited from purchasing the permit.
 More nonsense.  It would help if all the ACO's were required to read the
 new codes and then be tested on whether or not they understand them.  The
 citizens of this city don't know the rules either.  Cat haters are
 terrorizing cat caring neighbors, threatening them with reporting them when
 there's nothing to report because the cat caregivers are actually in
 compliance.  I think that ignorance is our worst enemy. Even when we get
 good ordinances, they don't work because no one knows about them.


___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


Re: [Felvtalk] Section 1983

2012-06-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Oops, sorry for the typo.   And I'm a proofreader!

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Kat Parker korruptaki...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hiya Kathryn and everyone.   The federal statute you were referring to,
 Kathryn, is Section 1983, and my step-brother, Sheldon Eisenberg, is the
 one who wrote the Section 1983 to the rescue, on Nathan's site you found,
 and Sheldon used it in court representing Cathy Nguyen and Nathan against
 Los Angeles County Dept of Animal Care and Control, which he won a
 stipulated order from the judge in that lawsuit. (Not that it does any good
 at all, now, but ...  whatever.   lol)

 I did not intend to correct any person in particular, just wanted to
 mention the name of the law, which is really easy to forget, actually, but
 really wonderful to be able to use for all being a FEDERAL STATUTE, and
 there are a lot of rescuers in here.

 ~Kat~


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Cc:
 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:21:00 -0800
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Cat shelters
 What do you mean by ``rules''?   Laws?   If they are not in compliance
 with laws, then turn them in.   (Of course, if you're a rescuer pulling
 from these pounds, then you have to protect yourself using the federal law
 Section 1982: http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=728

 As for the citizens, put ads in the papers, and maybe even send out
 informative flyers (ask for the money to do so via a Chipin).

 You can also try to get social media attention via the various animal
 blogs that push shelter reform, e.g., YesBiscuit!.

 Who holds the contract with the pound?

 Don't give up.   It may take years, and we're seeing progress even in TX.

 Probably the moderator would like us to take this offline by now. . .

 On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The problem here is that I'm in Texas.  Killing is the State Sport.
 Unfortunately, most of the Animal Control Officers don't even know the new
 rules, which include acceptance of TNR as a way to control outside cats.
 They are still terrorizing people who have a small batch of backyard cats
 who are spayed/neutered and have their rabies shots. They are counting
 these cats in the 8 cat limit when the new code states specifically that
 they are NOT included in the cat limit rule.  They recently reduced the
 number of cats/dogs allowed to 8 from 10.  This makes no sense except when
 you realize that they will now charge for an excess animal permit.  Then
 it makes sense to reduce the legal limit so that a number of people are now
 over the limit and have to purchase the permit.  Nasty little tricks.
 People who have received a citation in the past for having over the
 permissible limit of cats/dogs are prohibited from purchasing the permit.
 More nonsense.  It would help if all the ACO's were required to read the
 new codes and then be tested on whether or not they understand them.  The
 citizens of this city don't know the rules either.  Cat haters are
 terrorizing cat caring neighbors, threatening them with reporting them when
 there's nothing to report because the cat caregivers are actually in
 compliance.  I think that ignorance is our worst enemy. Even when we get
 good ordinances, they don't work because no one knows about them.


 ___
 Felvtalk mailing list
 Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org




-- 

Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!

If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their
life: http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm

If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation:
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org
___
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org