Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 33, Issue 10

2017-01-11 Thread Sandy

Terri I hope the best for your kitty cat 
Sandy W 

- Original Message -

From: "Terri Knight"  
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 5:39:27 PM 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 33, Issue 10 

Thanks everyone for the awesome response and advice. We will be back at the vet 
on Friday for the next round of blood tests and I will discuss all options and 
your advice with the vet. 

I really am extremely grateful. 

Terri 

On 11 Jan 2017 23:46, "ROBERT CHAPEL" < bcha...@optonline.net > wrote: 


Nancy 

In keeping with Amani's response...would be VERY interested to know if the cats 
( with which you have had success) were ( are) FeLV+ per IFA or FeLV at 
all. 
Owners of FeLV Kitties can get desperate to find ANYTHING that might help their 
cats and can spend their way into oblivion with useless elixers that will leave 
them cash poor for the ( sometimes) more expensive drugs that stand a better 
chance of success Personally I can't imagine how Omega 3's are going to 
have any appreciable effect on depressed RBC's. Aracept... as pointed out 
could be effective if the anemia is regenerativepossibly harmful if not ( 
cats can respond with antibodies to Epo and the like with antibodies that 
further depress their blood count 
If you have positive experience with the above would love to hear about it 
even better if you have any reference papers to point us to regarding the 
successful use of Omega 3's in FeLV Kitties we would ALL, I am sure, be very 
interested as they are widely available and certainly reasonably priced ( 
generally) 
thanks... 


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I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot express how 
important it is to put your cats on an omega 3 supplement. Moxxor is 100% pure. 
Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and kiwifruitseed oil. No preservatives, 
pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs, or excipients of any kind. My two FeLV cats 
are on Moxxor and knock on wood have been doing well. They also take the Rx 
Vitamins for Pets ~ Liquid Immuno. All natural. For Moxxor, please please come 
join my FB page at https://www.facebook.com/moxxorforabetterlife/ to learn more 
about this. I swear by it for both me and for my two girls. 

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Hi Nancy 

Were your cats in anemic crisis when you put them on the supplements, or were 
they positive for FeLV but not in crisis? I am interested to know if your 
supplements turned around severe non-regenerative anemia. I am sure I am not 
telling you anything new when I indicate that the problem is that if a cat is 
severely anemic and not producing his/her own red cells (low or insufficient 
reticulocytes) then there is very little time to address the crisis. Moreover, 
as I have posted before epogen, and other erythropoietin-type mimics, act on 
the red cell precursors in the bone marrow, signalling to them to produce more 
red cells. If the precursor cells are damaged or killed by the virus, which 
they often are, and that is why all three cell lines (red cells, white cells 
and platelets) are often affected, then no amount of erythropoietin, ?yelling? 
at a dead precursor cell, will get it to re-start red cell production. The only 
thing I have found that has a chance to do that is the Winstrol, co 
upled with the Doxycycline. The Winstrol promotes the development of bone 
marrow and has been found to be effective for conditions such as osteoporosis. 
It promotes the growth and increased density of bone. 

Were you able to restart bone marrow red cell production with the supplements 
you are referencing? I would be very interested to hear if that is the case 
since we 

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 33, Issue 10

2017-01-11 Thread Terri Knight
Thanks everyone for the awesome response and advice. We will be back at the
vet on Friday for the next round of blood tests and I will discuss all
options and your advice with the vet.

I really am extremely grateful.

Terri

On 11 Jan 2017 23:46, "ROBERT CHAPEL"  wrote:

> Nancy
>
> In keeping with Amani's response...would be VERY interested to know if the
> cats ( with which you have had success) were ( are) FeLV+ per IFA or
> FeLV at all.
> Owners of FeLV Kitties can get desperate to find ANYTHING that might help
> their cats and can spend their way into oblivion with useless elixers that
> will leave them cash poor for the ( sometimes) more expensive drugs that
> stand a better chance of success Personally I can't imagine how Omega
> 3's are going to  have any appreciable effect on depressed RBC's.
> Aracept... as pointed out could be effective if the anemia is
> regenerativepossibly harmful if not ( cats can respond with antibodies
> to Epo and the like with antibodies that further depress their blood
> count
> If you have positive experience with the above would love to hear about
> it  even better if you have any reference papers to point us to
> regarding the successful use of Omega 3's in FeLV Kitties we would ALL, I
> am sure, be very interested as they are widely available and certainly
> reasonably priced ( generally)
> thanks...
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 01:00 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> wrote:
>
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>> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:31:17 -0500
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>>
>> I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot
>> express how important it is to put your cats on an omega 3 supplement.
>> Moxxor is 100% pure.  Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and kiwifruitseed
>> oil.  No preservatives, pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs, or excipients of
>> any kind.  My two FeLV cats are on Moxxor and knock on wood have been doing
>> well.  They also take the Rx Vitamins for Pets ~ Liquid Immuno.  All
>> natural.  For Moxxor, please please come join my FB page at
>> https://www.facebook.com/moxxorforabetterlife/to learn more about
>> this.  I swear by it for both me and for my two girls.
>>
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>> [Felvtalk] Omega 3s
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>>
>> Hi Nancy
>>
>> Were your cats in anemic crisis when you put them on the supplements, or
>> were they positive for FeLV but not in crisis? I am interested to know if
>> your supplements turned around severe non-regenerative anemia. I am sure I
>> am not telling you anything new when I indicate that the problem is that if
>> a cat is severely anemic and not producing his/her own red cells (low or
>> insufficient reticulocytes) then there is very little time to address the
>> crisis. Moreover, as I have posted before epogen, and other
>> erythropoietin-type mimics, act on the red cell precursors in the bone
>> marrow, signalling to them to produce more red cells. If the precursor
>> cells are damaged or killed by the virus, which they often are, and that is
>> why all three cell lines (red cells, white cells and platelets) are often
>> affected, then no amount of erythropoietin, ?yelling? at a dead precursor
>> cell, will get it to re-start red cell production. The only thing I have
>> found that has a chance to do that is the Winstrol, co
>>  upled with the Doxycycline. The Winstrol promotes the development of
>> bone marrow and has been found to be effective for conditions such as
>> osteoporosis. It promotes the growth and increased density of bone.
>>
>> Were you able to restart bone marrow red cell production with the
>> supplements you are referencing? I would be very interested to hear if that
>> is the case since we certainly need as many weapons in our 

Re: [Felvtalk] Michael's last hope

2017-01-11 Thread dlgegg
when i had cncer, they gave me epogen.  i had a reaction to it and they stopped.

 gidge...@aol.com wrote: 
> Terri,  I saw this post and am praying for your little Michael!  Can they 
> start him on Aranesp (darbepoetin) or Epogen, or even Winstrol (which I think 
> has been mentioned here before?).  I know with Aranesp, you give the shot 1 
> time a week and when it is within normal range, begin to space out the 
> injections to find the right dose to  hold it in that normal range.  Epogen 
> is given 3 times a week and when in normal range, one dosage is skipped and 
> they search for that perfect dosage.  
> 
> 
> Could you get a copy of that most recent blood work as I can read blood work 
> and am wondering if anything else is off. IF so, once it is treated, things 
> may go back into place with other levels.  This is what happened to my baby 
> Kit.  I immediately put her on Rx Vitamins for Pets ~ Liquid Immuno.  Also 
> she was put on antibiotics for fever and infection.  I really would like to 
> see the blood work.  If you want, you can send to me privately at 
> gidge...@aol.com
> 
> 
> Nancy
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Terri 
> To: felvtalk 
> Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2017 6:52 pm
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Michael's last hope
> 
> 
> 
> Hi everyone.
>  
> My little boy Michael is 3 and was diagnosed just over a week ago. I noticed 
> he had lost weight and wasn’t quite himself but nothing major, or so I 
> thought. I got him as a stray kitten, had him tested – he was negative for 
> felv, and vaccinated him every year.
>  
> On Fri 30 Dec I took him to the vet, she did blood tests to check what could 
> be wrong with him and told me that when he came up positive she didn’t do any 
> further tests. She said he was anemic and prescribed cortisone every day and 
> vitamin B shots every week for 4 weeks. I asked what his lifespan would be 
> and she told me not very long and that there was nothing else we could do 
> except a blood transfusion at some stage.
>  
> After coming home from a new years eve party I found him limping and he would 
> not stop moaning, I gave him an anti inflammatory that he had been given for 
> a previous leg injury hoping it would help until morning when a vet opened. 
> It helped his leg but he started moaning again 2 hours later. I finally found 
> a vet that could help on new years day. I told the vet about his history and 
> what had happened earlier that morning, by this time his leg was fine so the 
> vet gave him a strong pain killer thinking he was moaning in pain and told me 
> to bring him back later if it didn’t help. I took him back where a different 
> vet saw him, he did blood tests and the results were terrible, he also felt 
> that he had some sort of neurological issue so he had to be admitted to 
> hospital. His platelet and red blood cell count was extremely low and he was 
> not responding to treatment, I made the decision for him to have a blood 
> transfusion which he received on 3 Jan Tuesday evening. I fetched him on 
> Wednesday and had him tested again on the Friday, his results were still 
> better but there was no sign of his body regenerating. On the weekend he just 
> seemed to improve so much, is appetite was back and he had interest in 
> playing like his old self again, but Monday’s results did not reflect his 
> behavior. His body was not regenerating and his counts had dropped slightly.
>  
> My next step is blood tests and decisions on Friday. I am devastated and 
> don’t know if there is anything else that we can do. If anyone can give any 
> advice or suggestions I would really appreciate it. At the moment he is on 
> Baytril and a nutritional tonic.
>  
> Kind regards,
> Terri Knight
>  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Omega 3s

2017-01-11 Thread dlgegg
sounds like that is why Nancy got on the list.  I give my 2 older cats krill 
oil for their joints but asked my vet about dosage first.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 33, Issue 10

2017-01-11 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL

Nancy

In keeping with Amani's response...would be VERY interested to know if 
the cats ( with which you have had success) were ( are) FeLV+ per 
IFA or FeLV at all.
Owners of FeLV Kitties can get desperate to find ANYTHING that might 
help their cats and can spend their way into oblivion with useless 
elixers that will leave them cash poor for the ( sometimes) more 
expensive drugs that stand a better chance of success Personally I 
can't imagine how Omega 3's are going to  have any appreciable effect on 
depressed RBC's.   Aracept... as pointed out could be effective if 
the anemia is regenerativepossibly harmful if not ( cats can respond 
with antibodies to Epo and the like with antibodies that further depress 
their blood count
If you have positive experience with the above would love to hear about 
it  even better if you have any reference papers to point us to 
regarding the successful use of Omega 3's in FeLV Kitties we would ALL, 
I am sure, be very interested as they are widely available and certainly 
reasonably priced ( generally)

thanks...


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Subject: [Felvtalk] Omega 3s
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I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot 
express how important it is to put your cats on an omega 3 supplement. 
Moxxor is 100% pure.  Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and 
kiwifruitseed oil.  No preservatives, pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs, 
or excipients of any kind.  My two FeLV cats are on Moxxor and knock 
on wood have been doing well.  They also take the Rx Vitamins for Pets 
~ Liquid Immuno.  All natural.  For Moxxor, please please come join my 
FB page at https://www.facebook.com/moxxorforabetterlife/to learn 
more about this.  I swear by it for both me and for my two girls.


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From: Amani Oakley To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: 
[Felvtalk] Omega 3s

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Hi Nancy

Were your cats in anemic crisis when you put them on the supplements, 
or were they positive for FeLV but not in crisis? I am interested to 
know if your supplements turned around severe non-regenerative anemia. 
I am sure I am not telling you anything new when I indicate that the 
problem is that if a cat is severely anemic and not producing his/her 
own red cells (low or insufficient reticulocytes) then there is very 
little time to address the crisis. Moreover, as I have posted before 
epogen, and other erythropoietin-type mimics, act on the red cell 
precursors in the bone marrow, signalling to them to produce more red 
cells. If the precursor cells are damaged or killed by the virus, 
which they often are, and that is why all three cell lines (red cells, 
white cells and platelets) are often affected, then no amount of 
erythropoietin, ?yelling? at a dead precursor cell, will get it to 
re-start red cell production. The only thing I have found that has a 
chance to do that is the Winstrol, co
 upled with the Doxycycline. The Winstrol promotes the development of 
bone marrow and has been found to be effective for conditions such as 
osteoporosis. It promotes the growth and increased density of bone.


Were you able to restart bone marrow red cell production with the 
supplements you are referencing? I would be very interested to hear if 
that is the case since we certainly need as many weapons in our 
arsenal as possible.


Thanks,

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of gidge...@aol.com

Sent: January-11-17 12:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Omega 3s

I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot 
express how important it is to put your cats on an omega 3 supplement. 
Moxxor is 100% pure.  Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and 
kiwifruitseed oil.  No preservatives, pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs, 
or excipients of 

Re: [Felvtalk] Omega 3s

2017-01-11 Thread Margo
I doubt it will be disallowed, but I do resent sales pitches on a list like this.-Original Message-
From: gidge...@aol.com
Sent: Jan 11, 2017 12:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Omega 3s

I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot express how important it is to put your cats on an omega 3 supplement.  Moxxor is 100% pure.  Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and kiwifruitseed oil.  No preservatives, pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs, or excipients of any kind.  My two FeLV cats are on Moxxor and knock on wood have been doing well.  They also take the Rx Vitamins for Pets ~ Liquid Immuno.  All natural.  For Moxxor, please please come join my FB page at https://www.facebook.com/moxxorforabetterlife/    to learn more about this.  I swear by it for both me and for my two girls. 



Nancy


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Re: [Felvtalk] Omega 3s

2017-01-11 Thread Amani Oakley
Hi Nancy

Were your cats in anemic crisis when you put them on the supplements, or were 
they positive for FeLV but not in crisis? I am interested to know if your 
supplements turned around severe non-regenerative anemia. I am sure I am not 
telling you anything new when I indicate that the problem is that if a cat is 
severely anemic and not producing his/her own red cells (low or insufficient 
reticulocytes) then there is very little time to address the crisis. Moreover, 
as I have posted before epogen, and other erythropoietin-type mimics, act on 
the red cell precursors in the bone marrow, signalling to them to produce more 
red cells. If the precursor cells are damaged or killed by the virus, which 
they often are, and that is why all three cell lines (red cells, white cells 
and platelets) are often affected, then no amount of erythropoietin, “yelling” 
at a dead precursor cell, will get it to re-start red cell production. The only 
thing I have found that has a chance to do that is the Winstrol, coupled with 
the Doxycycline. The Winstrol promotes the development of bone marrow and has 
been found to be effective for conditions such as osteoporosis. It promotes the 
growth and increased density of bone.

Were you able to restart bone marrow red cell production with the supplements 
you are referencing? I would be very interested to hear if that is the case 
since we certainly need as many weapons in our arsenal as possible.

Thanks,

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
gidge...@aol.com
Sent: January-11-17 12:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Omega 3s

I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot express how 
important it is to put your cats on an omega 3 supplement.  Moxxor is 100% 
pure.  Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and kiwifruitseed oil.  No 
preservatives, pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs, or excipients of any kind.  My 
two FeLV cats are on Moxxor and knock on wood have been doing well.  They also 
take the Rx Vitamins for Pets ~ Liquid Immuno.  All natural.  For Moxxor, 
please please come join my FB page at 
https://www.facebook.com/moxxorforabetterlife/to learn more about this.  I 
swear by it for both me and for my two girls.

Nancy
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[Felvtalk] Omega 3s

2017-01-11 Thread gidget43
I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot express how 
important it is to put your cats on an omega 3 supplement.  Moxxor is 100% 
pure.  Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and kiwifruitseed oil.  No 
preservatives, pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs, or excipients of any kind.  My 
two FeLV cats are on Moxxor and knock on wood have been doing well.  They also 
take the Rx Vitamins for Pets ~ Liquid Immuno.  All natural.  For Moxxor, 
please please come join my FB page at 
https://www.facebook.com/moxxorforabetterlife/to learn more about this.  I 
swear by it for both me and for my two girls. 


Nancy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Michael's last hope

2017-01-11 Thread gidget43
Terri,  I saw this post and am praying for your little Michael!  Can they start 
him on Aranesp (darbepoetin) or Epogen, or even Winstrol (which I think has 
been mentioned here before?).  I know with Aranesp, you give the shot 1 time a 
week and when it is within normal range, begin to space out the injections to 
find the right dose to  hold it in that normal range.  Epogen is given 3 times 
a week and when in normal range, one dosage is skipped and they search for that 
perfect dosage.  


Could you get a copy of that most recent blood work as I can read blood work 
and am wondering if anything else is off. IF so, once it is treated, things may 
go back into place with other levels.  This is what happened to my baby Kit.  I 
immediately put her on Rx Vitamins for Pets ~ Liquid Immuno.  Also she was put 
on antibiotics for fever and infection.  I really would like to see the blood 
work.  If you want, you can send to me privately at gidge...@aol.com


Nancy



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From: Terri 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2017 6:52 pm
Subject: [Felvtalk] Michael's last hope



Hi everyone.
 
My little boy Michael is 3 and was diagnosed just over a week ago. I noticed he 
had lost weight and wasn’t quite himself but nothing major, or so I thought. I 
got him as a stray kitten, had him tested – he was negative for felv, and 
vaccinated him every year.
 
On Fri 30 Dec I took him to the vet, she did blood tests to check what could be 
wrong with him and told me that when he came up positive she didn’t do any 
further tests. She said he was anemic and prescribed cortisone every day and 
vitamin B shots every week for 4 weeks. I asked what his lifespan would be and 
she told me not very long and that there was nothing else we could do except a 
blood transfusion at some stage.
 
After coming home from a new years eve party I found him limping and he would 
not stop moaning, I gave him an anti inflammatory that he had been given for a 
previous leg injury hoping it would help until morning when a vet opened. It 
helped his leg but he started moaning again 2 hours later. I finally found a 
vet that could help on new years day. I told the vet about his history and what 
had happened earlier that morning, by this time his leg was fine so the vet 
gave him a strong pain killer thinking he was moaning in pain and told me to 
bring him back later if it didn’t help. I took him back where a different vet 
saw him, he did blood tests and the results were terrible, he also felt that he 
had some sort of neurological issue so he had to be admitted to hospital. His 
platelet and red blood cell count was extremely low and he was not responding 
to treatment, I made the decision for him to have a blood transfusion which he 
received on 3 Jan Tuesday evening. I fetched him on Wednesday and had him 
tested again on the Friday, his results were still better but there was no sign 
of his body regenerating. On the weekend he just seemed to improve so much, is 
appetite was back and he had interest in playing like his old self again, but 
Monday’s results did not reflect his behavior. His body was not regenerating 
and his counts had dropped slightly.
 
My next step is blood tests and decisions on Friday. I am devastated and don’t 
know if there is anything else that we can do. If anyone can give any advice or 
suggestions I would really appreciate it. At the moment he is on Baytril and a 
nutritional tonic.
 
Kind regards,
Terri Knight
 
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