Re: [Felvtalk] Follow-up questions for FeLv meds

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Molly

Zander was less than 7 pounds when he was on this protocol. This is the 
Doxycycyline dose I used for him. Zander was on his protocol for 10 months or 
so, until his lab results showed his haematocrit, red cells, white cells and 
platelets all back in the normal ranges, and holding there. That last part is 
important, because it took a long time before I was able to taper Zander off 
the meds and keep his numbers in the normal ranges.

For the prednisolone, I did not use a loading dose, but I tapered all the meds, 
as I was trying to wean him – ensuring that the lab results would let me.

With respect to the Winstrol, after the haematology numbers stabilized, I 
weaned Zander off, and then kept an eagle eye on him. If I sensed his energy 
had flagged, or his ears, gums or pads looked less pink, I would put him back 
on the Winstrol for 4 to 6 weeks, and re-tested him or when I was satisfied his 
colour was okay again.

Amani

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Mou
Sent: February-26-17 11:18 AM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Follow-up questions for FeLv meds

Thank you all for the information for my Mia kitty.

I have a few more questions for Amani concerning Zander's Protocol:

doxycycline - Should a calculated dose be used based on weight of animal for 
this or is the dose that you give apply to all cats. Mia is a small girl - 
weighs 7 lbs. Also, how long should she be taking the meds. Is it the normal 
7-10 days to 2 weeks antibiotic regimen or longer?
Prednisolone - I assume this is the normal protocol for this drug - a loading 
dose with tapering doses.
winstrol - looks like this is taken until the hematocrit reaches near normal 
range. Then, should this be continued to maintain a normal level forever?

Thank you all again. I am grateful for your intelligent feedback and experience 
on this subject. I am at a loss since I have never had a FeLV cat in the many 
decades I've had the privilege of sharing my life with my cat companions.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 34, Issue 22

[Sandy]

hoping for the best - most especially for a vet who is willing to work with you 
and your kitty cat 
Sandy W 

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Molly... 

I will leave it to Amani to counsel re: protocol... but the short 
answer re: Doxy and pred is No... not the usual course of Treatment... 

Of primary importance ( and this cannot be overstated) is to have your 
vet onboard with you and to have he financial means to implement the 
treatment without having to cut corners. I'll never know if I could 
have saved MY little guy had I had a cooperative vet and sufficient 
funds to secure everything I needed in a timely fashion. I'm 
hesitant even to get another FeLV cat to be company for my still very 
active other FeLV buddy because I will have to Foster this time and the 
shelter is not on board either with Amani's protocol ( which means I 
would have to stand helplessly by and watch another cat fade unless I 
spent money I don't have going against their wishes.. Difficult 
decisions. You'll never know if the regimen can help if you wait too 
long to implement it. I've been on this list long enough now to see 
a few cats helped quite a bit by the Win/Doxy/Pred combination and think 
it would make more sense to try 
THAT first rather than wasting time with the other treatments that 
appear to have a less impressive effect... 

Again my opinion... and not an expert one 

You write as someone who has some medical experience or at least a grasp 
of medical protocols.. so I imagine you can make an informed 
decision. Hopeful that Win/Doxy/Pred can stop things FROM 
happening in instances that the worst has not yet begun 

Hoping for the best... 

Bob 


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> the?dose that you give apply to all cats. Mia is a?small girl -?weighs 
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> 7-10 days to 2 weeks antibiotic?regimen or longer?Prednisolone - I 
> assume this is the normal protocol for this drug - a loading dose with 
> tapering doses.winstrol - looks like this is taken until the 
> hematocrit reaches?near normal range. Then, should this be continued 
> to maintain a normal level forever? 
> Thank you all again. I am grateful for your intelligent feedback and 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 34, Issue 22

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

Molly...

I will leave it to Amani to counsel re: protocol...  but the short 
answer re: Doxy and pred is No... not the usual course of Treatment...


Of primary importance ( and this cannot be overstated) is to have your 
vet onboard with you and to have he financial means to implement the 
treatment without having to cut corners.  I'll never know if I could 
have saved MY little guy had I had a cooperative vet and sufficient 
funds to secure everything I needed in a timely fashion.   I'm 
hesitant even to get another FeLV cat to be company for my still very 
active other FeLV buddy because I will have to Foster this time and the 
shelter is not on board either with Amani's protocol ( which means I 
would have to stand helplessly by and watch another cat fade unless I 
spent money I don't have going against their wishes..   Difficult 
decisions.    You'll never know if the regimen can help if you wait too 
long to implement it.  I've been on this list long enough now to see 
a few cats helped quite a bit by the Win/Doxy/Pred combination and think 
it would make more sense to try
THAT first rather than wasting time with the other treatments that 
appear to have a less impressive effect...


Again my opinion...   and not an expert one

You write as someone who has some medical experience or at least a grasp 
of medical protocols.. so I imagine you can make an informed 
decision.   Hopeful that Win/Doxy/Pred can stop things FROM 
happening in instances that the worst has not yet begun


Hoping for the best...

Bob


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 Thank you all for the information for my Mia kitty. I have a few more 
questions for Amani concerning Zander's Protocol: doxycycline -?Should 
a calculated dose be used?based on weight of animal for this or is 
the?dose that you give apply to all cats. Mia is a?small girl -?weighs 
7 lbs. Also, how long should she be taking the meds. Is it the normal 
7-10 days to 2 weeks antibiotic?regimen or longer?Prednisolone - I 
assume this is the normal protocol for this drug - a loading dose with 
tapering doses.winstrol - looks like this is taken until the 
hematocrit reaches?near normal range. Then, should this be continued 
to maintain a normal level forever?
Thank you all again. I am grateful for your intelligent feedback and 
experience on this subject. I am at a loss since I have never had a 
FeLV cat in the many decades I've had the privilege of sharing my life 
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[Felvtalk] Follow-up questions for FeLv meds

[Molly Mou]

 Thank you all for the information for my Mia kitty. 
I have a few more questions for Amani concerning Zander's Protocol: 
doxycycline - Should a calculated dose be used based on weight of animal for 
this or is the dose that you give apply to all cats. Mia is a small girl - 
weighs 7 lbs. Also, how long should she be taking the meds. Is it the normal 
7-10 days to 2 weeks antibiotic regimen or longer?Prednisolone - I assume this 
is the normal protocol for this drug - a loading dose with tapering 
doses.winstrol - looks like this is taken until the hematocrit reaches near 
normal range. Then, should this be continued to maintain a normal level forever?
Thank you all again. I am grateful for your intelligent feedback and experience 
on this subject. I am at a loss since I have never had a FeLV cat in the many 
decades I've had the privilege of sharing my life with my cat companions.  ___
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