[Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-23 Thread Marilyn Knapp Litt
Just wanted to give you kind souls an update on my sweet Destiny.  I helped her 
cross the bridge last week, just a few weeks after her diagnosis.  The vet 
initially thought she had a nasal tumor, but tests were negative.  On this 
visit it was clear she had deteriorated in a week and had the vet was able to 
see the tumor. The vet said steroids would shrink it, but it would come roaring 
back.  Her head was so swollen that one eye was shut.  The best thing we could 
do was let her go while she was still purring.

>From onset to end there was nothing we could have changed with any knowledge 
>or treatment.  She had tested neg. for FeLv and had the vaccine and boosters. 
>Our other cats are negative and she never went outdoors. Destiny enjoyed good 
>health until very recently when her respitory infection turned out to be a 
>tumor.  Nevertheless, it really helped us to have the support of this 
>community and know there was somewhere we could go for advice.

Thank you all and may you all have better success and hug your kitty tonight.  
Destiny was a peacemaker.  I never saw her hiss once, but I saw her sit as 
close as she could to our cats who hissed at her, until they finally were won 
over.  The world needs more people like my special cat . . .

Marilyn Knapp Litt

 Marilyn Knapp Litt  wrote: 
> Has anyone used these for FeLV?
> 
>  
> 
> My kitty, Destiny,  is battling a bad infection.  We were shocked to 
> find she had FeLV.  She had had the shot and a booster.  The vet was 
> treating her and the infection was getting worse and then we found out 
> the terrible truth.  I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping her 
> comfortable.
> She is on an antibiotic.  I am giving her Essiac tea.  No idea if it 
> is effective.
> 
>  
> 
> I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV.
> 
>  
> 
> I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find 
> info on using them with cancer, not FeLV.  Anyone have a suggestion 
> about boosting her immune system and fighting this infection?  We 
> thought we were going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better the 
> last 24 hours.
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you!
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> ~Marilyn Knapp Litt
> 
>  
> 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-23 Thread Amani Oakley
I think they obtain it directly from growers or they go to states where it is 
legal, or they get a prescription.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: June-24-17 12:16 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

Amy - could you purchase it online?

I don't remember all the details, but I was told by a pharmacist several years 
ago (in Wisconsin where I live) that he was able to obtain medical marijuana 
for a cancer patient, and as far as I know it is not legal here. And of course 
I do know of people who have access to it, and use it for pain etc. - but I 
have no idea where they obtain it.
Ardy



-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy 
Glunt
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them, and 
NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a treatment. But 
now, when I search specifically for that in relation to herpes virus, I'm 
astounded...all this time, there's been a possible cure, and somehow this 
information isn't widely known or shared? Such a shame! And of course, I live 
in a red state that doesn't recognize medical marijuana. What a blow. All of 
the days I've had to miss work, all the pain and physical/mental suffering (my 
outbreaks are terrible and unforgiving, with swollen lymph nodes and fever 
symptoms)...and if only I could get some cannabis oil, I may no longer have to 
suffer. I'll hold out hope. 
Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of knowledge. You 
literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your shared knowledge will 
save me from the agony of cold sores. 

Amy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> 
> Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will see 
> very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects this 
> substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. It is 
> clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
> overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of prohibition, 
> the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, needed a new 
> mandate. It is also appalling that because of this ill-conceived war on 
> drugs, and placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the United States, virtually all 
> scientific testing was either banned completely, or faced so many obstacles, 
> that most scientists avoided doing any research on it at all. Thus, much of 
> the scientific studies come from Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a 
> pharmaceutical company decided to extract one of the key substances from the 
> cannabis plant and market it as Marinol, it suddenly went from having no 
> known medicinal qualities (the criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to 
> being a very effective drug which can be marketed and can make lots of money 
> for the drug company.
> 
> Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There are 
> Harvard professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent, amazing 
> research regarding the healing powers of this substance.
> 
> Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it for its 
> medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is unbelievably 
> effective in helping young children suffering from severe forms of epilepsy 
> where they literally convulse hundreds of times an hour, and the only 
> medications heretofore even slightly effective would put these children into 
> complete zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the unbearable non-stop 
> seizures, but doesn’t affect the children's level of consciousness. Parents 
> in states which have not legalized marijuana have literally moved their whole 
> families to other states to access medical marijuana when they have children 
> suffering these syndromes. Even Republicans have in some instances been moved 
> to back bills legalizing medical marijuana, when they have been confronted 
> with these suffering children. Medical marijuana has also been found to be 
> very effective for PTSD states, such as those suffered by servicemen and 
> women who have served overseas and have witnessed traumatic events. 
> 
> With respect to cancer therapy, one of the worst cancers is the glioma which 
> occurs in the brain. With such a diagnosis, most patients were dead within 6 
> months. Spanish researchers have recently shown that in mice with 
> experimentally-induced gliomas, and treated with cannabinoids, 1/3 showed 
> complete resolution of the glioma, 1/3 showed a standstill in the development 
> of the glioma, and 1/3 showed no improvement. Given that nothing else has 
> been found to be consistently helpful in treating 

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-23 Thread Amani Oakley
Ardy, I think it was precisely because of my experience with Winstrol that I 
was open to the unthinkable thought that science and scientists weren’t always 
free to produce unbiased research, even when it could help a lot of animals or 
people.

I am, first and foremost, a scientist by training and inclination, and this 
concept was terribly foreign to me when I first stumbled upon the bizarre 
Winstrol situation. 

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: June-24-17 12:12 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

Sort of like the stigma surrounding Winstrol due to the misuse of it by an 
Olympic athlete... people and animals who could be helped by it are not. 
People are crazy sometimes.

Ardy

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will see 
very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects this 
substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. It is 
clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of prohibition, 
the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, needed a new mandate. 
It is also appalling that because of this ill-conceived war on drugs, and 
placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the United States, virtually all scientific 
testing was either banned completely, or faced so many obstacles, that most 
scientists avoided doing any research on it at all. Thus, much of the 
scientific studies come from Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a 
pharmaceutical company decided to extract one of the key substances from the 
cannabis plant and market it as Marinol, it suddenly went from having no known 
medicinal qualities (the criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to being a 
very effective drug which can be marketed and can make lots of money for the 
drug company.

Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There are Harvard 
professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent, amazing research 
regarding the healing powers of this substance.

Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it for its 
medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is unbelievably effective 
in helping young children suffering from severe forms of epilepsy where they 
literally convulse hundreds of times an hour, and the only medications 
heretofore even slightly effective would put these children into complete 
zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the unbearable non-stop seizures, but 
doesn’t affect the children's level of consciousness. Parents in states which 
have not legalized marijuana have literally moved their whole families to other 
states to access medical marijuana when they have children suffering these 
syndromes. Even Republicans have in some instances been moved to back bills 
legalizing medical marijuana, when they have been confronted with these 
suffering children. Medical marijuana has also been found to be very effective 
for PTSD states, such as those suffered by servicemen and women who have served 
overseas and have witnessed traumatic events. 

With respect to cancer therapy, one of the worst cancers is the glioma which 
occurs in the brain. With such a diagnosis, most patients were dead within 6 
months. Spanish researchers have recently shown that in mice with 
experimentally-induced gliomas, and treated with cannabinoids, 1/3 showed 
complete resolution of the glioma, 1/3 showed a standstill in the development 
of the glioma, and 1/3 showed no improvement. Given that nothing else has been 
found to be consistently helpful in treating gliomas, these results are nothing 
short of earth-shattering. 

Read and learn. I cry when I think of all the people who might have been helped 
if not for the conspiracy related to this drug. It is deeply deeply disturbing.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: June-21-17 4:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: ROBERT CHAPEL
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

I agree on the cannibinol.  I wonder if maybe some of this is to justify making 
it legal saying it is for medical reasons.  It can't be all that wonderful, 
nothing is and when someone tells me that, I get suspicious.

 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> 


Amy
I'm not able to link to the article simply because it was not something I held 
on to...  At the time I had two FeLV+ young cats and I did NOT want to hear 
that one of the few things that I COULD do for them was useless  I 
mentioned it to a couple of vets who were rather 

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-23 Thread Ardy Robertson
Amy - could you purchase it online?

I don't remember all the details, but I was told by a pharmacist several years 
ago (in Wisconsin where I live) that he was able to obtain medical marijuana 
for a cancer patient, and as far as I know it is not legal here. And of course 
I do know of people who have access to it, and use it for pain etc. - but I 
have no idea where they obtain it.
Ardy



-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy 
Glunt
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

I've spent countless hours researching cold sores and remedies for them, and 
NEVER, until now, have I heard anything about cannabis oil as a treatment. But 
now, when I search specifically for that in relation to herpes virus, I'm 
astounded...all this time, there's been a possible cure, and somehow this 
information isn't widely known or shared? Such a shame! And of course, I live 
in a red state that doesn't recognize medical marijuana. What a blow. All of 
the days I've had to miss work, all the pain and physical/mental suffering (my 
outbreaks are terrible and unforgiving, with swollen lymph nodes and fever 
symptoms)...and if only I could get some cannabis oil, I may no longer have to 
suffer. I'll hold out hope. 
Once again, thank you Amani, for your incredibly vast amount of knowledge. You 
literally saved my cat's life, and maybe some day, your shared knowledge will 
save me from the agony of cold sores. 

Amy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> 
> Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will see 
> very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects this 
> substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. It is 
> clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
> overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of prohibition, 
> the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, needed a new 
> mandate. It is also appalling that because of this ill-conceived war on 
> drugs, and placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the United States, virtually all 
> scientific testing was either banned completely, or faced so many obstacles, 
> that most scientists avoided doing any research on it at all. Thus, much of 
> the scientific studies come from Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a 
> pharmaceutical company decided to extract one of the key substances from the 
> cannabis plant and market it as Marinol, it suddenly went from having no 
> known medicinal qualities (the criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to 
> being a very effective drug which can be marketed and can make lots of money 
> for the drug company.
> 
> Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There are 
> Harvard professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent, amazing 
> research regarding the healing powers of this substance.
> 
> Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it for its 
> medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is unbelievably 
> effective in helping young children suffering from severe forms of epilepsy 
> where they literally convulse hundreds of times an hour, and the only 
> medications heretofore even slightly effective would put these children into 
> complete zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the unbearable non-stop 
> seizures, but doesn’t affect the children's level of consciousness. Parents 
> in states which have not legalized marijuana have literally moved their whole 
> families to other states to access medical marijuana when they have children 
> suffering these syndromes. Even Republicans have in some instances been moved 
> to back bills legalizing medical marijuana, when they have been confronted 
> with these suffering children. Medical marijuana has also been found to be 
> very effective for PTSD states, such as those suffered by servicemen and 
> women who have served overseas and have witnessed traumatic events. 
> 
> With respect to cancer therapy, one of the worst cancers is the glioma which 
> occurs in the brain. With such a diagnosis, most patients were dead within 6 
> months. Spanish researchers have recently shown that in mice with 
> experimentally-induced gliomas, and treated with cannabinoids, 1/3 showed 
> complete resolution of the glioma, 1/3 showed a standstill in the development 
> of the glioma, and 1/3 showed no improvement. Given that nothing else has 
> been found to be consistently helpful in treating gliomas, these results are 
> nothing short of earth-shattering. 
> 
> Read and learn. I cry when I think of all the people who might have been 
> helped if not for the conspiracy related to this drug. It is deeply deeply 
> disturbing.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk 

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-23 Thread Ardy Robertson
Sort of like the stigma surrounding Winstrol due to the misuse of it by an 
Olympic athlete... people and animals who could be helped by it are not. 
People are crazy sometimes.

Ardy

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

Cannabis is an absolutely amazing product. Do your own research. You will see 
very solid scientific evidence that backs up the many positive effects this 
substance has. In fact, I was pretty enraged when I did the research. It is 
clear that the decision to ban this substance was fraught with racial 
overtones, and was introduced simply because after the demise of prohibition, 
the government agency tasked with enforcing prohibition, needed a new mandate. 
It is also appalling that because of this ill-conceived war on drugs, and 
placing cannabis on Schedule 1 in the United States, virtually all scientific 
testing was either banned completely, or faced so many obstacles, that most 
scientists avoided doing any research on it at all. Thus, much of the 
scientific studies come from Spain and Israel. Oddly enough, when a 
pharmaceutical company decided to extract one of the key substances from the 
cannabis plant and market it as Marinol, it suddenly went from having no known 
medicinal qualities (the criteria to have it listed in Schedule 1) to being a 
very effective drug which can be marketed and can make lots of money for the 
drug company.

Do your own research. There is tons of stuff on the internet. There are Harvard 
professors and top-notch researchers turning out excellent, amazing research 
regarding the healing powers of this substance.

Oh, and the reason why so many of the States are now recognizing it for its 
medicinal qualities and legalizing it, is because it is unbelievably effective 
in helping young children suffering from severe forms of epilepsy where they 
literally convulse hundreds of times an hour, and the only medications 
heretofore even slightly effective would put these children into complete 
zombie states. Cannabis not only relieves the unbearable non-stop seizures, but 
doesn’t affect the children's level of consciousness. Parents in states which 
have not legalized marijuana have literally moved their whole families to other 
states to access medical marijuana when they have children suffering these 
syndromes. Even Republicans have in some instances been moved to back bills 
legalizing medical marijuana, when they have been confronted with these 
suffering children. Medical marijuana has also been found to be very effective 
for PTSD states, such as those suffered by servicemen and women who have served 
overseas and have witnessed traumatic events. 

With respect to cancer therapy, one of the worst cancers is the glioma which 
occurs in the brain. With such a diagnosis, most patients were dead within 6 
months. Spanish researchers have recently shown that in mice with 
experimentally-induced gliomas, and treated with cannabinoids, 1/3 showed 
complete resolution of the glioma, 1/3 showed a standstill in the development 
of the glioma, and 1/3 showed no improvement. Given that nothing else has been 
found to be consistently helpful in treating gliomas, these results are nothing 
short of earth-shattering. 

Read and learn. I cry when I think of all the people who might have been helped 
if not for the conspiracy related to this drug. It is deeply deeply disturbing.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: June-21-17 4:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: ROBERT CHAPEL
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

I agree on the cannibinol.  I wonder if maybe some of this is to justify making 
it legal saying it is for medical reasons.  It can't be all that wonderful, 
nothing is and when someone tells me that, I get suspicious.

 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> 


Amy
I'm not able to link to the article simply because it was not something I held 
on to...  At the time I had two FeLV+ young cats and I did NOT want to hear 
that one of the few things that I COULD do for them was useless  I 
mentioned it to a couple of vets who were rather insistent that it IS 
useful  Yes/No Maybe so  : )  I chose to believe and did not make a point 
of keeping the article for reference...  and Amani ( if you happen to read 
this)  I am getting hopeful about all of the uses of cannabinol ( though I AM 
suspect when something is said to be useful for everything from Cancer to 
Transmission Trouble in Oldsmobiles)...  With all the Hoopla there must be a 
pony in there somewhere..


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