Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 63, Issue 5
Jason what may have happened to you is your cat could have had feline leukemia and then apparently beat it like a lot of cats do when they’re very young and their immune system overpowers it but sometimes it gets depressed and it stays in the body but it’s not active until when they’re older and something triggers it becomes apparent again. That might be what happened On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 1:43 PM wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with FeLV.. (JASON VOGT) >2. Re: My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with FeLV.. > (Amani Oakley) >3. Re: My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with FeLV.. > (Christi Anna) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 15:26:40 + (UTC) > From: JASON VOGT > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Subject: [Felvtalk] My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with > FeLV.. > Message-ID: <757473990.640373.1641137200...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thank you very much for your detailed response Amani.? You obviously have > a lot of experience treating both FeLV+ cats and kittens.? He (Kitty) will > be 12 years old this coming Spring or Summer.? Thank you also Kat.? I > remember taking him (Kitty) in from outside when he was one year old.? I am > positive the Vet. did a FeLV test on him then and it was negative at one > year old.? It surprised me him (Kitty) being diagnosed this old with FeLV.?? > I had an 11.50 year old cat (Mork - indoor only who I got from a shelter > as a kitten) who died in 2014 of FIP (also diagnosed with it very late at > age 11).? I am not sure how these 2 older cats of mine contracted these > diseases and how Mork died from it late in life.? Does an older cat's > immune system get much weaker as they age??? > The 11.50 female? indoor only cat (Snow White) appears just fine.? I took > her in from outside the same time as Kitty at one year old.? She tested > negative for FeLV at one year old also.? ? > Thank you very much again,? > Jason > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20220102/012b3f9b/attachment-0001.html > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 20:06:27 + > From: Amani Oakley > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with > FeLV.. > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > No problem, Jason. Please let us know how things work out. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk On Behalf Of JASON > VOGT > Sent: January 2, 2022 10:27 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with FeLV.. > > Thank you very much for your detailed response Amani. You obviously have > a lot of experience treating both FeLV+ cats and kittens. He (Kitty) will > be 12 years old this coming Spring or Summer. Thank you also Kat. I > remember taking him (Kitty) in from outside when he was one year old. I am > positive the Vet. did a FeLV test on him then and it was negative at one > year old. It surprised me him (Kitty) being diagnosed this old with FeLV. > > I had an 11.50 year old cat (Mork - indoor only who I got from a shelter > as a kitten) who died in 2014 of FIP (also diagnosed with it very late at > age 11). I am not sure how these 2 older cats of mine contracted these > diseases and how Mork died from it late in life. Does an older cat's > immune system get much weaker as they age? > > The 11.50 female indoor only cat (Snow White) appears just fine. I took > her in from outside the same time as Kitty at one year old. She tested > negative for FeLV at one year old also. > > Thank you very much again, > > Jason > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20220102/ec4894c9/attachment-0001.html > > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 16:43:09 -0500 > From: Christi Anna > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with > FeLV.. > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > what is this? > why is this coming
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 63, Issue 2
Don’t give up! Like the other poster said LTC I works in many cases and Winstrol works for a lot of people. Myself I didn’t use any of those and I was prepared for the worst but now almost 12 years later I have a cat who is not FLV positive anymore. At 8 1/2 years old suddenly she flipped. I don’t know why it’s a miracle but don’t give up. And don’t let any vet tell you to put your kitty down. Fight until the end and hopefully the end will come much much later than you think. Good luck and blessings be on counting to you and yours and your kitty Kat On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 1:09 PM wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: My 11 and 1/2 year old indoor only male cat was diagnosed > with FeLV (Amani Oakley) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 21:08:57 + > From: Amani Oakley > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 11 and 1/2 year old indoor only male cat > was diagnosed with FeLV > Message-ID: <08b17163ffa44e33abaadcaf68d1101e@OAKSERVER.oakley.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Jason, if your baby is only ? a year old, he may have been born with it or > had it before you took him in. > > I have written many times on this chatline about my own success with > Zander, my baby who had FeLV and we were told there was no hope and to just > put him down. > > What worked for us was Winstrol (Stanozolol), an anabolic steroid ? the > ?Ben Johnson steroid?. Unfortunately, because many many athletes use > Stanozolol to improve their performance and to heal injuries faster, the > scientific community has labeled this steroid as ?evil?, and stupidly > ignore it and will not use it on either humans or animals. It used to be > regularly given to cats, because cats in particular, really respond well to > it. There was a really poorly-researched vet paper years ago, which > suggested Winstrol causes liver failure in cats, so vets just abruptly > stopped using it. In my case, after trying EVERYTHING including interferon > and LCTI. We tried each for 4 to 6 months, while monitoring blood work > every week. There was no change or improvement in red cell count, > haematocrit, reticulocytes, etc. Here is my original post on this chatline, > from 2015, and I have repeated this advice many times over the years. > Several people have reported success using ?Zander?s protocol? which > I describe below: > > > I had a cat with leukemia as a kitten, and he lived to the age of 7 and > died from something else that I don?t believe was related to the leukemia. > When the vets told me that they could do nothing for him as a kitten dying > with leukemia (and he WAS dying - his red cells were dropping down to > nothing and I had given him TWO blood transfusions that weren't holding up > his numbers to any great degree) then as a last ditch effort, I tried some > Winstrol I had in the cupboard that a previous vet had given to me for > another cat. > > > This medication turned him completely around. To monitor his condition, we > were performing weekly blood tests on him - CBC, liver function, etc. After > being put on the Winstrol, his red cells and white cell counts began to > climb very quickly and steadily. It was totally amazing and the vets > couldn't believe the lab results either. My beautiful little boy was out of > the woods in about six months. We were obsessively checking the pinkness of > his ears, gums and pads to check the status of his profound anemia, and to > our unbelievable joy, he began to get pink and his lab results just kept > getting better. After about a year, I called back the internal medicine > veterinarian we had seen, and who had told us there was no hope, and told > him of our beautiful cat's recovery. To my surprise - and a little bit of > anger - he said that I had gone "old school" and that Winstrol used to be > used but then there were rumours of possible liver damage associated with > it, and vets stopped prescribing it. T > his REALLY annoyed me. My cat was dying and no one thought that maybe, > just maybe, some treatment - even with a potential side effect - was better > than no treatment??? In our experience, on a few occasions the liver > enzymes would indeed rise, but would drop back down to normal fairly > quickly after a short break from the Winstrol. We monitored our beautiful > Zander very closely during and
Re: [Felvtalk] My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with FeLV......
Hi Jason, In our rescue group here in NC, anytime a cat tests positive we always have the vet clinic rerun the test. Occasionally there can be user error, either due to the way the test is run or using the parts of the test incorrectly, the way the kits were stored, temperature-wise or expired, etc. Also, there are IFA and PCR tests that can confirm a positive result. Shelley > On Jan 2, 2022, at 4:58 PM, LORRAINE JOHNSTON > wrote: > > Dear Jason, > > It might comfort you to know that some cats who contract FeLV late in life > can suppress it. This is what appears to have happened to my cousin’s cat. > She contracted felv from a bite at about age 12. My cousin had had one felv > vaccine administered about a year prior, but forgot to get her booster. Then > came the bite, after which she tested positive. But we’ve had her viral load > checked annually by a company called Scanelis (Colomiers, France), and they > report a very low circulating viral load consistent with her immune system > suppressing the virus. This phenomenon has been reported in the scientific > literature on felv. If you’d like more details, feel free to contact me > privately at johnston1110 at Comcast.net. > > Cheers, > > - Lorraine > > “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” > -Theodore Parker >> On 01/02/2022 3:06 PM Amani Oakley wrote: >> >> >> No problem, Jason. Please let us know how things work out. >> >> >> >> Amani >> >> >> >> From: Felvtalk On Behalf Of JASON VOGT >> Sent: January 2, 2022 10:27 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: [Felvtalk] My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with FeLV.. >> >> >> >> Thank you very much for your detailed response Amani. You obviously have a >> lot of experience treating both FeLV+ cats and kittens. He (Kitty) will be >> 12 years old this coming Spring or Summer. Thank you also Kat. I remember >> taking him (Kitty) in from outside when he was one year old. I am positive >> the Vet. did a FeLV test on him then and it was negative at one year old. >> It surprised me him (Kitty) being diagnosed this old with FeLV. >> >> >> I had an 11.50 year old cat (Mork - indoor only who I got from a shelter as >> a kitten) who died in 2014 of FIP (also diagnosed with it very late at age >> 11). I am not sure how these 2 older cats of mine contracted these diseases >> and how Mork died from it late in life. Does an older cat's immune system >> get much weaker as they age? >> >> >> The 11.50 female indoor only cat (Snow White) appears just fine. I took >> her in from outside the same time as Kitty at one year old. She tested >> negative for FeLV at one year old also. >> >> >> Thank you very much again, >> >> >> Jason >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
