On 07-08, MaiMaiPG wrote:
There is 124 acres to put it on. Poop gets pitched into unused
fields--far from the house. I can't see a difference between theirs
and that of the numerous cats who stray this way/deer/buzzards/turkey
etc. The pee turns the pellets into sawdust. It may sound
I've often wondered and worried about this chemical stuff in
the clumping litter. A friend of mine uses ground chicken corn.
Have any of you tried this? She says it's not only safer but
much less expensive.
Lorrie
Kitty Litter with a Serious Warning
Vets have been reporting more
, or during the winter. Otherwise they
prefer going outside to do their biz. We have a couple of acres of
woods around our house and no traffic so it's safe for them.
Lorrie
On 07-08, Katy Doyle wrote:
Well, this has inspired me to check out Feline Pine - has anyone used it
before
That's the best compliment ever. A friend recently came in
my house and said she couldn't even tell I had cats, and I have
15, so I must be scooping the litter boxes often enough.
On 07-08, Maureen Olvey wrote:
If your friends come to your house and leave rather quickly then it
might smell.
On 07-08, Natalie wrote:
We have an almost 19 yr old cat - I swear, I should market the smell of her
poop: It could raise the dead! It is so potent, that I wait at night until
she makes one or two before I go to bed.I bet she could win the
International smelliest poop contest!
I've got
.
Lorrie
On 07-09, Beth Noren wrote:
Yes, I've used Dumor brand Starter/Grower Chick Feed. I get it
from Tractor Supply Co., think it was $13.00 for 50lbs? last time I
got it. It's a bit of a hike to TSC, so I don't always use it. Plus.
my husband complains that it doesn't handle odor well
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Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking
care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin.
You are very kind.
Lorrie
On 07-09, katskat1 wrote
On 07-09, Lynda Wilson wrote:
Wow! You are diligent keeping those litter boxes cleaned out. I bet
your kitties love you more for that! Lorrie, what a caring and
loving person you are to have 15 cats! I would have that many if I
did not have a husband, lol! (Note: my husband has told me
could get up on my soap box and go on and on about this, but
I'll spare you.
Lorrie
On 07-14, Natalie wrote:
We were talking about the FDA last week - here's another perfect
example of how one cannot even trust them on something as simple as
sunscreen ingredients! And all this, WITH what we
We saw that movie GAS LAND and we also had a gas well drilled on
our land. Believe me there is NO safe way to drill for
gas. We were way, way out in the boonies and it ruined our land
and water. Drilling for gas and fracking is an extremely dangerous
operation.
Former posts on the
to have gas wells on their land because they are stupid
enough to think they'll get big bucks. We never got a cent in spite
of all the promises they made us. Don't ever let them drill on your
property!
Lorrie
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On 07-17, Natalie wrote:
You must have some proof of it, pictures, affidavits, sale of your
house for less, etc.?
We had pictures of the mess it made. Trees down, road torn up, etc.
but these gas companies have lawyers on retainer to fight their
battles, and we were advised we'd probably
Natalie, I hope everyone in the group appreciates this off topic
information as much as I do. I agree with you 100% on all of this.
You and I could both spend a lot of time up on our soap
box.
Thanks..
Lorrie
On 07-26, Natalie wrote:
Dear Reader,
Let go of that stem and back
Wow, Lynda, that is scary!! I feel for you having to move because
of those gas wells. As I wrote to the group a few weeks ago, we also
had to leave our home because of gas wells!
Lorrie
On 07-29, Lynda Wilson wrote:
Natalie, It makes sense to me and I'm no expert. We had some here at DFW
the biopsy results show. I hope she is FelV neg.
and the biopsy is benign.
Lorrie
On 07-29, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
Hi Everyone
Life can be stressful sometimes.
My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her
cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become
, but they have a bunch of cats of their own, and my cat loving
friends are few and far between.
We have discussed this on the list before, and sadly I am no closer
to finding the answer?
Ideally I want someone to move into our house to care for them, but
there again WHO?
Lorrie
On Jul
with all his positive litter mates.
Lorrie
On 08-03, Lynda Wilson wrote:
Great analogy, Maureen and it makes sense :)
I guess my cat, Sugar, must have cleared the virus since he was exposed to
it 24/7 for 6 mos. They bit one another playing, ate/drank out of the same
bowls, and shared
I never saw the mother. They were born to a feral cat,
but I assume the mother must have been positive.
On 08-03, Natalie wrote:
Was the mother positive? Could they have acquired the virus AFTER being
born to a negative mother?
Four years ago I had a litter of rescued kittens and all but
On 08-04, Natalie wrote:
I hate people (except us)do you know how cowardly and cruel
people are? They bring their cats/dogs to surrender at a shelter
and claim that they are strays...a 14-yr old cat was just brought
to a NY shelter, healthy but with a slight sniffle - how can anyone
do
.
Lorrie
On 08-05, Kelley Saveika wrote:
Wow, this used to be a really kind, supportive, positive list. It
makes me sad to see that it doesn't seem to be any more.
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Peggy, Shelter workers hear so many phoney reasons why people
have brought in animals that they get very cynical and bitter.
In your case you were helping the Husky, but they didn't know that.
Lorrie
On 08-05, Peggy Verdonck wrote:
I totally agree, but another side of
the story...I got
, as well un-neutered males who spray and
fight. The worst thing they do is tape up kittens in cardboard
boxes and leave them out in front of my building when no one is
there. Thankfully we find them on time.
Lorrie
On 08-05, Kelley Saveika wrote:
I do rescue and have for years, and the people
On 08-05, Joslin Potter wrote:
I don't get that either, I have a friend of a friend who is looking
to get rid of her 12 yr old cats becuase they are having a baby and
she just can't take that chance of the cats smothering the child.
What a crock that is. I have three grown children, and
or dog as a lifetime
commitment. Instead they are just things to be disposed of when
they get sick, or grow up, or when you move!
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regardless
of whether it's a pet or another little creature who also
wants to live.
Lorrie
On 08-06, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
I put out saucers of sugar water for the bees and wasps so they
will leave the hummingbird feeders alone. They were so crowded
that some were landing on top of others
You are so right We are a throw away nation and our pets
are tossed out like so much garbage!
BTW, I stop and move turtles or snakes out of the road too.
Lorrie
On 08-06, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
tHAT IS WHY OUR NATION IS IN THE SHAPE IT'S IN. tHE ECONOMY IS
BASED
, none of my 15 cats have
torn it.
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I use feathers or a long handled bath brush to win over a shy or
feral cat. I've had them simply melt at the touch, and soon
become very affectionate.
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On 08-13, Natalie wrote:
Have you tried playing with her? I always collect goose feathers
when they molt and tape on or two
The idea of the long handled bath brush is so you can pet the
cat with no danger of getting bitten or clawed. You were brave
to leave your hand in there unless you had on a glove :-)
Lorrie
On 08-13, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
Wow, what a terrific idea! I just put more bedding in with Hemy because
How terribly upsetting for you Marcia, but very often other
cats in the household do not contract the FelV virus in spite
of not having been vaccinated.
Lorrie
On 08-21, Marcia Baronda wrote:
Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I
have a million questions
Right on Maureen.. I don't mince words with people
anymore. I tell it like it is.
Lorrie
On 08-23, Maureen Olvey wrote:
The older I get the less I feel the need to be tactful. That's
probably good and bad. Good for me cause I don't hold things in and
don't let
our love for cats.
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exactly what I think of them
if they are irresponsible or unkind to animals.
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On 08-23, Natalie wrote:
YES - age is great!
I can hardly wait to be 80 and more, then I'll really be able
to get away with more, like Sophia on Golden Girls
I've got two more years before I turn 80, but I'm not waiting
I'm already telling people exactly what I think!
Lorrie
I could join you on your soapbox. I think the cruelty and inhumane
treatment farm animals get is absolutely horrendous.
Lorrie
On 08-24, Marcia Baronda wrote:
I think that only one of Cargills slaughter houses uses her methods.
And Temple said in one of her books that she felt bad
??
I think being blind would be terribly frightening for him until
he adjusted to it. Also being in pain and sick would make him
irritable. Can he be in a quiet room by himself for awhile?
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On 08-24, Natalie wrote:
Welcome to 70 - I'll be 71 in December! Great age, isn't it?
It's great to know quite a few of you are in your 60's or 70's.
Now I don't feel quite so bad being 78.
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What are seed ticks? I know about the big dog ticks and the tiny
deer ticks. The deer ticks are very small, so are these what you
call seed ticks?
On 08-25, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place.
I had been using Revolution on my
OMG, that poor baby. How could anyone be that cruel.
On 08-24, Natalie wrote:
We just got a 9-yr old blind and declawed cat, and healthy
- poor thing was stumbling around in a neighborhood, and only
after about 2 weeks it was determined that he cannot see.
Nobody was
Our vet clinic uses these tests and I questioned them about it.
They guarantee they are fine, and I've had at least 5 cats test
negative on them, but I've heard too many bad reports of these
FelV, FIV and Heartworm tests to have any confidence in them.
Lorrie
On 08-26, Marcia Baronda wrote
. I worry just as much about the pets left behind when their
humans evacuate. My first thoughts are always for the animals,
but thankfully my cats are safe. We are in the eastern mountains
right on the border of western Maryland at 3,000 elevation.
Lorrie
here, and only vets can give the
injections. Once they are vaccinated I do not repeat vaccinations
annually, and I just ignore the postcards I get saying it's time to
vaccinate again.
Lorrie
On 08-26, Natalie wrote:
Anyone who uses Petsmart's veterinary plan should be aware that they
pump
Thanks for the laugh. If I ever lose my sense of humor I'm
done for!
On 08-26, Lynda Wilson wrote:
Natalie, I have not had a laugh like that in a long time!!! Thanks so
much for sharing. You are way too funny girl! I love your sense of
humor. Gotta have it to keep your sanity,
Good for you. There is no way I'd ever abandon my cats, but the
problem is I have 15 cats, and a small Suzuki compact car, so I'd
have to rent or buy a van, which I'd definitely do.
Lorrie
On 08-26, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
Since Katrina, I have been accumulating carriers (have 7 cats
a horrible flea infestation. The fleas got so
bad they gravitated downstairs to my cat shelter and it was just
horrible.
Lorrie
On 08-26, Natalie wrote:
There are also some apartments that allow cats ONLY if they are
declawed...I guess they prefer taking their chances of those
Thanks for this Natalie People need to know how HORRIBLE
this declaw surgery is.
Please send us the article you mentioned.
Lorrie
On 08-26, Natalie wrote:
I would seriously consider declawing very, very seriously- it is the
most devastating thing for a cat. Knowing what I do
I've heard people proudly announce that their cats are only declawed
in the front, and they usually do see proud of it. Even prouder if
they've mutilated the poor cat on all four feet!! Declawing is cruel
and agonizing for the cat and I'd like to take these people and put
each finger on a
. Ironically, my parents were not animal people,
and I often wonder how they'd feel about the way I'm spending the
interest from my inheritance.
Lorrie
Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
Well, you could enforce the no-flea rule by insisting that the dog
is treated with proof. You could
per cat. Do any of you have any ideas what I can do?
Lorrie in eastern WV almost to the Maryland border
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I have always heard not to vaccinate for FIV, only FelV.
Not only is the FIV vaccination questionable, but the cat will
forever test positive for FIV just because of the vaccination.
On 09-07, katskat1 wrote:
Again, a large number of the people posting on this site MIX positives
and negatives
I have provided for my cats in my will too. There is plenty of money
for their care, but WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM? With 15 cats this is
the problem. Not the money.
.
On 09-08, MaiMaiPG wrote:
I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever
may show up) in
cat flaps. It is also in the woods on several acres
with no traffic. It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish
someone could let them continue the happy life they know and love.
I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies
are taken care of.
Lorrie
On Sep 8, 2011, at 8
On 09-08, MaiMaiPG wrote:
I have a close friend who is as much an animal lover as I am who will
handle it.
It would be a great comfort to have a friend like that. Lucky you!
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the expression. There are only about 8 active members and
they all love dogs. Cats are totally ignored. I joined years ago,
but dropped out when I found out how little help they give cats.
Lorrie
Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
If money isn't the problem, why not contact the Humane
the money.
I am not wealthy, just comfortable from a small inheritance my
parents left me. I have to be careful with my money, but I have
enough saved up for the care of my cats. It's the person who will
care for them that's my huge concern.
Lorrie
, in the winter we
get LOTS of snow.
Anyway, regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me some
hope for the future of my kitty kats. BTW, Maureen, my cats like
strange people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-).
Lorrie
On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote:
See Lorrie - now everything has
, their dispositions, who hates who :-) as well as their health
records. This will help a lot when the time comes, and my son is also
very familiar with each of my cats.
Lorrie
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On 09-09, Natalie wrote:
Isn't that in Florida? All little houses; but how does one keep track of
them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick? Don't they get out?
Is it all fenced in? I had so many questions when I saw the video
Man builds cat-sized village for homeless
On 09-09, MaiMaiPG wrote:
I can hear all the justifications...she wouldn't want...they aren't
happy...we just can't...we are allergic (suddenly)...
Isn't it amazing how everyone suddenly becomes allergic when asked
to take a homeless cat or kitten!
head hunter shot his buddy instead of the
deer!!
Lorrie
On 09-12, Natalie wrote:
What really pisses me off when those damned hunters refer to
themselves, and are referred to as the only real
conservationists...what a joke!
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keeps up with her group. She's an amazing,
brave little doe and we call her Tripod.
Lorrie
Tripod and she
in
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On 09-12, Natalie wrote:
Welcome to my kinda club!
Natalie, you and I see eye to eye about everything. You're my
kinda person.
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On 09-12, MaiMaiPG wrote:
Yupbut feel a lot better about hunters who kill for food than for
factory farmers.
Very true. Both kinds are detestable
On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:07 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
wrote:
I would have to be very hungry before I could look
. We are the most cruel
beings on the face of the earth!
Lorrie
On 09-13, Natalie wrote: So do Canada geese (mate for life). We
live on a pond, and they spend a lot of time here. We feed
them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties, bothering them.
We actually recognize them
On 09-14, Bonnie Hogue wrote: This reminds me of a cartoon I cut out
and put on my 'fridge. The planet Earth is sitting on a doctor's
exam table. The doctor stands nearby looking at the chart and
saying, The bad news is you have advanced case humans...The good
news is they've about run their
When we lived on our 75 acre farm hunters would park on our road and
walk back into the woods. We could hear them, but never find them,
so because they were parked where I could get to their cars I began
letting the air out of their tires!
Lorrie
That would be wonderful to see. I think big cats are fantastic and
beautiful. We don't have any around here, as they were all killed
years ago, but many deer come up to our house for treats. BTW, where
do you live that you still have cougars around?
On 09-14, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
My
On 09-15, Natalie wrote:
There's something wrong, seriously wrong with people who can't wait to
kill an animal. When we see a gorgeous, or ANY animal, we admire
them, enjoy looking at them, and always wish that we had a camera
handy - for those people it's the exact
Right, factory farming is extremely cruel. Animals seem to be treated
horribly regardless of whether they are wild animals, domestic
animals or even pets in some cases. What gets me is people who have
pampered pets but care absolutely nothing about how other animals are
treated...
On 09-16,
Okay here James...
On 09-18, James G Wilson wrote:
Hello all,
We seem to have had another glitch with the list. I hope
that I have it fixed now. So, I am just sending out a test
message to be sure. I hope everyone is doing well. Best
wishes.
James G. Wilson -
Yup, flimzy screens and screaming brats are not good for cats either.
It's hard to find a perfect home, and I guess all of you believe, as
I do, that no one can take care of cats as well as we can :-) This
is probably why most of us have so many cats.
Lorrie
Susan Hoffman susan_hoff
. This was the only good thing about enduring smoke from
birth to age 20 when I finally left home.
Lorrie
On 09-21, Natalie wrote:
Iwould too, if they aren't chain smokers and smoke
outsidehowever, I've known too many cats with lymphoma from homes
of smokers...fact
I hit reply but then I get rid of all the extra stuff at the bottom
so it isn't send back time after time making the message too long.
Lorrie
On 09-28, Lynda Wilson wrote:
Yes, that is right. The same has happened to me and the only way I found
around it when it glitches out like that is dont
Does anyone know where I can buy RX vet meds overseas without an RX?
With 25 cats in my shelter and at home I need to keep some basic
things at home such as Acarexx for earmites, Clavamox (antibiotic)
etc.
Thanks,
Lorrie
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Have you ordered recently? They seem to require an RX now,
and so do all the other overseas pharmacies I used for years.
On 10-16, Susan Hoffman wrote:
www.1drugstore-online.com
I've been using them for years.
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On 10-16, Susan Hoffman wrote: What are you trying to order? I just
did a test order for zithromax at http://www.1drugstore-online.com/
and no prescription required. I've ordered other things from them
in the past month and still no prescription.
I was trying to order Clavamox and Acarexx.
cats ever, and we forgive
him for his aggressiveness because who knows what he went thru before
we got him. He is a huge big white long haired cat and we named him
YETI for the abominable snowman, or actually the abomimable snow cat!
Lorrie
On 10-18, Natalie wrote:
I am so very sorry
with two drops of mineral oil in each ear. She says this works even
better than Acarexx. A vet tech gave her this info.
On 10-19, Cindy McHugh wrote:
Lorrie,
I'm late chiming in here. I can't help you with Acarexx, but look into
FishMox for the clavamox. It can be ordered without
For months I've been wondering what a Sids kid was. I knew they were
FelV cats, but did not know what SIDS meant. I'm glad someone else
asked first.. I thought I should know :-) Lorrie
On 11-03, Marcia Baronda wrote:
That's what I was wondering(-:
On Nov 3, 2011, at 7:40 PM
.
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because this is the place they feel safe. Always put your
cats in carriers or in your car outside your home. With 13 cats this
would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are
only one or two cats this can be done.
Lorrie
On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
In 1964, my parents' house
.
Lorrie
On 12-14, James G Wilson wrote:
Hey all,
Sorry for the extra mail. Just testing to be sure the list is
working as it should. Haven't seen any traffic for a few
days now. Hope all is well with everyone. Best wishes.
James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
seem to have much resistance to FelV, as
their immune systems are not fully developed. Losing six of your cats
in one year is rough. I'm sorry you had to go through that, but
thank you for what you do for cats. Being a rescuer is hard and heart
breaking at times.
Lorrie
On 12-28, Amanda
and it's important to catch any illnesses
right away and treat them. This is what I do, but I've never used
heroic measure such as blood transfusions or Interferon. However many
of the others in this group have.
Lorrie
On 12-29, Holly Shelton wrote:
Hi there. I just wanted to take a moment
I really doubt it was neutering that caused his death. Anemia is
one of the complications of FelV.
On 01-02, Lynda Wilson wrote:
Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the
time we did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg
for it
I rescue cats and I've have had many FelV positive cats neutered or
spayed. If they are healthy at the time they come thru the surgery
just fine regardless of their FelV status.
Lorrie
On 01-02, dppl dppl wrote: I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in
October who tested positive. He seems
I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
I think I might have mentioned it to you guys before but in case I
didn't, studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies vaccinations
On 01-05, Marcia Baronda wrote:
That infuriates me. Such a waste of life! Sometimes I think the
wildlife should be armed!
I agree with you on that one. I detest hunters!
Lorrie
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Where we live, in the mountains of WV, they drop bait from low flying
aircraft. This is oral rabies vaccine for the raccoons to eat. They
haven't done this for several years, but did at one time. I have no
idea how sucessful it was.
Lorrie
On 01-05, MaiMaiPG wrote:
According to Fish
.
Lorrie and 25 cats in WV
On 01-07, Sherry DeHaan wrote:
Well we made it a whole 7 days into the new year before losing one of
our wonderful Sids kids. Myles was a big gentle sweet lovin black and
white boy.He has such a cute white chin.He will be missed at the
sanctuary by us all
Welcome to the group, MaryAnn. You'll find a lot of knowledgable
people here. Tell us about your cats.
Lorrie in WV
On 01-09, MaryAnn Riggs wrote:
Hi all.
My name is MaryAnn Riggs in southeastern Wisconsin. I've been reading
comments for sometime, just haven't introduced myself
you had them tested to see if they are positive
or negative?
Lorrie
On 01-09, Victory_Shout wrote:
I am Tina. I live in Pa. We had gotten a litter of four female kittens
from a family whos add we responded to in the newspaper six months
ago. Their kittens needed a home and my
I'm so sorry, Sherry, I don't know how you can deal with all
these losses. How many FelV cats are there now? RIP Firefly,
and what a delightful name.
Lorrie
On 01-20, Sherry DeHaan wrote:
Through tears I am writing this,Sids has lost another wonderful girl
todayFirefly got her
it in remission for years with no symptoms, and others
are not so lucky. Give your ginger kitty good food, no stress,
and lots of love, and if she should show signs of illness get her
to the vet right away. Many FelV related illnesses can be treated.
Please keep us posted on her.
Lorrie
From
Please get your kitty to the vet right away. If he is hiding and not
eating he is most likely dying. Please don't let him suffer and die
slowly and in pain. My heart goes out to you, but if your vet says
there is nothing more to do euthanasia is a gentle, peaceful death.
I think my kitty is
On 02-06, Lynda Wilson wrote:
I've never heard of a PSA. Is this new?
L
I thought PSA was a prostate check for men.
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to take money from people and give them
false hope.
Lorrie (aka older and wiser)
On 02-19, Ruth Parsons wrote:
Hi
I appreciate all the info on FELV this group provides. I research
treatments suggested and look for a variety of reliable sources to
help me care for our
Please rush him to the vet immediately.
On 02-27, Rashel Mereness wrote:
Hi - I'm new and have been reading the threads but I don't seen
anything that addresses my situation. We have an 8 month old kitty
that tested positive for FIV (or was it FELV?) at a young age, and we
Grant
got in over his head, but didn't mean to abuse the cats.
AS for jury duty I'd say I had to listen to the details
before making a decision. That way I'd be chosen for the jury.
Then when the jury voted I'd give this cruel SOB what he deserves.
Lorrie
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