Re: [Felvtalk] My 11 and 1/2 year old indoor only male cat was diagnosed with FeLV....

[Amani Oakley]

Oh, thank you. I somehow read it as two cats, one who was 11 and one who is ½ a 
year old.

Sorry about that Jason, but I agree with Kat. The Winstrol works no matter the 
age.

Amani

From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of kat
Sent: January 1, 2022 7:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 11 and 1/2 year old indoor only male cat was 
diagnosed with FeLV

Amani,

I think Jason said Kitty is 11.5 years old...  I agree with you about the 
Winstrol protocol, no matter what the age.

Kat (Mew Jersey)


Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 at 4:08 PM
From: "Amani Oakley" mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>>
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 11 and 1/2 year old indoor only male cat was 
diagnosed with FeLV
Jason, if your baby is only ½ a year old, he may have been born with it or had 
it before you took him in.

I have written many times on this chatline about my own success with Zander, my 
baby who had FeLV and we were told there was no hope and to just put him down.

What worked for us was Winstrol (Stanozolol), an anabolic steroid – the “Ben 
Johnson steroid”. Unfortunately, because many many athletes use Stanozolol to 
improve their performance and to heal injuries faster, the scientific community 
has labeled this steroid as “evil”, and stupidly ignore it and will not use it 
on either humans or animals. It used to be regularly given to cats, because 
cats in particular, really respond well to it. There was a really 
poorly-researched vet paper years ago, which suggested Winstrol causes liver 
failure in cats, so vets just abruptly stopped using it. In my case, after 
trying EVERYTHING including interferon and LCTI. We tried each for 4 to 6 
months, while monitoring blood work every week. There was no change or 
improvement in red cell count, haematocrit, reticulocytes, etc. Here is my 
original post on this chatline, from 2015, and I have repeated this advice many 
times over the years. Several people have reported success using “Zander’s 
protocol” which I describe below:


I had a cat with leukemia as a kitten, and he lived to the age of 7 and died 
from something else that I don’t believe was related to the leukemia. When the 
vets told me that they could do nothing for him as a kitten dying with leukemia 
(and he WAS dying - his red cells were dropping down to nothing and I had given 
him TWO blood transfusions that weren't holding up his numbers to any great 
degree) then as a last ditch effort, I tried some Winstrol I had in the 
cupboard that a previous vet had given to me for another cat.


This medication turned him completely around. To monitor his condition, we were 
performing weekly blood tests on him - CBC, liver function, etc. After being 
put on the Winstrol, his red cells and white cell counts began to climb very 
quickly and steadily. It was totally amazing and the vets couldn't believe the 
lab results either. My beautiful little boy was out of the woods in about six 
months. We were obsessively checking the pinkness of his ears, gums and pads to 
check the status of his profound anemia, and to our unbelievable joy, he began 
to get pink and his lab results just kept getting better. After about a year, I 
called back the internal medicine veterinarian we had seen, and who had told us 
there was no hope, and told him of our beautiful cat's recovery. To my surprise 
- and a little bit of anger - he said that I had gone "old school" and that 
Winstrol used to be used but then there were rumours of possible liver damage 
associated with it, and vets stopped prescribing it. This REALLY annoyed me. My 
cat was dying and no one thought that maybe, just maybe, some treatment - even 
with a potential side effect - was better than no treatment??? In our 
experience, on a few occasions the liver enzymes would indeed rise, but would 
drop back down to normal fairly quickly after a short break from the Winstrol. 
We monitored our beautiful Zander very closely during and after his initial 
crisis, and if I thought that maybe he was looking pale again, or if the CBC 
came back with a significantly dropping red cell count, we would put him back 
on the Winstrol for a 4 to 6 week period, and it would fix him right up.

The Winstrol also really helped to increase his appetite so I could get him to 
eat when he was so very sick.

I used it at a level of 1 mg two times a day when he was really sick, and when 
he started to recover, I cut it back to 1 mg a day, or even 1/2 mg a day for a 
maintenance dose. I would often pair it with prednisone as well (5 mg a day) 
and Doxycycline (50 mg a day).

I have looked after a very large number of strays over the years and I have a 
science and medicine background in science and microbiology and laboratory 
medicine, so I tested and analyzed the lab results we were getting, using this 
knowledge. I have since used Winstrol in my cats in a number of 

Re: [Felvtalk] My 11 and 1/2 year old indoor only male cat was diagnosed with FeLV....

[kat]

Amani,

 

I think Jason said Kitty is 11.5 years old...  I agree with you about the Winstrol protocol, no matter what the age.

 

Kat (Mew Jersey)

 
 

Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 at 4:08 PM
From: "Amani Oakley" 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 11 and 1/2 year old indoor only male cat was diagnosed with FeLV




Jason, if your baby is only ½ a year old, he may have been born with it or had it before you took him in.

 

I have written many times on this chatline about my own success with Zander, my baby who had FeLV and we were told there was no hope and to just put him down.

 

What worked for us was Winstrol (Stanozolol), an anabolic steroid – the “Ben Johnson steroid”. Unfortunately, because many many athletes use Stanozolol to improve their performance and to heal injuries faster, the scientific community has labeled this steroid as “evil”, and stupidly ignore it and will not use it on either humans or animals. It used to be regularly given to cats, because cats in particular, really respond well to it. There was a really poorly-researched vet paper years ago, which suggested Winstrol causes liver failure in cats, so vets just abruptly stopped using it. In my case, after trying EVERYTHING including interferon and LCTI. We tried each for 4 to 6 months, while monitoring blood work every week. There was no change or improvement in red cell count, haematocrit, reticulocytes, etc. Here is my original post on this chatline, from 2015, and I have repeated this advice many times over the years. Several people have reported success using “Zander’s protocol” which I describe below:

 

 

I had a cat with leukemia as a kitten, and he lived to the age of 7 and died from something else that I don’t believe was related to the leukemia. When the vets told me that they could do nothing for him as a kitten dying with leukemia (and he WAS dying - his red cells were dropping down to nothing and I had given him TWO blood transfusions that weren't holding up his numbers to any great degree) then as a last ditch effort, I tried some Winstrol I had in the cupboard that a previous vet had given to me for another cat. 

 

 

This medication turned him completely around. To monitor his condition, we were performing weekly blood tests on him - CBC, liver function, etc. After being put on the Winstrol, his red cells and white cell counts began to climb very quickly and steadily. It was totally amazing and the vets couldn't believe the lab results either. My beautiful little boy was out of the woods in about six months. We were obsessively checking the pinkness of his ears, gums and pads to check the status of his profound anemia, and to our unbelievable joy, he began to get pink and his lab results just kept getting better. After about a year, I called back the internal medicine veterinarian we had seen, and who had told us there was no hope, and told him of our beautiful cat's recovery. To my surprise - and a little bit of anger - he said that I had gone "old school" and that Winstrol used to be used but then there were rumours of possible liver damage associated with it, and vets stopped prescribing it. This REALLY annoyed me. My cat was dying and no one thought that maybe, just maybe, some treatment - even with a potential side effect - was better than no treatment??? In our experience, on a few occasions the liver enzymes would indeed rise, but would drop back down to normal fairly quickly after a short break from the Winstrol. We monitored our beautiful Zander very closely during and after his initial crisis, and if I thought that maybe he was looking pale again, or if the CBC came back with a significantly dropping red cell count, we would put him back on the Winstrol for a 4 to 6 week period, and it would fix him right up.

The Winstrol also really helped to increase his appetite so I could get him to eat when he was so very sick.

I used it at a level of 1 mg two times a day when he was really sick, and when he started to recover, I cut it back to 1 mg a day, or even 1/2 mg a day for a maintenance dose. I would often pair it with prednisone as well (5 mg a day) and Doxycycline (50 mg a day).

I have looked after a very large number of strays over the years and I have a science and medicine background in science and microbiology and laboratory medicine, so I tested and analyzed the lab results we were getting, using this knowledge. I have since used Winstrol in my cats in a number of other situations where vets have told me there is no hope, and I have to say that it has come through more often than not.

I therefore could not understand the reluctance of the veterinary - and medical community for that matter - to consider Winstrol, especially in circumstances where vets are telling pet owners that there are no other options and their kitten or cat will die.

I have had to do a fair amount of internet research and spoken to a number of veterinarians about this. I have 

Re: [Felvtalk] My 11 and 1/2 year old indoor only male cat was diagnosed with FeLV....

[dlg...@windstream.net]

RE:  Winstrol, leave it up to humans to mess things up, over using drugs.  
- Original Message -
From: Amani Oakley 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, 01 Jan 2022 16:08:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 11 and 1/2 year old indoor only male cat was 
diagnosed with FeLV

Jason, if your baby is only ½ a year old, he may have been born with it or 
had it before you took him in. I have written many times on this chatline about 
my own success with Zander, my baby who had FeLV and we were told there was no 
hope and to just put him down. What worked for us was Winstrol (Stanozolol), an 
anabolic steroid – the “Ben Johnson steroid”. Unfortunately, because many many 
athletes use Stanozolol to improve their performance and to heal injuries 
faster, the scientific community has
 labeled this steroid as “evil”, and stupidly ignore it and will not use it on 
either humans or animals. It used to be regularly given to cats, because cats 
in particular, really respond well to it. There was a really poorly-researched 
vet paper years ago,
 which suggested Winstrol causes liver failure in cats, so vets just abruptly 
stopped using it. In my case, after trying EVERYTHING including interferon and 
LCTI. We tried each for 4 to 6 months, while monitoring blood work every week. 
There was no change or
 improvement in red cell count, haematocrit, reticulocytes, etc. Here is my 
original post on this chatline, from 2015, and I have repeated this advice many 
times over the years. Several people have reported success using “Zander’s 
protocol” which I describe
 below:  I had a cat with leukemia as a kitten, and he lived to the age of 7 
and died from something else that I don’t believe was related to the leukemia. 
When
 the vets told me that they could do nothing for him as a kitten dying with 
leukemia (and he WAS dying - his red cells were dropping down to nothing and I 
had given him TWO blood transfusions that weren't holding up his numbers to any 
great degree) then as
 a last ditch effort, I tried some Winstrol I had in the cupboard that a 
previous vet had given to me for another cat.
  This medication turned him completely around. To monitor his condition, we 
were performing weekly blood tests on him - CBC, liver function, etc. After
 being put on the Winstrol, his red cells and white cell counts began to climb 
very quickly and steadily. It was totally amazing and the vets couldn't believe 
the lab results either. My beautiful little boy was out of the woods in about 
six months. We were
 obsessively checking the pinkness of his ears, gums and pads to check the 
status of his profound anemia, and to our unbelievable joy, he began to get 
pink and his lab results just kept getting better. After about a year, I called 
back the internal medicine
 veterinarian we had seen, and who had told us there was no hope, and told him 
of our beautiful cat's recovery. To my surprise - and a little bit of anger - 
he said that I had gone "old school" and that Winstrol used to be used but then 
there were rumours of
 possible liver damage associated with it, and vets stopped prescribing it. 
This REALLY annoyed me. My cat was dying and no one thought that maybe, just 
maybe, some treatment - even with a potential side effect - was better than no 
treatment??? In our experience,
 on a few occasions the liver enzymes would indeed rise, but would drop back 
down to normal fairly quickly after a short break from the Winstrol. We 
monitored our beautiful Zander very closely during and after his initial 
crisis, and if I thought that maybe
 he was looking pale again, or if the CBC came back with a significantly 
dropping red cell count, we would put him back on the Winstrol for a 4 to 6 
week period, and it would fix him right up.


The Winstrol also really helped to increase his appetite so I could get him to 
eat when he was so very sick.


I used it at a level of 1 mg two times a day when he was really sick, and when 
he started to recover, I cut it back to 1 mg a day, or even 1/2 mg a day for a 
maintenance dose. I would often pair it with prednisone as well (5 mg a day) 
and Doxycycline (50 mg
 a day).


I have looked after a very large number of strays over the years and I have a 
science and medicine background in science and microbiology and laboratory 
medicine, so I tested and analyzed the lab results we were getting, using this 
knowledge. I have since used
 Winstrol in my cats in a number of other situations where vets have told me 
there is no hope, and I have to say that it has come through more often than 
not.


I therefore could not understand the reluctance of the veterinary - and medical 
community for that matter - to consider Winstrol, especially in circumstances 
where vets are telling pet owners that there are no other options and their 
kitten or cat will die.


I have had to do a fair amount of internet research and spoken to a number of 
veterinarians about this. I have personally 

Re: [Felvtalk] My 11 and 1/2 year old indoor only male cat was diagnosed with FeLV....

[Amani Oakley]

Jason, if your baby is only ½ a year old, he may have been born with it or had 
it before you took him in.

I have written many times on this chatline about my own success with Zander, my 
baby who had FeLV and we were told there was no hope and to just put him down.

What worked for us was Winstrol (Stanozolol), an anabolic steroid – the “Ben 
Johnson steroid”. Unfortunately, because many many athletes use Stanozolol to 
improve their performance and to heal injuries faster, the scientific community 
has labeled this steroid as “evil”, and stupidly ignore it and will not use it 
on either humans or animals. It used to be regularly given to cats, because 
cats in particular, really respond well to it. There was a really 
poorly-researched vet paper years ago, which suggested Winstrol causes liver 
failure in cats, so vets just abruptly stopped using it. In my case, after 
trying EVERYTHING including interferon and LCTI. We tried each for 4 to 6 
months, while monitoring blood work every week. There was no change or 
improvement in red cell count, haematocrit, reticulocytes, etc. Here is my 
original post on this chatline, from 2015, and I have repeated this advice many 
times over the years. Several people have reported success using “Zander’s 
protocol” which I describe below:


I had a cat with leukemia as a kitten, and he lived to the age of 7 and died 
from something else that I don’t believe was related to the leukemia. When the 
vets told me that they could do nothing for him as a kitten dying with leukemia 
(and he WAS dying - his red cells were dropping down to nothing and I had given 
him TWO blood transfusions that weren't holding up his numbers to any great 
degree) then as a last ditch effort, I tried some Winstrol I had in the 
cupboard that a previous vet had given to me for another cat.


This medication turned him completely around. To monitor his condition, we were 
performing weekly blood tests on him - CBC, liver function, etc. After being 
put on the Winstrol, his red cells and white cell counts began to climb very 
quickly and steadily. It was totally amazing and the vets couldn't believe the 
lab results either. My beautiful little boy was out of the woods in about six 
months. We were obsessively checking the pinkness of his ears, gums and pads to 
check the status of his profound anemia, and to our unbelievable joy, he began 
to get pink and his lab results just kept getting better. After about a year, I 
called back the internal medicine veterinarian we had seen, and who had told us 
there was no hope, and told him of our beautiful cat's recovery. To my surprise 
- and a little bit of anger - he said that I had gone "old school" and that 
Winstrol used to be used but then there were rumours of possible liver damage 
associated with it, and vets stopped prescribing it. This REALLY annoyed me. My 
cat was dying and no one thought that maybe, just maybe, some treatment - even 
with a potential side effect - was better than no treatment??? In our 
experience, on a few occasions the liver enzymes would indeed rise, but would 
drop back down to normal fairly quickly after a short break from the Winstrol. 
We monitored our beautiful Zander very closely during and after his initial 
crisis, and if I thought that maybe he was looking pale again, or if the CBC 
came back with a significantly dropping red cell count, we would put him back 
on the Winstrol for a 4 to 6 week period, and it would fix him right up.

The Winstrol also really helped to increase his appetite so I could get him to 
eat when he was so very sick.

I used it at a level of 1 mg two times a day when he was really sick, and when 
he started to recover, I cut it back to 1 mg a day, or even 1/2 mg a day for a 
maintenance dose. I would often pair it with prednisone as well (5 mg a day) 
and Doxycycline (50 mg a day).

I have looked after a very large number of strays over the years and I have a 
science and medicine background in science and microbiology and laboratory 
medicine, so I tested and analyzed the lab results we were getting, using this 
knowledge. I have since used Winstrol in my cats in a number of other 
situations where vets have told me there is no hope, and I have to say that it 
has come through more often than not.

I therefore could not understand the reluctance of the veterinary - and medical 
community for that matter - to consider Winstrol, especially in circumstances 
where vets are telling pet owners that there are no other options and their 
kitten or cat will die.

I have had to do a fair amount of internet research and spoken to a number of 
veterinarians about this. I have personally concluded that due to the 
association of Winstrol with athletic doping scandals, the scientific community 
as a whole has decided to abandon what might indeed be a promising drug. This 
saddens me but I simply can see no other explanation. I mean really - does it 
make sense to hear from vets that the drug MAY