Re: [Felvtalk] feline leuk and shaken cat syndrome ??

2016-09-28 Thread Amani Oakley
Roxanne

First, I am so very sorry for your loss. It never, ever gets any easier, but 
you must know how much you did for your baby.

Your question is not a stupid one. What you are asking about could 
theoretically be possible. A cat’s brain is no different than a baby’s brain, 
and if you shake a cat hard, you could possibly cause the cat’s brain to 
herniate (swell and ultimately push down into the hole at the base of the 
skull). However, from what you describe, the more likely answer is something 
akin to a stroke, which is the result of a clot lodging in the brain and/or a 
haemorrhagic stroke where blood vessels burst in the brain, blocking an area 
from receiving blood flow. Just like in people, strokes can happen in many 
conditions, particularly in debilitated patients.

I think that is the likely answer here Roxanne, so there is no reason to 
suspect your babysitter did something wrong.

Again, my heart goes out to you for your loss of Neveah.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Roxanne Smith
Sent: September-27-16 2:26 AM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] feline leuk and shaken cat syndrome ??

It has been awhile since I have looked at my emails and or participated in this 
group-but I am desperate for some help and answers, of which I am not even sure 
I explain all in an email.
Here goes, another one of my feline leuk cats died yesterday (Monday) AM.
She dropped to 6.4 pounds, lost a pound in one month-has not really been eating 
for days, keeping to herself, hiding, but would sit by me. The last two or 
three days she would no longer sleep with me.
I went to Florida a couple of weeks ago, had a babysitter come in daily to 
check on her-and she appeared to be doing well but starting going downhill, 
Neveah--cat lost about one pound in a month time period.
So this is where I really need help-and please pass on to see additional 
answers. I have noticed only a few people ever answer or respond to emails but 
I can say much as I never do. :.(
So I took Neveah to the ER Monday AM, as her temp dropped to 98.5, she could 
not move, and her rt eye was dilated and would not go back to normal and left 
eye appeared to be fine. Sunday my friend was in the room with her for hours 
and noticed the cat Neveah was acting/walking not correctly. Is anyone every 
heard of shaken cat syndrome-is it possible my friend dropped Neveah, or shook 
her in the room and caused her to have a blood clot-yes I am grasping here.
As with everyone I feel bad, should I have been more aggressive in giving her 
sub q fluids, obviously too late now, she is gone.
I have requested her latest blood panel for my records, but I know her kidney 
panels were not good.
Is anyone in this group but any chance from the Milwaukee area/ Or there any 
vets in this group, whom would be willing to speak with me.
Please be as honest as possible-or if you need more information before you 
answer please let me know that as well
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Re: [Felvtalk] feline leuk and shaken cat syndrome ??

2016-09-27 Thread Sandy
Roxanne I'm so sorry Neveah has died - it never gets any easier. 
Sandy W 

- Original Message -

From: "Margo" <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> 
To: "Roxanne Smith" <rescuek9li...@sbcglobal.net>, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 6:36:43 AM 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] feline leuk and shaken cat syndrome ?? 


Dear Roxanne, 

I'm sorry that Neveah has gone on to The Bridge. 

I have never heard of "Shaken Cat Syndrome", nor can I find anything on the web 
that makes sense. I certainly 
don't think your friend had anything to do Neveah's death. The uneven pupils 
are called anisocoria, and are common in FeLV cats; 

https://www.vetinfo.com/anisocoria-in-cats.html 

I would guess that she just came end of her time. And yes, the stress of your 
being gone may have started her on a downhill trend, and this time she wasn't 
able to recover. Treating her kidney insufficiency might have given her a bit 
more time, but hind-sight is useless in situations like this. 

I hope you will find a way just let her go. 

Wishing you peace and healing, 

Margo 

Lend Me a Kitten 

I will lend to you for awhile a kitten, God said. 
For you to love while he lives, and mourn when he's dead. 
Maybe for twelve or fourteen years, or maybe two or three. 
But will you, 'till I call him back, take care of him for me? 

He'll bring his charms to gladden you and, should his stay be brief 
You'll always have his memories as solace for your grief. 
I cannot promise he will stay, since all from earth return. 
But there are lessons taught below I want this kitten to learn. 

I've looked the whole world over in search of teachers true. 
And from the folk that crowds life's land I have chosen you. 
Now will you give him all your love, nor think the labor vain? 
Nor hate me when I come to take my kitten home again? 

I fancied that I heard them say 'Dear Lord Thy Will Be Done' 
For all the joys this kitten brings the risk of grief we'll run. 
We'll shelter him with tenderness, we'll love him while we may. 
And for the happiness we've known, forever grateful stay. 

But should you call him back much sooner than we planned, 
We'll brave the bitter grief that comes, and try to understand. 
If, by our love we've managed your wishes to achieve, 
Then in memory of him whom we loved, please help us while we grieve. 
When our cherished kitten departs this world of strife, 
Please send yet another needing soul for us to love all his life. 

Author Unknown 


-Original Message- 
From: Roxanne Smith . 
Sent: Sep 27, 2016 2:25 AM 
To: Felvtalk 
Subject: [Felvtalk] feline leuk and shaken cat syndrome ?? 

It has been awhile since I have looked at my emails and or participated in this 
group-but I am desperate for some help and answers, of which I am not even sure 
I explain all in an email. 
Here goes, another one of my feline leuk cats died yesterday (Monday) AM. 
She dropped to 6.4 pounds, lost a pound in one month-has not really been eating 
for days, keeping to herself, hiding, but would sit by me. The last two or 
three days she would no longer sleep with me. 

I went to Florida a couple of weeks ago, had a babysitter come in daily to 
check on her-and she appeared to be doing well but starting going downhill, 
Neveah--cat lost about one pound in a month time period. 

So this is where I really need help-and please pass on to see additional 
answers. I have noticed only a few people ever answer or respond to emails but 
I can say much as I never do. :.( 
So I took Neveah to the ER Monday AM, as her temp dropped to 98.5, she could 
not move, and her rt eye was dilated and would not go back to normal and left 
eye appeared to be fine. Sunday my friend was in the room with her for hours 
and noticed the cat Neveah was acting/walking not correctly. Is anyone every 
heard of shaken cat syndrome-is it possible my friend dropped Neveah, or shook 
her in the room and caused her to have a blood clot-yes I am grasping here. 

As with everyone I feel bad, should I have been more aggressive in giving her 
sub q fluids, obviously too late now, she is gone. 

I have requested her latest blood panel for my records, but I know her kidney 
panels were not good. 

Is anyone in this group but any chance from the Milwaukee area/ Or there any 
vets in this group, whom would be willing to speak with me. 

Please be as honest as possible-or if you need more information before you 
answer please let me know that as well 




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Re: [Felvtalk] feline leuk and shaken cat syndrome ??

2016-09-27 Thread Margo
Dear Roxanne,   I'm sorry that Neveah has gone on to The Bridge.  I have never heard of "Shaken Cat Syndrome", nor can I find anything on the web that makes sense. I certainly don't think your friend had anything to do Neveah's death. The uneven pupils are called anisocoria, and are common in FeLV cats;   https://www.vetinfo.com/anisocoria-in-cats.html  I would guess that she just came end of her time. And yes, the stress of your being gone may have started her on a downhill trend, and this time she wasn't able to recover. Treating her kidney insufficiency might have given her a bit more time, but hind-sight is useless in situations like this.I hope you will find a way just let her go.Wishing you peace and healing,MargoLend Me a Kitten

I will lend to you for awhile a kitten, God said.
For you to love while he lives, and mourn when he's dead.
Maybe for twelve or fourteen years, or maybe two or three.
But will you, 'till I call him back, take care of him for me?

He'll bring his charms to gladden you and, should his stay be brief
You'll always have his memories as solace for your grief.
I cannot promise he will stay, since all from earth return.
But there are lessons taught below I want this kitten to learn.

I've looked the whole world over in search of teachers true.
And from the folk that crowds life's land I have chosen you.
Now will you give him all your love, nor think the labor vain?
Nor hate me when I come to take my kitten home again?

I fancied that I heard them say 'Dear Lord Thy Will Be Done'
For all the joys this kitten brings the risk of grief we'll run.
We'll shelter him with tenderness, we'll love him while we may.
And for the happiness we've known, forever grateful stay.

But should you call him back much sooner than we planned,
We'll brave the bitter grief that comes, and try to understand.
If, by our love we've managed your wishes to achieve,
Then in memory of him whom we loved, please help us while we grieve.
When our cherished kitten departs this world of strife,
Please send yet another needing soul for us to love all his life.

Author Unknown-Original Message-
From: Roxanne Smith <rescuek9li...@sbcglobal.net>
. Sent: Sep 27, 2016 2:25 AM
To: Felvtalk <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] feline leuk and shaken cat syndrome ??

It has been awhile since I have looked at my emails and or participated in this group-but I am desperate for some help and answers, of which I am not even sure I explain all in an email.Here goes, another one of my feline leuk cats died yesterday (Monday) AM.She dropped to 6.4 pounds, lost a pound in one month-has not really been eating for days, keeping to herself, hiding, but would sit by me. The last two or three days she would no longer sleep with me.I went to Florida a couple of weeks ago, had a babysitter come in daily to check on her-and she appeared to be doing well but starting going downhill, Neveah--cat lost about one pound in a month time period.So this is where I really need help-and please pass on to see additional answers. I have noticed only a few people ever answer or respond to emails but I can say much as I never do. :.(So I took Neveah to the ER Monday AM, as her temp dropped to 98.5, she could not move, and her rt eye was dilated and would not go back to normal and left eye appeared to be fine. Sunday my friend was in the room with her for hours and noticed the cat Neveah was acting/walking not correctly. Is anyone every heard of shaken cat syndrome-is it possible my friend dropped Neveah, or shook her in the room and caused her to have a blood clot-yes I am grasping here.As with everyone I feel bad, should I have been more aggressive in giving her sub q fluids, obviously too late now, she is gone.I have requested her latest blood panel for my records, but I know her kidney panels were not good. Is anyone in this group but any chance from the Milwaukee area/ Or there any vets in this group, whom would be willing to speak with me.Please be as honest as possible-or if you need more information before you answer please let me know that as well

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[Felvtalk] feline leuk and shaken cat syndrome ??

2016-09-27 Thread Roxanne Smith
It has been awhile since I have looked at my emails and or participated in this 
group-but I am desperate for some help and answers, of which I am not even sure 
I explain all in an email.Here goes, another one of my feline leuk cats died 
yesterday (Monday) AM.She dropped to 6.4 pounds, lost a pound in one month-has 
not really been eating for days, keeping to herself, hiding, but would sit by 
me. The last two or three days she would no longer sleep with me.I went to 
Florida a couple of weeks ago, had a babysitter come in daily to check on 
her-and she appeared to be doing well but starting going downhill, Neveah--cat 
lost about one pound in a month time period.So this is where I really need 
help-and please pass on to see additional answers. I have noticed only a few 
people ever answer or respond to emails but I can say much as I never do. :.(So 
I took Neveah to the ER Monday AM, as her temp dropped to 98.5, she could not 
move, and her rt eye was dilated and would not go back to normal and left eye 
appeared to be fine. Sunday my friend was in the room with her for hours and 
noticed the cat Neveah was acting/walking not correctly. Is anyone every heard 
of shaken cat syndrome-is it possible my friend dropped Neveah, or shook her in 
the room and caused her to have a blood clot-yes I am grasping here.As with 
everyone I feel bad, should I have been more aggressive in giving her sub q 
fluids, obviously too late now, she is gone.I have requested her latest blood 
panel for my records, but I know her kidney panels were not good. Is anyone in 
this group but any chance from the Milwaukee area/ Or there any vets in this 
group, whom would be willing to speak with me.Please be as honest as 
possible-or if you need more information before you answer please let me know 
that as well
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