Re: [Felvtalk] Annie
I'm so very sorry about Annie.. it's so hard to lose them but she was so fortunate to have you! Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Annie I have known all along that I would loose her one day, but it still hurts. She did have 8 years with me so I have that to be thankful for. She joins a growing list of furbabies that have crossed over the bridge. Now she will be in pain no longer. Amani Oakley wrote: > I don't have a lot to go on, but based on the results, and the physical finding of a painful kidney, it might be a kidney infection gone septic. The total white cell count is low, which may occur when the white cells migrate out of blood circulation to move towards an area of infection in the tissues. You have given a low neutrophil count, but I would also be interested in what is the percentage of neutrophils. If it is a bacterial infection, I would expect a higher than normal percentage of neutrophils. Also, I would be looking for a left shift in the neutrophils. Did they report any immature neutrophils like band cells? Any other neutrophil abnormalities such as toxic granulation? > > The first thing I would focus on is ensuring sufficient hydration. Keep up with the subcutaneous fluids at home. Also, oxygen would help since you want to keep the cells well-perfused and with the dehydration and drop of red cells (though they aren't too low), and oxygen needed at the clinic, you should give her some more if you have a source of it at home. I am concerned that she isn't already on doxycycline. I would perhaps ask the vet to consider intravenous antibiotics, to get the antibiotics levels to go up faster than orally, and then you can give her the oral antibiotics. If it is a kidney infection, fluid replacement and antibiotic therapy is likely far more important than food intake right now. > > It isn't clear that this is an infection, but it might be. Was she tested for vital signs? Did she have temperature, and possibly elevated heart rate. It seems that she certainly would have had a reduced blood pressure, which again is consistent with sepsis from an infection, but isn't the only thing that might cause that. > > I don't think this is a Winstrol situation just yet. I think instead that a combination of broad spectrum antibiotics along with some prednisone/prednisolone might be the better approach. > > However, given that there is no definitive diagnosis yet, you need to watch her closely. If there isn't an improvement fairly quickly on the antibiotics, your vet will probably be considering other explanations. > > Amani > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net > Sent: May-31-17 5:52 PM > To: felv > Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie > > We just got back from the vet and Annie is not in good shape. She stopped eating this am. I did get some broth from Mackeral down her, but no soloids. The vet has ordered Doxy formulated so it will be liquid. She will get it 2 times daily. I have told her about Winstrol and she read up on it and is willing to get it for us is needed. She had to try 3 times for blood. It came out so slowely and started clotting too fast to to the tests. She is also dehydrated so gave sub q fluids and gave me more to bring home. She also had to give her some oxygen for 5 minutes, her brain was not getting enough. After 5 min, she bounced back. Dr. Said she was stressed by the exam. > Bloodwork: RBC - LOW 4.78 >HCT - LOW 23.7 >HGB - LOW 8.4 >RETC HIGH 62.7 >WBC LOW 4.54 >NEU LOW 2.41 > > BUN HIGH 59 > ALKP LOW 10 > TBIL HIGH 1.5 > EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN NORMAL RANGE. > sHE ALSO SAID ONE KIDNY SEEMS ENLARGED AND SLIGHTLY FIRM AND SHE CRIED WHEN SHE APPLIED PRESSURE TO THAT AREA. > sHE HAS ALSO LOST WEIGHT, DOWN FROM 6.6 LAST VISIT. wE HAD STARTED HER ON KITTNE FOOD TO BRING HER WEIGHT UP AND SHE HAD BEEN EATING UNTIL THIS AM. i JUST RECEIVED A SHIPMENT OF BLUE BUFFALO CANNED FOOD AND I PLAN TO START HER ON THAT MIXED WITH WARM WATER. AT LEAST SHE GETS SOME NOURISHMENT FROM THE LIQUID. i ALSO HAVE A TANK OF OXYGEN LEFT FROM MY FATHER THAT i CAN GIVE HER SOME IS SHE NEEDS IT. > > aNY SUGGESTIONS? SHE WILL GO ALONG WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. sO NICE TO HAVE A VET LIKE THAT. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_fe
Re: [Felvtalk] Annie...
I would not be giving up on Annie by any means... As Amani points out her blood values are not at a critical phase... she has some signs of a possible infection that could respond to ABX treatment and you could, of course be pleasantly surprised at her ability to rally... Thiis is not to suggest that your concerns are unfounded... with my own luck of late I could easily find myself assuming that a FeLV cat of mine was on his or her way out if they had even a URI. This time around I'm fostering a cat with Terminal Cancer because I feel HE stands a better chance of surviving : ) I'm gratified that there are many in this forum who have managed to keep their FeLV charges alive for multiple years and the cumulative knowledge we all gain will help us down the line to brighten the prospects for more of these kitties down the line I'm rooting for Annie to make comeback.. Bob ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Annie
Hugs to you as you remember your dear sweet girl Annie. I am so sorry for your loss. She was cherished and loved, and will live on in your memories. On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:07 AM, kat wrote: > Thank you for loving her for the time she was with you. It never feels > like it is long enough. > > Sleep soft, dear Annie... > > Kat (Mew Jersey) > > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 10:06 PM > *From:* dlg...@windstream.net > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Annie > I have known all along that I would loose her one day, but it still hurts. > She did have 8 years with me so I have that to be thankful for. She joins a > growing list of furbabies that have crossed over the bridge. Now she will > be in pain no longer. > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Annie
Thank you for loving her for the time she was with you. It never feels like it is long enough. Sleep soft, dear Annie... Kat (Mew Jersey) Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 10:06 PM From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Annie I have known all along that I would loose her one day, but it still hurts. She did have 8 years with me so I have that to be thankful for. She joins a growing list of furbabies that have crossed over the bridge. Now she will be in pain no longer. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Annie
Oh my - stunned and I'm so sorry Sandy W - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:06:50 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Annie I have known all along that I would loose her one day, but it still hurts. She did have 8 years with me so I have that to be thankful for. She joins a growing list of furbabies that have crossed over the bridge. Now she will be in pain no longer. Amani Oakley wrote: > I don't have a lot to go on, but based on the results, and the physical > finding of a painful kidney, it might be a kidney infection gone septic. The > total white cell count is low, which may occur when the white cells migrate > out of blood circulation to move towards an area of infection in the tissues. > You have given a low neutrophil count, but I would also be interested in what > is the percentage of neutrophils. If it is a bacterial infection, I would > expect a higher than normal percentage of neutrophils. Also, I would be > looking for a left shift in the neutrophils. Did they report any immature > neutrophils like band cells? Any other neutrophil abnormalities such as toxic > granulation? > > The first thing I would focus on is ensuring sufficient hydration. Keep up > with the subcutaneous fluids at home. Also, oxygen would help since you want > to keep the cells well-perfused and with the dehydration and drop of red > cells (though they aren't too low), and oxygen needed at the clinic, you > should give her some more if you have a source of it at home. I am concerned > that she isn't already on doxycycline. I would perhaps ask the vet to > consider intravenous antibiotics, to get the antibiotics levels to go up > faster than orally, and then you can give her the oral antibiotics. If it is > a kidney infection, fluid replacement and antibiotic therapy is likely far > more important than food intake right now. > > It isn't clear that this is an infection, but it might be. Was she tested for > vital signs? Did she have temperature, and possibly elevated heart rate. It > seems that she certainly would have had a reduced blood pressure, which again > is consistent with sepsis from an infection, but isn't the only thing that > might cause that. > > I don't think this is a Winstrol situation just yet. I think instead that a > combination of broad spectrum antibiotics along with some > prednisone/prednisolone might be the better approach. > > However, given that there is no definitive diagnosis yet, you need to watch > her closely. If there isn't an improvement fairly quickly on the antibiotics, > your vet will probably be considering other explanations. > > Amani > > -Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > dlg...@windstream.net > Sent: May-31-17 5:52 PM > To: felv > Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie > > We just got back from the vet and Annie is not in good shape. She stopped > eating this am. I did get some broth from Mackeral down her, but no soloids. > The vet has ordered Doxy formulated so it will be liquid. She will get it 2 > times daily. I have told her about Winstrol and she read up on it and is > willing to get it for us is needed. She had to try 3 times for blood. It came > out so slowely and started clotting too fast to to the tests. She is also > dehydrated so gave sub q fluids and gave me more to bring home. She also had > to give her some oxygen for 5 minutes, her brain was not getting enough. > After 5 min, she bounced back. Dr. Said she was stressed by the exam. > Bloodwork: RBC - LOW 4.78 > HCT - LOW 23.7 > HGB - LOW 8.4 > RETC HIGH 62.7 > WBC LOW 4.54 > NEU LOW 2.41 > > BUN HIGH 59 > ALKP LOW 10 > TBIL HIGH 1.5 > EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN NORMAL RANGE. > sHE ALSO SAID ONE KIDNY SEEMS ENLARGED AND SLIGHTLY FIRM AND SHE CRIED WHEN > SHE APPLIED PRESSURE TO THAT AREA. > sHE HAS ALSO LOST WEIGHT, DOWN FROM 6.6 LAST VISIT. wE HAD STARTED HER ON > KITTNE FOOD TO BRING HER WEIGHT UP AND SHE HAD BEEN EATING UNTIL THIS AM. i > JUST RECEIVED A SHIPMENT OF BLUE BUFFALO CANNED FOOD AND I PLAN TO START HER > ON THAT MIXED WITH WARM WATER. AT LEAST SHE GETS SOME NOURISHMENT FROM THE > LIQUID. i ALSO HAVE A TANK OF OXYGEN LEFT FROM MY FATHER THAT i CAN GIVE HER > SOME IS SHE NEEDS IT. > > aNY SUGGESTIONS? SHE WILL GO ALONG WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. sO NICE TO HAVE > A VET LIKE THAT. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >
Re: [Felvtalk] Annie
I have known all along that I would loose her one day, but it still hurts. She did have 8 years with me so I have that to be thankful for. She joins a growing list of furbabies that have crossed over the bridge. Now she will be in pain no longer. Amani Oakley wrote: > I don't have a lot to go on, but based on the results, and the physical > finding of a painful kidney, it might be a kidney infection gone septic. The > total white cell count is low, which may occur when the white cells migrate > out of blood circulation to move towards an area of infection in the tissues. > You have given a low neutrophil count, but I would also be interested in what > is the percentage of neutrophils. If it is a bacterial infection, I would > expect a higher than normal percentage of neutrophils. Also, I would be > looking for a left shift in the neutrophils. Did they report any immature > neutrophils like band cells? Any other neutrophil abnormalities such as toxic > granulation? > > The first thing I would focus on is ensuring sufficient hydration. Keep up > with the subcutaneous fluids at home. Also, oxygen would help since you want > to keep the cells well-perfused and with the dehydration and drop of red > cells (though they aren't too low), and oxygen needed at the clinic, you > should give her some more if you have a source of it at home. I am concerned > that she isn't already on doxycycline. I would perhaps ask the vet to > consider intravenous antibiotics, to get the antibiotics levels to go up > faster than orally, and then you can give her the oral antibiotics. If it is > a kidney infection, fluid replacement and antibiotic therapy is likely far > more important than food intake right now. > > It isn't clear that this is an infection, but it might be. Was she tested for > vital signs? Did she have temperature, and possibly elevated heart rate. It > seems that she certainly would have had a reduced blood pressure, which again > is consistent with sepsis from an infection, but isn't the only thing that > might cause that. > > I don't think this is a Winstrol situation just yet. I think instead that a > combination of broad spectrum antibiotics along with some > prednisone/prednisolone might be the better approach. > > However, given that there is no definitive diagnosis yet, you need to watch > her closely. If there isn't an improvement fairly quickly on the antibiotics, > your vet will probably be considering other explanations. > > Amani > > -Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > dlg...@windstream.net > Sent: May-31-17 5:52 PM > To: felv > Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie > > We just got back from the vet and Annie is not in good shape. She stopped > eating this am. I did get some broth from Mackeral down her, but no soloids. > The vet has ordered Doxy formulated so it will be liquid. She will get it 2 > times daily. I have told her about Winstrol and she read up on it and is > willing to get it for us is needed. She had to try 3 times for blood. It > came out so slowely and started clotting too fast to to the tests. She is > also dehydrated so gave sub q fluids and gave me more to bring home. She > also had to give her some oxygen for 5 minutes, her brain was not getting > enough. After 5 min, she bounced back. Dr. Said she was stressed by the > exam. > Bloodwork: RBC - LOW 4.78 >HCT - LOW 23.7 >HGB - LOW 8.4 >RETC HIGH 62.7 >WBC LOW 4.54 >NEU LOW 2.41 > > BUN HIGH 59 > ALKP LOW 10 > TBIL HIGH 1.5 > EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN NORMAL RANGE. > sHE ALSO SAID ONE KIDNY SEEMS ENLARGED AND SLIGHTLY FIRM AND SHE CRIED WHEN > SHE APPLIED PRESSURE TO THAT AREA. > sHE HAS ALSO LOST WEIGHT, DOWN FROM 6.6 LAST VISIT. wE HAD STARTED HER ON > KITTNE FOOD TO BRING HER WEIGHT UP AND SHE HAD BEEN EATING UNTIL THIS AM. i > JUST RECEIVED A SHIPMENT OF BLUE BUFFALO CANNED FOOD AND I PLAN TO START HER > ON THAT MIXED WITH WARM WATER. AT LEAST SHE GETS SOME NOURISHMENT FROM THE > LIQUID. i ALSO HAVE A TANK OF OXYGEN LEFT FROM MY FATHER THAT i CAN GIVE HER > SOME IS SHE NEEDS IT. > > aNY SUGGESTIONS? SHE WILL GO ALONG WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. sO NICE TO > HAVE A VET LIKE THAT. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Annie
THANK YOU FOR CONFIRMING THAT WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK IT MEANS A LOT TO ME. Amani Oakley wrote: > I don't have a lot to go on, but based on the results, and the physical > finding of a painful kidney, it might be a kidney infection gone septic. The > total white cell count is low, which may occur when the white cells migrate > out of blood circulation to move towards an area of infection in the tissues. > You have given a low neutrophil count, but I would also be interested in what > is the percentage of neutrophils. If it is a bacterial infection, I would > expect a higher than normal percentage of neutrophils. Also, I would be > looking for a left shift in the neutrophils. Did they report any immature > neutrophils like band cells? Any other neutrophil abnormalities such as toxic > granulation? > > The first thing I would focus on is ensuring sufficient hydration. Keep up > with the subcutaneous fluids at home. Also, oxygen would help since you want > to keep the cells well-perfused and with the dehydration and drop of red > cells (though they aren't too low), and oxygen needed at the clinic, you > should give her some more if you have a source of it at home. I am concerned > that she isn't already on doxycycline. I would perhaps ask the vet to > consider intravenous antibiotics, to get the antibiotics levels to go up > faster than orally, and then you can give her the oral antibiotics. If it is > a kidney infection, fluid replacement and antibiotic therapy is likely far > more important than food intake right now. > > It isn't clear that this is an infection, but it might be. Was she tested for > vital signs? Did she have temperature,( WAS 99.9) and possibly elevated heart rate. It seems that she certainly would have had a reduced blood pressure, which again is consistent with sepsis from an infection, but isn't the only thing that might cause that. > > I don't think this is a Winstrol situation just yet. I think instead that a > combination of broad spectrum antibiotics along with some > prednisone/prednisolone THAT IS WHAT THE DR. THINKS AND WE CAN DO THAT > TOMORROW WHEN i GO IN TO GET THE dOXY). might be the better approach. > > However, given that there is no definitive diagnosis yet, you need to watch > her closely. If there isn't an improvement fairly quickly on the antibiotics, > your vet will probably be considering other explanations. i LIKE HER > APPROACH TO THIS AND THE FACT THAT SHE IS WILLING TO DO THE WINSTROL GIVES ME > HOPE. aNNIE IS 10 YEARS OLD AND THE VET SAID THAT THIS IS AGE WHEN FELV > BEGINS TO TAKE IT'S TOLL. > > Amani > > -Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > dlg...@windstream.net > Sent: May-31-17 5:52 PM > To: felv > Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie > > We just got back from the vet and Annie is not in good shape. She stopped > eating this am. I did get some broth from Mackeral down her, but no soloids. > The vet has ordered Doxy formulated so it will be liquid. She will get it 2 > times daily. I have told her about Winstrol and she read up on it and is > willing to get it for us is needed. She had to try 3 times for blood. It > came out so slowely and started clotting too fast to to the tests. She is > also dehydrated so gave sub q fluids and gave me more to bring home. She > also had to give her some oxygen for 5 minutes, her brain was not getting > enough. After 5 min, she bounced back. Dr. Said she was stressed by the > exam. > Bloodwork: RBC - LOW 4.78 >HCT - LOW 23.7 >HGB - LOW 8.4 >RETC HIGH 62.7 >WBC LOW 4.54 >NEU LOW 2.41 > > BUN HIGH 59 > ALKP LOW 10 > TBIL HIGH 1.5 > EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN NORMAL RANGE. > sHE ALSO SAID ONE KIDNY SEEMS ENLARGED AND SLIGHTLY FIRM AND SHE CRIED WHEN > SHE APPLIED PRESSURE TO THAT AREA. > sHE HAS ALSO LOST WEIGHT, DOWN FROM 6.6 LAST VISIT. wE HAD STARTED HER ON > KITTNE FOOD TO BRING HER WEIGHT UP AND SHE HAD BEEN EATING UNTIL THIS AM. i > JUST RECEIVED A SHIPMENT OF BLUE BUFFALO CANNED FOOD AND I PLAN TO START HER > ON THAT MIXED WITH WARM WATER. AT LEAST SHE GETS SOME NOURISHMENT FROM THE > LIQUID. i ALSO HAVE A TANK OF OXYGEN LEFT FROM MY FATHER THAT i CAN GIVE HER > SOME IS SHE NEEDS IT. > > aNY SUGGESTIONS? SHE WILL GO ALONG WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. sO NICE TO > HAVE A VET LIKE THAT. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailin
Re: [Felvtalk] Annie
I don't have enough experience to really offer advice, Amani seems to have some great suggestions for you! I just wanted to let you know we are here for you and rooting for a treatable condition and a full recovery for little Annie. Please keep us updated! On Wed, May 31, 2017, 7:47 PM Amani Oakley wrote: > I don't have a lot to go on, but based on the results, and the physical > finding of a painful kidney, it might be a kidney infection gone septic. > The total white cell count is low, which may occur when the white cells > migrate out of blood circulation to move towards an area of infection in > the tissues. You have given a low neutrophil count, but I would also be > interested in what is the percentage of neutrophils. If it is a bacterial > infection, I would expect a higher than normal percentage of neutrophils. > Also, I would be looking for a left shift in the neutrophils. Did they > report any immature neutrophils like band cells? Any other neutrophil > abnormalities such as toxic granulation? > > The first thing I would focus on is ensuring sufficient hydration. Keep up > with the subcutaneous fluids at home. Also, oxygen would help since you > want to keep the cells well-perfused and with the dehydration and drop of > red cells (though they aren't too low), and oxygen needed at the clinic, > you should give her some more if you have a source of it at home. I am > concerned that she isn't already on doxycycline. I would perhaps ask the > vet to consider intravenous antibiotics, to get the antibiotics levels to > go up faster than orally, and then you can give her the oral antibiotics. > If it is a kidney infection, fluid replacement and antibiotic therapy is > likely far more important than food intake right now. > > It isn't clear that this is an infection, but it might be. Was she tested > for vital signs? Did she have temperature, and possibly elevated heart > rate. It seems that she certainly would have had a reduced blood pressure, > which again is consistent with sepsis from an infection, but isn't the only > thing that might cause that. > > I don't think this is a Winstrol situation just yet. I think instead that > a combination of broad spectrum antibiotics along with some > prednisone/prednisolone might be the better approach. > > However, given that there is no definitive diagnosis yet, you need to > watch her closely. If there isn't an improvement fairly quickly on the > antibiotics, your vet will probably be considering other explanations. > > Amani > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > dlg...@windstream.net > Sent: May-31-17 5:52 PM > To: felv > Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie > > We just got back from the vet and Annie is not in good shape. She stopped > eating this am. I did get some broth from Mackeral down her, but no > soloids. The vet has ordered Doxy formulated so it will be liquid. She > will get it 2 times daily. I have told her about Winstrol and she read up > on it and is willing to get it for us is needed. She had to try 3 times > for blood. It came out so slowely and started clotting too fast to to the > tests. She is also dehydrated so gave sub q fluids and gave me more to > bring home. She also had to give her some oxygen for 5 minutes, her brain > was not getting enough. After 5 min, she bounced back. Dr. Said she was > stressed by the exam. > Bloodwork: RBC - LOW 4.78 >HCT - LOW 23.7 >HGB - LOW 8.4 >RETC HIGH 62.7 >WBC LOW 4.54 >NEU LOW 2.41 > > BUN HIGH 59 > ALKP LOW 10 > TBIL HIGH 1.5 > EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN NORMAL RANGE. > sHE ALSO SAID ONE KIDNY SEEMS ENLARGED AND SLIGHTLY FIRM AND SHE CRIED > WHEN SHE APPLIED PRESSURE TO THAT AREA. > sHE HAS ALSO LOST WEIGHT, DOWN FROM 6.6 LAST VISIT. wE HAD STARTED HER ON > KITTNE FOOD TO BRING HER WEIGHT UP AND SHE HAD BEEN EATING UNTIL THIS AM. > i JUST RECEIVED A SHIPMENT OF BLUE BUFFALO CANNED FOOD AND I PLAN TO START > HER ON THAT MIXED WITH WARM WATER. AT LEAST SHE GETS SOME NOURISHMENT FROM > THE LIQUID. i ALSO HAVE A TANK OF OXYGEN LEFT FROM MY FATHER THAT i CAN > GIVE HER SOME IS SHE NEEDS IT. > > aNY SUGGESTIONS? SHE WILL GO ALONG WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. sO NICE TO > HAVE A VET LIKE THAT. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Annie
I don't have a lot to go on, but based on the results, and the physical finding of a painful kidney, it might be a kidney infection gone septic. The total white cell count is low, which may occur when the white cells migrate out of blood circulation to move towards an area of infection in the tissues. You have given a low neutrophil count, but I would also be interested in what is the percentage of neutrophils. If it is a bacterial infection, I would expect a higher than normal percentage of neutrophils. Also, I would be looking for a left shift in the neutrophils. Did they report any immature neutrophils like band cells? Any other neutrophil abnormalities such as toxic granulation? The first thing I would focus on is ensuring sufficient hydration. Keep up with the subcutaneous fluids at home. Also, oxygen would help since you want to keep the cells well-perfused and with the dehydration and drop of red cells (though they aren't too low), and oxygen needed at the clinic, you should give her some more if you have a source of it at home. I am concerned that she isn't already on doxycycline. I would perhaps ask the vet to consider intravenous antibiotics, to get the antibiotics levels to go up faster than orally, and then you can give her the oral antibiotics. If it is a kidney infection, fluid replacement and antibiotic therapy is likely far more important than food intake right now. It isn't clear that this is an infection, but it might be. Was she tested for vital signs? Did she have temperature, and possibly elevated heart rate. It seems that she certainly would have had a reduced blood pressure, which again is consistent with sepsis from an infection, but isn't the only thing that might cause that. I don't think this is a Winstrol situation just yet. I think instead that a combination of broad spectrum antibiotics along with some prednisone/prednisolone might be the better approach. However, given that there is no definitive diagnosis yet, you need to watch her closely. If there isn't an improvement fairly quickly on the antibiotics, your vet will probably be considering other explanations. Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: May-31-17 5:52 PM To: felv Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie We just got back from the vet and Annie is not in good shape. She stopped eating this am. I did get some broth from Mackeral down her, but no soloids. The vet has ordered Doxy formulated so it will be liquid. She will get it 2 times daily. I have told her about Winstrol and she read up on it and is willing to get it for us is needed. She had to try 3 times for blood. It came out so slowely and started clotting too fast to to the tests. She is also dehydrated so gave sub q fluids and gave me more to bring home. She also had to give her some oxygen for 5 minutes, her brain was not getting enough. After 5 min, she bounced back. Dr. Said she was stressed by the exam. Bloodwork: RBC - LOW 4.78 HCT - LOW 23.7 HGB - LOW 8.4 RETC HIGH 62.7 WBC LOW 4.54 NEU LOW 2.41 BUN HIGH 59 ALKP LOW 10 TBIL HIGH 1.5 EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN NORMAL RANGE. sHE ALSO SAID ONE KIDNY SEEMS ENLARGED AND SLIGHTLY FIRM AND SHE CRIED WHEN SHE APPLIED PRESSURE TO THAT AREA. sHE HAS ALSO LOST WEIGHT, DOWN FROM 6.6 LAST VISIT. wE HAD STARTED HER ON KITTNE FOOD TO BRING HER WEIGHT UP AND SHE HAD BEEN EATING UNTIL THIS AM. i JUST RECEIVED A SHIPMENT OF BLUE BUFFALO CANNED FOOD AND I PLAN TO START HER ON THAT MIXED WITH WARM WATER. AT LEAST SHE GETS SOME NOURISHMENT FROM THE LIQUID. i ALSO HAVE A TANK OF OXYGEN LEFT FROM MY FATHER THAT i CAN GIVE HER SOME IS SHE NEEDS IT. aNY SUGGESTIONS? SHE WILL GO ALONG WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. sO NICE TO HAVE A VET LIKE THAT. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Annie
We just got back from the vet and Annie is not in good shape. She stopped eating this am. I did get some broth from Mackeral down her, but no soloids. The vet has ordered Doxy formulated so it will be liquid. She will get it 2 times daily. I have told her about Winstrol and she read up on it and is willing to get it for us is needed. She had to try 3 times for blood. It came out so slowely and started clotting too fast to to the tests. She is also dehydrated so gave sub q fluids and gave me more to bring home. She also had to give her some oxygen for 5 minutes, her brain was not getting enough. After 5 min, she bounced back. Dr. Said she was stressed by the exam. Bloodwork: RBC - LOW 4.78 HCT - LOW 23.7 HGB - LOW 8.4 RETC HIGH 62.7 WBC LOW 4.54 NEU LOW 2.41 BUN HIGH 59 ALKP LOW 10 TBIL HIGH 1.5 EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN NORMAL RANGE. sHE ALSO SAID ONE KIDNY SEEMS ENLARGED AND SLIGHTLY FIRM AND SHE CRIED WHEN SHE APPLIED PRESSURE TO THAT AREA. sHE HAS ALSO LOST WEIGHT, DOWN FROM 6.6 LAST VISIT. wE HAD STARTED HER ON KITTNE FOOD TO BRING HER WEIGHT UP AND SHE HAD BEEN EATING UNTIL THIS AM. i JUST RECEIVED A SHIPMENT OF BLUE BUFFALO CANNED FOOD AND I PLAN TO START HER ON THAT MIXED WITH WARM WATER. AT LEAST SHE GETS SOME NOURISHMENT FROM THE LIQUID. i ALSO HAVE A TANK OF OXYGEN LEFT FROM MY FATHER THAT i CAN GIVE HER SOME IS SHE NEEDS IT. aNY SUGGESTIONS? SHE WILL GO ALONG WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. sO NICE TO HAVE A VET LIKE THAT. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org