Re: [Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol
Amani – this sounds logical to me. I wonder if this could be done at a vet school. It could be a breakthrough in FeLV treatment! Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 1:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol Jen If that were my cat, I would consider putting him on a 4 to 6 week course of the Doxycycline. Before my cat, Zander, had his BIG crash when his haematocrit went down to 5, he had a mini crash about 2-3 months before. We were (stupidly) reassured by the fact that he recovered with the use of the Doxycycline. In hindsight, I have said many times to my husband, that I should have kept Zander on the Doxycycline. It has anti-RNA replication properties which might be the reason it sometimes seems to be effective in cases involving FeLV – ie – it interferes with the ability of the virus to replicate. I saw a programme last night on the fight against the Ebola virus, and I was struck by something that one of the doctors said. This particular doctor was himself infected by Ebola as he attempted to treat others who had the infection. He spent 40 days in isolation, with one body system after another shutting down and requiring medical intervention to keep him alive. After 40 days, he began to recover and became symptom free. He was of the view that the body can ultimately be able to mount an immunological attack on just about every challenge, if it can survive long enough to do so. It got me thinking about FeLV and I wondered if perhaps Zander’s protocol helps the body to stay alive (not succumb to things like anemia, and internal bleeding from low platelets, etc), long enough to permit the cat’s own immune response to the virus. I have no idea of course, and it is all conjecture on my part, but I think that the Doxy plays a role in slowing down viral replication. Thus, if a cat tests positive for FeLV, putting him on Doxy for a 4-6 week period, then that might give the cat the opportunity to mount an immune response. And again, please recognize that the time frame is just me thinking this sounds good because it needs to be a longer duration than the average bacterial infection – it may need to be even longer than that. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Olson Sent: March-01-17 1:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol Thank you for clarifying for me so quickly ! ! ! My new fur-baby, now called Figaro (husband named because this stray was "singing" outside on COLD morning Dec 22nd), is not sick with anything r/t being FeLV+ presently. What I understand is this regimen is for cats in hemodynamic crisis? Do you advise any action now, to suppress the leukemia virus? Jen On Mar 1, 2017 12:09 PM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com <mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com> > wrote: No – it’s just what I call it, in honour of my baby boy, Zander. I have just referred to it as such, here, among friends. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> ] On Behalf Of Jennifer Olson Sent: March-01-17 1:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol I tried searching for Zander's protocol online with no results. Is this a term or phrase coined here, or widely used in veterinary medicine? Thx, Jen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol
It seems probable to me. I went through 4 courses of chemo and none of them worked, in fact last one was killing me. After 1 year without treatment other than vitamins, minerals and prayer, I went into spontaneous remission. The Doxycycline does the same, gives the body time to heal. Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: > Jen > > If that were my cat, I would consider putting him on a 4 to 6 week course of > the Doxycycline. Before my cat, Zander, had his BIG crash when his > haematocrit went down to 5, he had a mini crash about 2-3 months before. We > were (stupidly) reassured by the fact that he recovered with the use of the > Doxycycline. In hindsight, I have said many times to my husband, that I > should have kept Zander on the Doxycycline. It has anti-RNA replication > properties which might be the reason it sometimes seems to be effective in > cases involving FeLV – ie – it interferes with the ability of the virus to > replicate. > > I saw a programme last night on the fight against the Ebola virus, and I was > struck by something that one of the doctors said. This particular doctor was > himself infected by Ebola as he attempted to treat others who had the > infection. He spent 40 days in isolation, with one body system after another > shutting down and requiring medical intervention to keep him alive. After 40 > days, he began to recover and became symptom free. He was of the view that > the body can ultimately be able to mount an immunological attack on just > about every challenge, if it can survive long enough to do so. It got me > thinking about FeLV and I wondered if perhaps Zander’s protocol helps the > body to stay alive (not succumb to things like anemia, and internal bleeding > from low platelets, etc), long enough to permit the cat’s own immune response > to the virus. I have no idea of course, and it is all conjecture on my part, > but I think that the Doxy plays a role in slowing down viral replication. > Thus, if a cat tests positive for FeLV, putting him on Doxy for a 4-6 week > period, then that might give the cat the opportunity to mount an immune > response. And again, please recognize that the time frame is just me thinking > this sounds good because it needs to be a longer duration than the average > bacterial infection – it may need to be even longer than that. > > Amani > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Jennifer Olson > Sent: March-01-17 1:28 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol > > Thank you for clarifying for me so quickly ! ! ! > My new fur-baby, now called Figaro (husband named because this stray was > "singing" outside on COLD morning Dec 22nd), is not sick with anything r/t > being FeLV+ presently. > What I understand is this regimen is for cats in hemodynamic crisis? > Do you advise any action now, to suppress the leukemia virus? > Jen > > On Mar 1, 2017 12:09 PM, "Amani Oakley" > <aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote: > No – it’s just what I call it, in honour of my baby boy, Zander. I have just > referred to it as such, here, among friends. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] > On Behalf Of Jennifer Olson > Sent: March-01-17 1:07 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol > > I tried searching for Zander's protocol online with no results. Is this a > term or phrase coined here, or widely used in veterinary medicine? > Thx, Jen > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol
Jen If that were my cat, I would consider putting him on a 4 to 6 week course of the Doxycycline. Before my cat, Zander, had his BIG crash when his haematocrit went down to 5, he had a mini crash about 2-3 months before. We were (stupidly) reassured by the fact that he recovered with the use of the Doxycycline. In hindsight, I have said many times to my husband, that I should have kept Zander on the Doxycycline. It has anti-RNA replication properties which might be the reason it sometimes seems to be effective in cases involving FeLV – ie – it interferes with the ability of the virus to replicate. I saw a programme last night on the fight against the Ebola virus, and I was struck by something that one of the doctors said. This particular doctor was himself infected by Ebola as he attempted to treat others who had the infection. He spent 40 days in isolation, with one body system after another shutting down and requiring medical intervention to keep him alive. After 40 days, he began to recover and became symptom free. He was of the view that the body can ultimately be able to mount an immunological attack on just about every challenge, if it can survive long enough to do so. It got me thinking about FeLV and I wondered if perhaps Zander’s protocol helps the body to stay alive (not succumb to things like anemia, and internal bleeding from low platelets, etc), long enough to permit the cat’s own immune response to the virus. I have no idea of course, and it is all conjecture on my part, but I think that the Doxy plays a role in slowing down viral replication. Thus, if a cat tests positive for FeLV, putting him on Doxy for a 4-6 week period, then that might give the cat the opportunity to mount an immune response. And again, please recognize that the time frame is just me thinking this sounds good because it needs to be a longer duration than the average bacterial infection – it may need to be even longer than that. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Olson Sent: March-01-17 1:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol Thank you for clarifying for me so quickly ! ! ! My new fur-baby, now called Figaro (husband named because this stray was "singing" outside on COLD morning Dec 22nd), is not sick with anything r/t being FeLV+ presently. What I understand is this regimen is for cats in hemodynamic crisis? Do you advise any action now, to suppress the leukemia virus? Jen On Mar 1, 2017 12:09 PM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote: No – it’s just what I call it, in honour of my baby boy, Zander. I have just referred to it as such, here, among friends. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] On Behalf Of Jennifer Olson Sent: March-01-17 1:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol I tried searching for Zander's protocol online with no results. Is this a term or phrase coined here, or widely used in veterinary medicine? Thx, Jen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol
Thank you for clarifying for me so quickly ! ! ! My new fur-baby, now called Figaro (husband named because this stray was "singing" outside on COLD morning Dec 22nd), is not sick with anything r/t being FeLV+ presently. What I understand is this regimen is for cats in hemodynamic crisis? Do you advise any action now, to suppress the leukemia virus? Jen On Mar 1, 2017 12:09 PM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: > No – it’s just what I call it, in honour of my baby boy, Zander. I have > just referred to it as such, here, among friends. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Jennifer Olson > *Sent:* March-01-17 1:07 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol > > > > I tried searching for Zander's protocol online with no results. Is this a > term or phrase coined here, or widely used in veterinary medicine? > > Thx, Jen > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol
No – it’s just what I call it, in honour of my baby boy, Zander. I have just referred to it as such, here, among friends. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Olson Sent: March-01-17 1:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol I tried searching for Zander's protocol online with no results. Is this a term or phrase coined here, or widely used in veterinary medicine? Thx, Jen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Zander's Protocol
I tried searching for Zander's protocol online with no results. Is this a term or phrase coined here, or widely used in veterinary medicine? Thx, Jen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
