Re: [Felvtalk] Fluid in Airway

[dlgegg]

Me too, at first I thought he was serious and was going to turn him for cruelty.

 Lorrie  wrote: 
> Hey Robert, you almost gave this poor old lady a heart attack :-)
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> On 03-08, ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
> > Funny you should mention that Jen because I DID have several recordings 
> > last season when the problem was substantially worse... Of course I 
> > couldn't locate them when I brought him to the vet...but that is the 
> > best answer to my dilemna...  The Sound is definitely pronounced enough 
> > to record well... The other day I stuck a large knife in his side to see 
> > if the fluid would come out but all I got was blood.my bad... really 
> > did little to help the problem
> > ( I AM JUST KIDDING FOLKS!..HONEST !  : ) Looks like I have 
> > some homework to do again on Airway issues in Kitties...
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 01:00 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org 
> > wrote:
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> > >   1. My Charlie (Tina Terrell)
> > >   2. Re: Fluid in Lungs or Airway... (Jennifer Olson)
> > >   3. Re: My Charlie (Amani Oakley)
> > >
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> > >Message: 1
> > >Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 20:42:26 -0600
> > >From: Tina Terrell To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >Subject: [Felvtalk] My Charlie
> > >Message-ID:
> > >   
> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > >
> > >Hello,
> > > What antibiotics seem to help FELV cats the most?Also, my Charlie 
> > >seems to
> > >respond well to Predisolone. Longterm ?
> > >Thank you in advance
> > >Blessings
> > >Tina
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> > >Message: 2
> > >Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 21:57:21 -0600
> > >From: Jennifer Olson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fluid in Lungs or Airway...
> > >Message-ID:
> > >   
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> > >
> > >Bob,
> > >Have you tried to record the sounds of his breathing to replay for a 
> > >vet?
> > >Suppose you told them about past episodes & effects of thorough 
> > >cleaning?
> > >Jen
> > >
> > >On Mar 6, 2017 8:33 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL"  wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Hello All:
> > >>
> > >>My remaining boy ( Magellin aka  " Jelly " ) has some kind of fluid 
> > >>either
> > >>in his lungs or in his trachea... The oddest thing is that despite my
> > >>hearing it ALL the time ( and even frequently cupping him to get him 
> > >>to
> > >>cough and clear it a bit) 2 Vets have failed to hear it ( and... in 
> > >>fact...
> > >>it seems to disappear when I've taken him somewhere to "show" them 
> > >>what I'm
> > >>talking about)... possibly adrenaline from being anxious about being 
> > >>in the
> > >>car and a new environment dries it up temporarily.. just like we get 
> > >>dry
> > >>mouths when we are scared??  It concerns me even though it's not 
> > >>currently
> > >>causing him a lot of distress it's just very disconcerting when I 
> > >>hear
> > >>him gurgling as he eats his dinner or as he sleeps because I simply 
> > >>don't
> > >>know what it is and if there is something I should be addressing 
> > >>before it
> > >>gets worse...   When I first got him he appeared to have an asthma 
> > >>like
> > >>condition with multiple attacks of a kind of " hacking"  each day
> > >>Interestingly that was last March as well ( when I first got him 
> > >>almost
> > >>to the day today. along his little but older "brother" who lasted 
> > >>just
> > >>under a year with me despite many many trips to vets and multiple 
> > >>meds
> > >>nearly the entire time I had him  I call him little because he 
> > >>failed
> > >>to thrive from the  get go...a poster cat for bad FeLV)   I still 
> > >>feel his
> > >>loss and I will be devastated if I were to lose this guy over 
> > >>something I
> > >>could have done something about.   The asthma like condition went 
> > >>away
> > >>after I gave the rugs a thorough cleaning, moved all the furniture 
> > >>away
> > >>from the walls and vacuumed and cleaned... got rid of as much dust as 
> > >>I
> > >>could I did so many damn things I'd be hard pressed to know which 
> > >>( if
> > >>any) were the most useful...could have been simply that when I was 
> > 

Re: [Felvtalk] Fluid in Airway

[Lorrie]

Hey Robert, you almost gave this poor old lady a heart attack :-)

Lorrie

On 03-08, ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
> Funny you should mention that Jen because I DID have several recordings 
> last season when the problem was substantially worse... Of course I 
> couldn't locate them when I brought him to the vet...but that is the 
> best answer to my dilemna...  The Sound is definitely pronounced enough 
> to record well... The other day I stuck a large knife in his side to see 
> if the fluid would come out but all I got was blood.my bad... really 
> did little to help the problem
> ( I AM JUST KIDDING FOLKS!..HONEST !  : ) Looks like I have 
> some homework to do again on Airway issues in Kitties...
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 01:00 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org 
> wrote:
> 
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> >Today's Topics:
> >
> >   1. My Charlie (Tina Terrell)
> >   2. Re: Fluid in Lungs or Airway... (Jennifer Olson)
> >   3. Re: My Charlie (Amani Oakley)
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Message: 1
> >Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 20:42:26 -0600
> >From: Tina Terrell To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: [Felvtalk] My Charlie
> >Message-ID:
> > 
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> >Hello,
> > What antibiotics seem to help FELV cats the most?Also, my Charlie 
> >seems to
> >respond well to Predisolone. Longterm ?
> >Thank you in advance
> >Blessings
> >Tina
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> >Message: 2
> >Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 21:57:21 -0600
> >From: Jennifer Olson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fluid in Lungs or Airway...
> >Message-ID:
> > 
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> >Bob,
> >Have you tried to record the sounds of his breathing to replay for a 
> >vet?
> >Suppose you told them about past episodes & effects of thorough 
> >cleaning?
> >Jen
> >
> >On Mar 6, 2017 8:33 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL"  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>Hello All:
> >>
> >>My remaining boy ( Magellin aka  " Jelly " ) has some kind of fluid 
> >>either
> >>in his lungs or in his trachea... The oddest thing is that despite my
> >>hearing it ALL the time ( and even frequently cupping him to get him 
> >>to
> >>cough and clear it a bit) 2 Vets have failed to hear it ( and... in 
> >>fact...
> >>it seems to disappear when I've taken him somewhere to "show" them 
> >>what I'm
> >>talking about)... possibly adrenaline from being anxious about being 
> >>in the
> >>car and a new environment dries it up temporarily.. just like we get 
> >>dry
> >>mouths when we are scared??  It concerns me even though it's not 
> >>currently
> >>causing him a lot of distress it's just very disconcerting when I 
> >>hear
> >>him gurgling as he eats his dinner or as he sleeps because I simply 
> >>don't
> >>know what it is and if there is something I should be addressing 
> >>before it
> >>gets worse...   When I first got him he appeared to have an asthma 
> >>like
> >>condition with multiple attacks of a kind of " hacking"  each day
> >>Interestingly that was last March as well ( when I first got him 
> >>almost
> >>to the day today. along his little but older "brother" who lasted 
> >>just
> >>under a year with me despite many many trips to vets and multiple 
> >>meds
> >>nearly the entire time I had him  I call him little because he 
> >>failed
> >>to thrive from the  get go...a poster cat for bad FeLV)   I still 
> >>feel his
> >>loss and I will be devastated if I were to lose this guy over 
> >>something I
> >>could have done something about.   The asthma like condition went 
> >>away
> >>after I gave the rugs a thorough cleaning, moved all the furniture 
> >>away
> >>from the walls and vacuumed and cleaned... got rid of as much dust as 
> >>I
> >>could I did so many damn things I'd be hard pressed to know which 
> >>( if
> >>any) were the most useful...could have been simply that when I was 
> >>finally
> >>able to open the windows THAT did it...   All that said just 
> >>wondering
> >>if anyone has had such symptoms with a cat ( sounds like one of us 
> >>might
> >>sound after a bad chest cold just as the mucuus is loosening up... 
> >>but
> >>instead of getting better it simply stays at the same level 
> >>Anyone
> >>have experience with using nebulizers with 

Re: [Felvtalk] Fluid in Airway

[Jennifer Olson]

I watch A LOT of criminal/ forensic shows-  you had me going for a second
=~O

On Mar 8, 2017 2:21 AM, "ROBERT CHAPEL"  wrote:

> Funny you should mention that Jen because I DID have several recordings
> last season when the problem was substantially worse... Of course I
> couldn't locate them when I brought him to the vet...but that is the best
> answer to my dilemna...  The Sound is definitely pronounced enough to
> record well... The other day I stuck a large knife in his side to see if
> the fluid would come out but all I got was blood.my bad... really did
> little to help the problem
> ( I AM JUST KIDDING FOLKS!..HONEST !  : ) Looks like I have
> some homework to do again on Airway issues in Kitties...
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 01:00 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> wrote:
>
> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to
>> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..."
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>1. My Charlie (Tina Terrell)
>>2. Re: Fluid in Lungs or Airway... (Jennifer Olson)
>>3. Re: My Charlie (Amani Oakley)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 20:42:26 -0600
>> From: Tina Terrell To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] My Charlie
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Hello,
>>  What antibiotics seem to help FELV cats the most?Also, my Charlie seems
>> to
>> respond well to Predisolone. Longterm ?
>> Thank you in advance
>> Blessings
>> Tina
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 21:57:21 -0600
>> From: Jennifer Olson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fluid in Lungs or Airway...
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Bob,
>> Have you tried to record the sounds of his breathing to replay for a vet?
>> Suppose you told them about past episodes & effects of thorough cleaning?
>> Jen
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2017 8:33 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hello All:
>>>
>>> My remaining boy ( Magellin aka  " Jelly " ) has some kind of fluid
>>> either
>>> in his lungs or in his trachea... The oddest thing is that despite my
>>> hearing it ALL the time ( and even frequently cupping him to get him to
>>> cough and clear it a bit) 2 Vets have failed to hear it ( and... in
>>> fact...
>>> it seems to disappear when I've taken him somewhere to "show" them what
>>> I'm
>>> talking about)... possibly adrenaline from being anxious about being in
>>> the
>>> car and a new environment dries it up temporarily.. just like we get dry
>>> mouths when we are scared??  It concerns me even though it's not
>>> currently
>>> causing him a lot of distress it's just very disconcerting when I
>>> hear
>>> him gurgling as he eats his dinner or as he sleeps because I simply don't
>>> know what it is and if there is something I should be addressing before
>>> it
>>> gets worse...   When I first got him he appeared to have an asthma like
>>> condition with multiple attacks of a kind of " hacking"  each day
>>> Interestingly that was last March as well ( when I first got him
>>> almost
>>> to the day today. along his little but older "brother" who lasted
>>> just
>>> under a year with me despite many many trips to vets and multiple meds
>>> nearly the entire time I had him  I call him little because he failed
>>> to thrive from the  get go...a poster cat for bad FeLV)   I still feel
>>> his
>>> loss and I will be devastated if I were to lose this guy over something I
>>> could have done something about.   The asthma like condition went
>>> away
>>> after I gave the rugs a thorough cleaning, moved all the furniture away
>>> from the walls and vacuumed and cleaned... got rid of as much dust as I
>>> could I did so many damn things I'd be hard pressed to know which (
>>> if
>>> any) were the most useful...could have been simply that when I was
>>> finally
>>> able to open the windows THAT did it...   All that said just
>>> wondering
>>> if anyone has had such symptoms with a cat ( sounds like one of us might
>>> sound after a bad chest cold just as the mucuus is loosening up... but
>>> instead of getting better it simply stays at the same level Anyone
>>> have experience with using nebulizers with cats ( and yes I've done the
>>> bathroom shower thing...  thats a 

Re: [Felvtalk] Fluid in Airway

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

Funny you should mention that Jen because I DID have several recordings 
last season when the problem was substantially worse... Of course I 
couldn't locate them when I brought him to the vet...but that is the 
best answer to my dilemna...  The Sound is definitely pronounced enough 
to record well... The other day I stuck a large knife in his side to see 
if the fluid would come out but all I got was blood.my bad... really 
did little to help the problem
( I AM JUST KIDDING FOLKS!..HONEST !  : ) Looks like I have 
some homework to do again on Airway issues in Kitties...



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wrote:



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   3. Re: My Charlie (Amani Oakley)


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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 20:42:26 -0600
From: Tina Terrell To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] My Charlie
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Hello,
 What antibiotics seem to help FELV cats the most?Also, my Charlie 
seems to

respond well to Predisolone. Longterm ?
Thank you in advance
Blessings
Tina
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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 21:57:21 -0600
From: Jennifer Olson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fluid in Lungs or Airway...
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Bob,
Have you tried to record the sounds of his breathing to replay for a 
vet?
Suppose you told them about past episodes & effects of thorough 
cleaning?

Jen

On Mar 6, 2017 8:33 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL"  wrote:




Hello All:

My remaining boy ( Magellin aka  " Jelly " ) has some kind of fluid 
either

in his lungs or in his trachea... The oddest thing is that despite my
hearing it ALL the time ( and even frequently cupping him to get him 
to
cough and clear it a bit) 2 Vets have failed to hear it ( and... in 
fact...
it seems to disappear when I've taken him somewhere to "show" them 
what I'm
talking about)... possibly adrenaline from being anxious about being 
in the
car and a new environment dries it up temporarily.. just like we get 
dry
mouths when we are scared??  It concerns me even though it's not 
currently
causing him a lot of distress it's just very disconcerting when I 
hear
him gurgling as he eats his dinner or as he sleeps because I simply 
don't
know what it is and if there is something I should be addressing 
before it
gets worse...   When I first got him he appeared to have an asthma 
like

condition with multiple attacks of a kind of " hacking"  each day
Interestingly that was last March as well ( when I first got him 
almost
to the day today. along his little but older "brother" who lasted 
just
under a year with me despite many many trips to vets and multiple 
meds
nearly the entire time I had him  I call him little because he 
failed
to thrive from the  get go...a poster cat for bad FeLV)   I still 
feel his
loss and I will be devastated if I were to lose this guy over 
something I
could have done something about.   The asthma like condition went 
away
after I gave the rugs a thorough cleaning, moved all the furniture 
away
from the walls and vacuumed and cleaned... got rid of as much dust as 
I
could I did so many damn things I'd be hard pressed to know which 
( if
any) were the most useful...could have been simply that when I was 
finally
able to open the windows THAT did it...   All that said just 
wondering
if anyone has had such symptoms with a cat ( sounds like one of us 
might
sound after a bad chest cold just as the mucuus is loosening up... 
but
instead of getting better it simply stays at the same level 
Anyone
have experience with using nebulizers with cats ( and yes I've done 
the
bathroom shower thing...  thats a bit wasteful)I'm 
actually
wondering about these new " Vape things... ie... if I were to add a 
small
dose of medication to it  they produce a HUGE amount of vapor and 
could
be a LOT cheaper than a nebulizer.  Wondering also if anyone has 
ever
given a cat a small dose of a mucolytic medication with what 
result.???
Ultimately I'll do a chest Xray but... these are rather pricey and 
it's
spring "wedding" time now  another cash outlay Though I