Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery

2017-07-25 Thread Pam Doore
Hi Deloris!  I pray your surgery and recovery goes well!  Praise the Lord
for good helper for your babies!
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Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery

2017-07-24 Thread dlgegg
If onlyeveryone who has a cat or dog would get them spayed/neutered there 
would not be so many for us to care for.  I have heard all kinds of excuses 
like it costs so much.  If they did get their pets spayed/neutered they would 
not have the work involved in getting rid of them.  When a new one shows up 
here, they get neutered or spayed within 2 weeks after I have found out that 
they do not belong to anyone.

 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> Hello Everyone...
Thank you so much for your concerns about " my " surgery but it is an 
unfortunate result of the structure of the mailings that this mistake 
was made    I am not having heart surgery : )  Believe it is our 
member whose email is dlegg ( wish people would put their actual names 
on their postings) I forget in between time whose name is associated 
with which address. Seems when I've made and inquiry about 
activity on the group it engenders a rash of new mailings and confusion 
reins  : )   Glad, however, to see activity and that we are all still 
here  I always learn something new when folks post their thoughts 
and practices on the group   I am humbled by so many of you and your 
commitment to your Kitties... without people such as you the world would 
be a much more bleak place for the unwanted animals of the world.  I 
get caught up in " if only's " even at my age and I think so often " if 
only" everyone would take in just  1 animal how much of an improvement 
that would make to the lives of animals everywhere.  It is such a 
shame that not everyone feels toward animals as we do... they can't 
experience the joy and wonder that an animal brings to ones life or the 
simple pleasure of having a cat sit on your chest purring while you 
watch TV ( all 14 lbs of Gilbert and his drool( I _ could_ do without 
the drool!!)... somehow calm me when I am laying on the couch just 
relaxing. and Bless you Sheila for your kindness and caring.    If 
you know anyone who could help you to become your own non-profit that 
could, potentially, reduce some of the burden of expense...   I KNOW you 
are beyond busy already but just wanted to mention it if you had not 
though about it already...  It's not a walk in the park to put in place 
but has some distinct advantages...

Bob C.


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> Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me -  it's not just spreading the FeLV to 
> others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off 
> viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats.
> I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we 
> replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement 
> door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the 
> other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen 
> guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as 
> a drum-especially when he wants attention!
>
> I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 
> years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :)
>
> That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and 
> entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have 
> inside!
>
> ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a 
> variety of brands- and fresh water
> ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by 
> law
> ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if 
> life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on 
> retirement funds ?Pray: a lot
> Will be praying for Robert too!
>
>
>
>
> -g ??
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does 
>> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about 
>> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the 
>> regular cats.  But I have a FIV cat in the m

Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery

2017-07-24 Thread dlgegg
HELLO, MY FAULT.  I FORGOT TO PUT MY NAME IN THERE.  DORLIS GROTE
I am lucky that a member of my church is going to take care of my babies while 
I am in the hospital for the surgery.  She is also taking me in and picking me 
up afterwards.  Plus getting groceries and doing any needed laundry after i get 
home as I will be on limited activity for 2 months, can't even drive.  This is 
one of those things we never think about until it happens and then we need 
help.  Just glad I do not have 28 cats or even Rebecca might balk at caring for 
that many. 

 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> Hello Everyone...
Thank you so much for your concerns about " my " surgery but it is an 
unfortunate result of the structure of the mailings that this mistake 
was made    I am not having heart surgery : )  Believe it is our 
member whose email is dlegg ( wish people would put their actual names 
on their postings) I forget in between time whose name is associated 
with which address. Seems when I've made and inquiry about 
activity on the group it engenders a rash of new mailings and confusion 
reins  : )   Glad, however, to see activity and that we are all still 
here  I always learn something new when folks post their thoughts 
and practices on the group   I am humbled by so many of you and your 
commitment to your Kitties... without people such as you the world would 
be a much more bleak place for the unwanted animals of the world.  I 
get caught up in " if only's " even at my age and I think so often " if 
only" everyone would take in just  1 animal how much of an improvement 
that would make to the lives of animals everywhere.  It is such a 
shame that not everyone feels toward animals as we do... they can't 
experience the joy and wonder that an animal brings to ones life or the 
simple pleasure of having a cat sit on your chest purring while you 
watch TV ( all 14 lbs of Gilbert and his drool( I _ could_ do without 
the drool!!)... somehow calm me when I am laying on the couch just 
relaxing. and Bless you Sheila for your kindness and caring.    If 
you know anyone who could help you to become your own non-profit that 
could, potentially, reduce some of the burden of expense...   I KNOW you 
are beyond busy already but just wanted to mention it if you had not 
though about it already...  It's not a walk in the park to put in place 
but has some distinct advantages...

Bob C.


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> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:42:51 -0700
> From: Gloria To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me -  it's not just spreading the FeLV to 
> others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off 
> viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats.
> I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we 
> replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement 
> door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the 
> other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen 
> guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as 
> a drum-especially when he wants attention!
>
> I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 
> years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :)
>
> That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and 
> entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have 
> inside!
>
> ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a 
> variety of brands- and fresh water
> ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by 
> law
> ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if 
> life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on 
> retirement funds ?Pray: a lot
> Will be praying for Robert too!
>
>
>
>
> -g ??
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does 
>> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I

Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery

2017-07-24 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL

Hello Everyone...
Thank you so much for your concerns about " my " surgery but it is an 
unfortunate result of the structure of the mailings that this mistake 
was made    I am not having heart surgery : )  Believe it is our 
member whose email is dlegg ( wish people would put their actual names 
on their postings) I forget in between time whose name is associated 
with which address. Seems when I've made and inquiry about 
activity on the group it engenders a rash of new mailings and confusion 
reins  : )   Glad, however, to see activity and that we are all still 
here  I always learn something new when folks post their thoughts 
and practices on the group   I am humbled by so many of you and your 
commitment to your Kitties... without people such as you the world would 
be a much more bleak place for the unwanted animals of the world.  I 
get caught up in " if only's " even at my age and I think so often " if 
only" everyone would take in just  1 animal how much of an improvement 
that would make to the lives of animals everywhere.  It is such a 
shame that not everyone feels toward animals as we do... they can't 
experience the joy and wonder that an animal brings to ones life or the 
simple pleasure of having a cat sit on your chest purring while you 
watch TV ( all 14 lbs of Gilbert and his drool( I _ could_ do without 
the drool!!)... somehow calm me when I am laying on the couch just 
relaxing. and Bless you Sheila for your kindness and caring.    If 
you know anyone who could help you to become your own non-profit that 
could, potentially, reduce some of the burden of expense...   I KNOW you 
are beyond busy already but just wanted to mention it if you had not 
though about it already...  It's not a walk in the park to put in place 
but has some distinct advantages...


Bob C.


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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:42:51 -0700
From: Gloria To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=utf-8

Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me -  it's not just spreading the FeLV to 
others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off 
viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats.
I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we 
replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement 
door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the 
other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen 
guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as 
a drum-especially when he wants attention!


I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 
years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :)


That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and 
entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have 
inside!


?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a 
variety of brands- and fresh water
?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by 
law
?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if 
life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on 
retirement funds ?Pray: a lot

Will be praying for Robert too!




-g ??
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
wrote:


I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does 
anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about 
letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the 
regular cats.  But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and 
not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm.  My Felv has 
no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor.I don't think 
he can be near the FIV cat.  Thanks for any info

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of ROBERT CHAPEL

Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

Hi Sheila...
Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or 
expenses) that is a lot of cats to look after
and the expen

Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery (was:Checking in.....)

2017-07-22 Thread Sandy
Robert, I pray all will go well with your surgery!! 
Sandy W 

- Original Message -

From: "kat"  
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:32:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery (was:Checking in.) 

I will be keeping you in my thoughts & prayers!! Please let us know when you 
are back home. 
Kat (Mew Jersey) 
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 at 8:04 PM 
From: dlg...@windstream.net 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Cc: "ROBERT CHAPEL"  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in. 
I HAVEN'T GOTTEN MUCH MAIL, BUT HAVE BEEN BUSY PREPARING FOR OPEN HEART SURGERY 
AND MAKING ARRANGEMENTS FOR CARE FOR THE CATS AND MY GARDEN. MEMBERS OF THE 
CHURCH ARE GOING TO HELP ME WHEN I COME HOME FROM SURGERY AND THE DOCTOR TOLD 
ME I CAN FEED, WATER AND CLEAN BOXES AND FIX MY OWN MEALS LIKE SALADS. 

 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again 
> not getting group mail 
> Has there been activity I've missed?? 
> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we 
> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just 
> enjoy it while it's happening) Wondering if any of you have 
> experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say 
> above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the 
> proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to 
> unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor 
> does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be 
> pretty well controlled Just wish I knew specifically what is helping 
> the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugscurrently he's on 
> Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, 
> prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, 
> Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer 
> scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " 
> alternative " medications which I have suspended only because the poor 
> boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something. 
> with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a 
> minimum 
> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die 
> don't and the ones that that aren't ..do 
> Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as 
> FeLV Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain 
> injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been 
> insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... 
> Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy 
> is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan 
> of animals they simply do what they have to and do it without 
> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if 
> their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful 
> caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a 
> car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running 
> around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you)... 
> Bob 
> Bob 
> 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery (was:Checking in.....)

2017-07-21 Thread kat

I will be keeping you in my thoughts & prayers!!  Please let us know when you are back home.

 

Kat (Mew Jersey)

 

Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 at 8:04 PM
From: dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: "ROBERT CHAPEL" 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.

I HAVEN'T GOTTEN MUCH MAIL, BUT HAVE BEEN BUSY PREPARING FOR OPEN HEART SURGERY AND MAKING ARRANGEMENTS FOR CARE FOR THE CATS AND MY GARDEN. MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH ARE GOING TO HELP ME WHEN I COME HOME FROM SURGERY AND THE DOCTOR TOLD ME I CAN FEED, WATER AND CLEAN BOXES AND FIX MY OWN MEALS LIKE SALADS.

 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote:
> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again
> not getting group mail
> Has there been activity I've missed??
> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we
> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just
> enjoy it while it's happening)    Wondering if any of you have
> experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say
> above 7.5 mg QD)...  When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the
> proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to
> unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly)  His Tumor
> does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be
> pretty well controlled Just wish I knew specifically what is helping
> the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugscurrently he's on
> Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain,
> prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk,
> Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer
> scrutiny...  supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other "
> alternative " medications which I have suspended only because the poor
> boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something.
> with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a
> minimum
> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die
> don't and the ones that that aren't ..do
> Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as
> FeLV Kitties can do)...  Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain
> injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been
> insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... 
> Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy
> is enough to make you weep...  Guess that's part of why I am such a fan
> of animals they simply do what they have to and do it without
> complaint  ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if
> their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME??  I'm a more thoughtful
> caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a
> car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running
> around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you)...
> Bob
> Bob
>


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