Re: [Finale] Re: Horns staves

2004-02-25 Thread John Bell
At 12:19 PM -0600 2/23/04, Robert Patterson wrote: The best I can tell, the *only* reason the horn parts are ever routinely scored 1/3, 2/4 is due to misinformation in the Walter Piston orchestration book that was followed as gospel by a generation of composers and their students. Not me.

Re: [Finale] OT: Paypal in Europe

2004-02-25 Thread Javier Ruiz
Hola, Johannes. PayPal has been great for me since I am using it (three years I think). Very fast, easy to setup and accepted by the major plug-ins programmers of this list ;) I also have used Kagi without problems. Here in Spain the banks are offering now special credit cards for internet

Re: [Finale] How do I make Finale's interpretations go away?

2004-02-25 Thread David H. Bailey
In the Instrument List, if you click on the down triangle next to the instrument's name there are options to turn on/off each layer, Chords and Expressions. I think that was what David was referring to -- just click black box next to Expressions under the P column (for Play) and it should turn

Re: [Finale] OT: Paypal in Europe

2004-02-25 Thread Daniel Wolf
PayPal is not available in many countries, Hungary for example. Daniel Wolf Budapest Javier Ruiz wrote: Hola, Johannes. PayPal has been great for me since I am using it (three years I think). Very fast, easy to setup and accepted by the major plug-ins programmers of this list ;) I also have

Re: [Finale] OT: Paypal in Europe

2004-02-25 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Of all the replies I got on this I have not heard a single one which actually sells through paypal, ie uses their buy now and shopping basket services. Has anyone got experiences in this field, or knows an alternative that works in Europe? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns staves

2004-02-25 Thread Robert Patterson
Erm. I don't mean to be insulting or facetious, but have you actually *looked* at the horn staves of any 19th century scores? Everything I've stated on this subject is based neither on books nor assumptions. It is based on studying (esp.) 19th cent. scores. If you go back to when natural horns

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns staves

2004-02-25 Thread Robert Patterson
John Bell: I do the 1/3, 2/4 thing because... I hope I made it clear that I agree there are many contexts where this makes sense. Personally I happen to think for homophonic chordal passages, it makes more sense to interlock the parts (i.e. 1/2, 3/4 staves), if for no other reason than to

RE: [Finale] context sensitive accidentals

2004-02-25 Thread Fisher, Allen
You can get finale to do this. Options--Enharmonic spelling--Use Default Spelling. I just did a scale and I had sharps on the way up and flats on the way down. HTH, Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MDM Sent: Tuesday, February 24,

RE: [Finale] Spacing of hidden notes

2004-02-25 Thread Fisher, Allen
I guess I miss what you're after. If I enter a whole note in layer 1, and fill layer 2 in the same measure with hidden 16ths, the hidden 16th notes. With Affects Music Spacing checked for layer 2, the 16th notes have an effect on the spacing (no matter what kind of spacing I use). If I uncheck

Re: [Finale] OT: Paypal in Europe

2004-02-25 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:13 PM 2/25/04 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Of all the replies I got on this I have not heard a single one which actually sells through paypal, ie uses their buy now and shopping basket services. I didn't reply to the Europe question, but I sell using both of these. Don't sell much,

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns staves

2004-02-25 Thread Robert Patterson
First of all, in this discussion I'm speaking only of how the parts are presented on the page. The topic of who plays higher than whom is huge and complicated and an entirely separate issue. The short of it is, no rigid standard should be applied to the horns or any other section of the

Re: [Finale] OT: Paypal in Europe

2004-02-25 Thread Robert Patterson
I must have missed the thrust of this thread. I use the shopping basket function of Paypal. It works exactly like the Buy Now button, from the perspective of the seller. I've never had an international transaction using the shopping cart, but I've had many using Buy Now. No problems. Paypal

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns staves

2004-02-25 Thread John Howell
Mea culpa! I agree. I think I was looking through the wrong end of the telescope! I meant to say what you said. And yes, I've looked at--and played from--lots of 19th century horn scores, especially in the Farkas orchestral excerpts book. John At 3:31 PM + 2/25/04, Robert Patterson

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns staves

2004-02-25 Thread John Howell
At 3:48 PM + 2/25/04, Robert Patterson wrote: The second is, under no circumstances supply parts that double up with 1/3 on a part and 2/4 on a part. Doing so gains you instant disrespect from the horn section. And you risk losing your 2nd and 3rd parts entirely, depending on the amount of

[Finale] RE: Spacing of hidden notes

2004-02-25 Thread Ole Buck
From: Fisher, Allen I guess I miss what you're after. If I enter a whole note in layer 1, and fill layer 2 in the same measure with hidden 16ths, the hidden 16th notes. With Affects Music Spacing checked for layer 2, the 16th notes have an effect on the spacing (no matter what kind of spacing I

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns staves

2004-02-25 Thread John Howell
Tim Cates: what I was taught in an orchestration class was that the interlocked parts had more to do with the physics of having the close harmony in the player sitting next to you There's something to that. In fact, Berlioz recommended (speaking of valveless horns, of course) that the players

[Finale] The Fallacy of Human Playback (was: How do I make Finale's interpretations go away?)

2004-02-25 Thread Keef
Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:04:49 -0500 From: "David W. Fenton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] How do I make Finale's interpretations go away? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On 24 Feb 2004 at 1:21, Michael

[Finale] error

2004-02-25 Thread Bob Florence
I'm trying to open an old file. it is a full score. I keep getting this message. While attempting to open a file file manager reported an error Finale-error occurred ID=-8 This file was done in June of 1997 on a Mac G3. I have all of the parts, but this score won't open. Any ideas? Thanks: Bob

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns staves

2004-02-25 Thread Raymond Horton
Tim Cates: what I was taught in an orchestration class was that the interlocked parts had more to do with the physics of having the close harmony in the player sitting next to you There's something to that. In fact, Berlioz recommended (speaking of valveless horns, of course) that