Re: [Finale] Trombone grace note interpretation

2004-04-20 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
I'm wondering if there are any trombone players/experts out here. My question is, how would a trombonist generally interpret a grace note with a slur onto another note about a 2nd lower (in a 20th century score)?: a. Would they soft-tongue the second note? I certainly would, in a non-jazz

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2004b sys 9 -- horrible

2004-04-20 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 2:15 PM -0700 4/20/04, Philip Aker wrote: I think it best if the OS 9 version was dropped. In fact, it might have been cheaper for Coda to buy the 2 users still running it new G5s rather than pay the engineers for the several months of effort put into it. Philip Aker Hmm, one would be me.

Re: [Finale] More about blank notation

2004-04-20 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
The point may be moot, since the 2004 disks for OS9 have allegedly begun shipping...but here's the issue anyway: I frequently want to put chord symbols (indicating harmony changes) over held notes--e.g., a whole note is held, but on beat 3 a suspension resolves (or, heck, we just go from one chord

Re: [Finale] Automatically Numbered Rehearsal Numbers

2004-04-12 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:39 AM -0400 4/12/04, David W. Fenton wrote: On 11 Apr 2004 at 22:22, Giz Bowe wrote: In the measure number box, go to Style, where you can define a measuring number system. Add a region (so region 1 will number measures conventionally). Experiment with the base numbering system. How do

Re: [Finale] Asymmetric time signatures

2004-04-12 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:30 PM -0700 4/12/04, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 4/12/04 3:06 PM, Owain Sutton wrote: My preference, from a performer's perspective, would be to have the whole thing in 20/8, and use dotted barlines to show the irregular subdivisions. I have two different suggestions: 1. Like Owain suggested,

Re: [Finale] Disappearing chord symbols

2004-04-09 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 9:55 AM -0500 4/09/04, Joel Sears wrote: Hi fellow listers, Please help. On FinMac 2004, my chord symbols disappear when I place them over rhythmic slash notation. The OLM talks about the Alternate Notation window. I think this has worked for me in the past. Show Items Attached to Notes box

Re: [Finale] Disappearing chord symbols

2004-04-09 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:49 AM -0500 4/09/04, Joel Sears wrote: Christopher, Yes, I do mean stemmed slashes and I'm pretty sure that I was in the Define Staff Styles window. I just compared it to my FinMac 2001 at work and the window seemed to be the same, only in 2k1 it works as advertised and in 2k4 it

Re: [Finale] Conventional Metronome Mark

2004-04-08 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 4:45 PM +0200 4/08/04, Giovanni Andreani wrote: Thank you David, and all who answered to my question. I didn't get to explain myself correctly. Her's how it stands: I've got, lets say, a 16 bars melody in 3/8 and a metronome value as: sixteenth = 120. I want to display the metronome's pulse

Re: [Finale] Dash Line on Hook Length

2004-04-07 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
Hello Is there any way I can have a dashed hook length (the one normally used after the 8va/8vb dashed line)? Finale seems to provide and edit only a non-dashed hook, while one can edit the dashed horizontal line, in the Smart Shape Options dialog box. Thank you Giovanni You are right that you

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius in this month's Keyboard Magazine

2004-04-03 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 9:27 PM -0500 4/01/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: For those who actually have the issue -- what's the cover date? I looked in the Brooklyn Barnes and Noble today, and they have the April issue, which didn't have the Finale vs. Sibelius. Did I miss it already, or are BN an issue behind? -

Re: [Finale] Time Signature question

2004-04-03 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 10:42 AM -0800 4/01/04, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On 4/1/04 9:48 AM, Ken Parsons wrote: How do you enter two time signatures for a piece that oscillates back and forth between them - e.g. 3/4 6/8? I'd like to enter these in the first measure, and not have to put them in every time the grouping

Re: [Finale] Help with scripting

2004-04-01 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:06 PM +1000 4/01/04, Paul Copeland wrote: Hello. I hope someone will be kind enough to help me with scripting please. Thank you. I have about 30 midi files that I want to notate. I also have a file template that I want to use. Is it possible to 1. Load each midi file in to Finale. 2. Copy

Re: [Finale] Sibelius survey

2004-03-31 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 03:29:03 -0500 From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ha! Someone else up as late as I am. So what's YOUR excuse? 8-) Christopher ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Sibelius survey

2004-03-31 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
This kind of NDA (non-disclosure agreement) is very common ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Another Music Spacing Issue

2004-03-26 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
I ran into the same bug in FinMac 2003, and reported it, and apparently it is a problem with the way the feature was implemented, to be corrected in later versions (I haven't checked in 2004, as I rarely use OSX these days.) The way around it is to enter the passage with the dots and the

Re: [Finale] help with cross-staff percussion notation (v.2003)

2004-03-25 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 8:52 PM -0500 3/24/04, Ed Klinger wrote: Christopher, Thanks very much for the reply. It's very effective, at least for notating. What I'm running into, though, is that the notes I want to hear aren't being played back- when I 'pull' the notes into their new staff, they are always 'dropped'

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius in this month's Keyboard Magazine

2004-03-25 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:19 AM -0500 3/25/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: I should mention that I found out about this issue of Keyboard from composer (and Village Voice new music critic) Kyle Gann, who has some thoughts on his blog about Sibelius (his music notation software of choice) and about the influence of

Re: [Finale] Kyle Gann's Articles on Sibelius

2004-03-25 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:04 PM -0500 3/25/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 25 Mar 2004, at 02:55 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: (replying to a message that he himself wrote! Ever get the feeling that you're just talking to yourself? 8-) Christopher ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Finale vs. Sibelius in this month's Keyboard Magazine

2004-03-24 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 5:36 PM -0500 3/24/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: http://www.keyboardmag.com/ (sadly, the article is not available online) Anyone read this? - Darcy Yep! What did you think? As someone who has used both, you should be in a good position to critique the review. Some quotes: Sibelius is a

Re: [Finale] help with cross-staff percussion notation (v.2003)

2004-03-24 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 7:06 PM -0500 3/24/04, Ed Klinger wrote: Hello all. I am trying to notate a percussion duo where each player plays several instruments. Certain figures played 'across' two (or more) instruments would be best notated by cross-staff beaming, e.g. playing a two-handed figure with each hand on a

Re: [Finale] Arrow fonts

2004-03-20 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
Title: Re: [Finale] Arrow fonts Hi, Would anyone know of a font that would have vertical filled in arrows with a short stem on them? I am using win98 and Finale 2004. Any help would surely be appreciated. George Ports There are four arrows in the font that was installed with Word Perfect,

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-17 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 12:19 AM -0800 3/17/04, Mark D Lew wrote: I too find it odd that someone never zooms larger than 100%. I usually do speedy entry at 100% in scroll view. Almost everything else I do at 200%, or sometimes 150%. mdl I thought I was odd before (or had an old monitor) but I see I'm not

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-17 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 5:10 PM -0500 3/16/04, Phil Daley wrote: At 3/16/2004 01:57 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I can't image what possible purpose there would be in maximizing a scroll view. Whole width, obviously, but maximized would have at least 50% of the screen blank below the scroll view. But so what?

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-17 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 7:51 PM -0500 3/16/04, David W. Fenton wrote: Why should blank notation be used in spacing? So that chord symbols attached to blank items can be taken into account for spacing. So that hidden items could add extra space without appearing, to make room for things that you need to add as

Re: [Finale] Getting a barline at the start of ech line

2004-03-17 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
On Tuesday, March 16, 2004, at 11:34 PM, Klaas de Jong wrote: The point is that for Finale there's only one barline: the one to the right. Only the first measure in a system has a 'left' barline also. I think this may be the cause of some confusion. Speaking of which, I've never understood the

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-17 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 2:17 PM -0500 3/17/04, David W. Fenton wrote: On 17 Mar 2004 at 9:35, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: At 7:51 PM -0500 3/16/04, David W. Fenton wrote: Why should blank notation be used in spacing? So that chord symbols attached to blank items can be taken into account for spacing. So

Re: [Finale] Double sharps, douible flats

2004-03-08 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 7:22 AM -0500 3/08/04, Crystal Premo wrote: Am I correct in my assumption that the double sharps and flats which frequently appear when you transpose a piece are actually the *correct pitches*? However awkward they may be, and however appropriate it may be to simplify them through editing

Re: [Finale] Re: F2003a won't print to acrobat

2004-03-07 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 9:19 AM +0100 3/07/04, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 07.03.2004 2:19 Uhr, Christopher BJ Smith wrote This is a routine I got from this list (I think it was Johannes Gebauer, thanks loads, man!) Not me, I don't have Acrobat... Johannes Dang. Well, whoever you were who gave me that help

Re: [Finale] non-rhythmic pitch entry???

2004-03-07 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 1:36 PM -0800 3/07/04, MDM wrote: Hi all. I want to create some examples for my jazz students, and I need to enter pitches into a measure without regard to rhythm. In other works, whole note, whole note, quarter note head, whole note, etc. The note heads would be graphic elements only. Is

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-03-06 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 9:06 AM +0100 3/06/04, Mario Aschauer wrote: Mark Wrote: I was assuming that Mario learned English as a second language, so I wondered if some outdated source was inadvertently teaching archaic plural forms which are no longer idiomatic. In fact, I did learn English as a second language.

[Finale] Re: F2003a won't print to acrobat

2004-03-06 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:08 PM -0700 3/06/04, jef chippewa wrote: i haven't solved the problem yet, but have narrowed the scope down a bit. macfin2k3a printing to acrobat v.5, G4/400 OS 9.2.2/384 RAM, finale accorded 75M. jef, This is a routine I got from this list (I think it was Johannes Gebauer, thanks

Re: [Finale] Translation about Snare drum

2004-03-06 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
That would be on the shell, to use the percussion-specific term. Christopher At 5:11 PM -0800 3/06/04, Ryan Beard wrote: Pierre, I think le fšt literally means the barrel. So I take it to mean play on the side of the instrument. Ryan === Hi all, Do you know the right

Re: [Finale] It's official...

2004-03-02 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 10:39 PM -0500 3/01/04, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: ...as of this afternoon, so I can announce it. I'm very pleased to tell my Finale friends that I have received the annual commission from the Vermont Symphony Orchestra. The new work will be premiered on September 22, My birthday! and

Re: [Finale] Microtonal accidental size.

2004-02-29 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
Title: Re: [Finale] Microtonal accidental size. At 3:37 PM +0100 2/29/04, Bettina Crimmins wrote: Does anyone know how to change the font size of eighth-tone accidentals? I have set up the score using non-standard key signature to allow 8 steps per whole-tone and allocated the symbols I wish to

Re: [Finale] Microtonal accidental size.

2004-02-29 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:57 PM -0500 2/29/04, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 03:40 PM 2/29/2004, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: You can adjust individual accidentals' size one at a time with the Special Tool's Accidental Mover.  This looks a little bit like a bug. You can select multiple accidentals within a measure by click

Re: [Finale] Anti-spam white list nonsense.

2004-02-28 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 9:03 AM +1100 2/29/04, Michael Edwards wrote: Well, would there be any future in asking Henry to do something about it? And maybe to bar posting from non-members? Most lists I'm on require you to be a member in order to post messages. However, Henry seems to want to leave things exactly

Re: [Finale] Re: Horns and signatures

2004-02-27 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 2:22 PM -0500 2/27/04, John Howell wrote: What about new shows? Are they finally getting away from hand copy and producing computer-engraved parts? Yes! Many are, and strangely, they have enabled in Finale that weird hold-over from hand-copying of only showing keys on the first system of

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 12:07 PM -0500 2/27/04, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Speaking of the Polansky, I need an 'approximate equals' sign in one of the music fonts (the curved equal sign) to add before dynamic markings. Anybody seen one? In Avant Garde font on my Mac under Opt-x I have that symbol. Hope that helps.

Re: [Finale] [OT] Re: Horns and intonation

2004-02-24 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 9:49 AM +0200 2/24/04, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: The narrow, cookie-cutter rim on a horn mouthpiece doesn't help with reliability, either. What would happen if you put a trumpet mouthpiece on a horn? Obviously it would be worse, but in what way, since you say the present horn mouthpiece

Re: [Finale] Hyphen under rest?

2004-02-22 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 1:23 PM -0800 2/22/04, Mark D Lew wrote: Hyphens continuing under the rest is correct. I wouldn't call it rare. I've even seen it in pop music. mdl Rocky Horror Picture Show, opening number, lyric at one point is antici- bar or so rest pation! Very effective.

Re: [Finale] 1st and 2nd Endings -- Automatic Dots after the numbers,

2004-02-15 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 12:40 PM +0100 2/15/04, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Thing is, as far as I can tell, none of this is a bug, it is by design. And it works more or less. The one thing I would really like to see changed with repeat brackets is a system similar to staff lists in Expressions, whereby I can define a

Re: [Finale] Measure number Plug in request

2004-02-15 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 7:40 PM -0500 2/15/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: Actually, we just had this discussion with Bob Florence. Though I'm sure Robert's plugin makes this easier, I question the wisdom of having two sets of measure numbers for repeated sections in the first place. I know this is an old manuscript

Re: [Finale] Phantom Word Extension

2004-02-15 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 5:30 PM -0500 2/15/04, Marc Shepherd wrote: I'm using Finale 2004's automatic word extensions. The file I'm editing was created using an earlier release of Finale, but I've upgraded the file and saved it in F2004 format. The problem is that a phantom word extension is appearing--a word

Re: [Finale] Avoiding Articulation Collisions

2004-02-12 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 7:36 PM -0500 2/12/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 12 Feb 2004, at 07:23 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Of course, it doesn't help me with the bowings I've already put in. Sorry, no. If there are more colliding upbows and downbows than not, you might want to swap the modified bow markings for

Re: [Finale] lyric and chord spacing

2004-02-11 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:23 PM -0600 2/10/04, Don Hart wrote: Thanks, Mark and Christopher. You guys and a few notable others always seem to take the time to help out even (maybe especially) when Finale is having a little trouble holding up its end of the bargain. Well, I'm not in engraving for publication very

Re: [Finale] lyric and chord spacing

2004-02-10 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
You were pretty clear. I have the same darned problems. For the chords, I generally turn off taking chords into account when music spacing, and only turn it on to respace passages where there is a chord on every entry. Or I increase the measure size for that measure only, or manually respace.

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2004-02-09 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:11 AM -0500 2/09/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: There's still all of Sibelius's blatant claims along the lines of Finale can't do this, or Sibelius is the *only* music notation program that does that. There are a couple of unique features that caught my eye when I saw the Sibelius 2 demo

Re: [Finale] Triplet question

2004-02-09 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 8:06 AM -0500 2/09/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: Okay, In 4/4, one normally shows beat 3 of a measure when it contains eighth note values or smaller. However, I've run into a situation where my source has the following rhythm: quarter rest - eighth rest - a triplet consisting of: two eighth

RE: [Finale] Re: November Font

2004-02-08 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 4:05 PM -0500 2/07/04, Williams, Jim wrote: Interesting...Mr. Piechaud is also the designer of Human Playback. Jim And his name means hot magpie in French, like the bird, though the word is often used to denote someone who talks too much. 8-) ___

Re: [Finale] Re: November Font

2004-02-08 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
- From: Christopher BJ Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Williams, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rob Deemer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 3:55 PM Subject: RE: [Finale] Re: November Font At 4:05 PM -0500 2/07/04, Williams, Jim wrote: Interesting...Mr. Piechaud is also

Re: [Finale] Lyrics in Sibelius (Was: 2k5 features (was Expression Metatools))

2004-02-08 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
on 2/8/04 10:17 AM, William Roberts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and having to rely on e.g. plug-ins for word extensions etc. has meant that I'd rather use Sib than Finale. FYI, word extensions are automatic starting in Fin2004. ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] Problem with chord symbols using Jazz font

2004-02-04 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
Title: Re: [Finale] Problem with chord symbols using Jazz fon At 3:45 PM -0500 2/04/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no trouble using the chord tool with the Maestro font, but when I use the Jazz font I have a problem with minor seven flat five chords. Normally I use a lower case B for the

Re: [Finale] New Discovery with Articulations

2004-02-02 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 2:56 PM -0500 2/02/04, David W. Fenton wrote: Maybe everyone else already knew this, but I just discovered that with the articulation tool you can click-drag to enclose a group of notes and apply an articulation to the group. It also works with metatools (e.g., hold the S key and click drag a

Re: [Finale] Tubas and 8vb

2004-01-22 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:20 AM + 1/22/04, Colin Broom wrote: If one has a very low register part for tuba, using the lowest notes, does anyone know whether tubists generally prefer to read leger lines or an 8ve symbol? I'm guessing an 8ve symbol is better, but I know some instrumentalists prefer to read leger

Re: [Finale] Finale for Mac OSX delivered

2004-01-19 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 9:26 AM -0600 1/19/04, tim-cates wrote: when did you pre-order? just curious TC Right on the first day the announcement was made, back in the summer, I think. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] Finale for Mac OSX delivered

2004-01-19 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 10:19 AM -0500 1/19/04, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: Got my FinMac2004 just now by UPS, free shipping as promised, though I had to pay Canadian sales tax to the UPS guy. OK, first look. Installation went without a hitch. I registered right away by internet, no problem. I had to look up my

Re: [Finale] Changing Font within Smart Shape Palette

2004-01-17 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 5:50 PM +0100 1/17/04, Giovanni Andreani wrote: Hello I hope someone can help me with this: I'm transcribing music for solo piano and would like to change the font of the 8va/8vb tool within the Smart Shape palette (the one octave higher symbol is the one I intend to use). Is there any way to

Re: [Finale] Different Lyrics for different layers...

2004-01-16 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 12:42 AM + 1/16/04, John Bell wrote: At 6:52 pm -0500 15.01.2004, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: The right-most one is stupid (meaning I'm stupid because I can't figure out a use for it.) It's for lyrics you haven't yet entered. I guess I'm still stupid, because I can't figure out how I'm

Re: [Finale] Different Lyrics for different layers...

2004-01-15 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 7:06 PM -0400 1/15/04, Taris L Flashpaw wrote: I don't know if this has been discussed here before, but I was wondering if there was a way to attach different lyrics to different layers of a single staff. For example, I'm working on a choral piece right now and the sopranos divide in two for

Re: [Finale] Finale class

2004-01-14 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 4:09 PM + 1/14/04, Javier Ruiz wrote: Am I the only one who has received this? Dear Macintosh Customer, We are happy to report that the Finale Macintosh OS X disc has completed our rigorous testing cycle with flying colors and is currently in production. We have made arrangements to

Re: [Finale] Reducing the size of time signatures, clefs, accidentals?

2004-01-12 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:01 AM -0600 1/12/04, Richard Huggins wrote: George, go Options Select Default Fonts Notation and after that item-by-item select Clef, Time Signature and whatever else you want smaller. For each one, click the Set Font button and change the size for the selected element from its default of

Re: [Finale] Reducing the size of time signatures, clefs, accidentals?

2004-01-12 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 1:25 PM -0800 1/12/04, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Monday, January 12, 2004, at 11:40 AM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: That changes EVERY instance of that item. What if you only want some items smaller or larger? Particularly, I have been looking for a way to have the parenthesized sharp, flat

Re: [Finale] Reducing the size of time signatures, clefs, accidentals?

2004-01-12 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 2:02 PM -0800 1/12/04, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Monday, January 12, 2004, at 01:41 PM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: At 1:25 PM -0800 1/12/04, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Monday, January 12, 2004, at 11:40 AM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: That changes EVERY instance of that item. What if you only

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-09 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
it would make trumpet playing a lot more complicated. Same for saxes, clarinets, Oboe/English Horn, and all the transposing instruments. Christopher BJ Smith wrote: At 5:43 PM -0500 1/08/04, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: That's why I said this was a religious debate. There ultimately

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-09 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 9:23 AM -0500 1/09/04, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 08:47 AM 1/9/2004, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: But that doesn't explain why the open note on the standard band instrument is written C, but sounds Bb. Why not change it so that all trumpet players read Bb and play Bb, on the usual instrument

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-09 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 10:46 AM -0500 1/09/04, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 10:02 AM 1/9/2004, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: Your last sentence illustrates my point. Why do trombones (and tubas) get off easily, while trumpets have to transpose? What? First of all, from the player's point of view, it's the trumpets who get

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-08 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:54 PM -0500 1/08/04, John.Howell wrote: Christopher wrote: Well, the problem with octave clefs is that those instruments DON'T read in those clefs, they read in regular treble and bass clef, and use of an octave clef for say, double bass, (or even worse, guitar or glock, for which parts

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-08 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 5:43 PM -0500 1/08/04, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: That's why I said this was a religious debate. There ultimately are no compelling arguments on either side. It's the same answer I give to my students when they ask why trumpets transpose. It's not because it's easier to read (like alto clef

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-08 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 8:56 PM -0500 1/08/04, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: I've heard lots of preferences expressed on this list from composers and conductors, but no horror stories. Has anyone actually encountered an in-the-flesh, contemporary objection to one or the other that resulted in a refused or aborted

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-07 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:04 PM -0500 1/06/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: Chris Smith: Well, the problem with octave clefs is that those instruments DON'T read in those clefs, Well, sure, but a bari sax or bass clarinet doesn't (normally) read in bass clef, either. Those clefs don't go on the *parts*, they go on

Re: [Finale] Explode!

2004-01-07 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:48 AM -0800 1/07/04, Philip Aker wrote: Well, I'm just talking about the essential parts of a composition, not the orchestration. And in that, I certainly agree with you. My name with my students for what you are calling parts is gesture. I think I got that from one of my 20th century

Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score

2004-01-07 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 10:45 AM -0500 1/07/04, dumusic wrote: I generally find C Scores very difficult to use. I have never met a conductor who didn't prefer transposed scores. I'm not saying there aren't any, I just haven't met them. Christopher ___ Finale mailing

RE: [Finale] Still having trouble with chord spacing

2004-01-06 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
Title: RE: [Finale] Still having trouble with chord spacing Or in Speedy Entry (with automatic music spacing turned off) just drag the note to the left or right (or up or down, but you don't want to do that this time!) Or in the Measure tool, click the lower handle of the right-hand barline.

Re: [Finale] Explode!

2004-01-06 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
got. (words of one my composition teachers.) Sorry to get off the topic of classical music, but as I get older, I see more and more similarity and less and less difference between the various idioms. Christopher On Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003, at 12:15 US/Pacific, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: I

[Finale] to Hal Owen

2004-01-06 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
To Hal Owen, Hal, I tried to reply to your private message, but your server rejected my email. Heavy duty spam filters, most likely. Any suggestions as to how I can email you without the filters cutting in? Christopher ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Finale] Translation

2004-01-05 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:26 PM +0100 1/05/04, Pierre Bailleul wrote: Hi all, I'm working on a pedagogical book about drums, and I like to ask you some translations of french words : Conseil = advice? Right Exercices = Exercises? Right Etude = Study? If you are talking about a musical piece written to practice a

Re: [Finale] Translation

2004-01-05 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 6:44 PM +0100 1/05/04, Pierre Bailleul wrote: Dear Christopher PB Petite tournerie = ? CB I have never heard this expression, and I can't find it in my Petit Robert or any of my music books. Could it mean a flam, ruff, drag, or 5-stroke roll? Or does it refer to the Hawaii Five-O which is a

Re: [Finale] Explode!

2003-12-31 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 9:54 AM -0800 12/31/03, Philip Aker wrote: On Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003, at 06:25 US/Pacific, David H. Bailey wrote: But the complaint about Finale's explode function not copying unison sections to all exploded parts... While I do agree with folks who think that a part-savvy Explode should be

Re: [Finale] Explode!

2003-12-30 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 8:13 PM -0600 12/30/03, Randolph Peters wrote: Well, you can wait for MakeMusic to add features and fix bugs which may never happen, or you can get a very responsive turnaround with Robert and Tobias. I've emailed them both about small bugs in their plugins in the past and have gotten fixes

Re: [Finale] Explode!

2003-12-30 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 1:03 PM +1100 12/30/03, helgesen wrote: Situation- 1st and 2nd flute parts, lots of unison and some complex divisi. Therefore done as seperate parts, flute 1 and flute 2. Explode music does the divisi fine, but only puts unison line in top part. I Have looked at dialogue box carefully, but can

Re: [Finale] Merged syllable question

2003-12-20 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 1:20 PM -0800 12/19/03, Philip Aker wrote: On Friday, December 19, 2003, at 12:28 PM, Weldon Whipple wrote: The turning point for me was when I travelled from Minnesota (where I lived at the time) to Toronto. Trawna! But try Gander Newfoundland (and points north), for an ear opener on

Re: [Finale] Merged syllable question

2003-12-19 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:11 PM -0800 12/18/03, Mark D Lew wrote: On Thursday, December 18, 2003, at 01:46 PM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: Hmm, I and my immediate family pronounce obliterate and oligarchy with long o sounds, and onerous with a short o. So much for generalisations with regional pronounciations

Re: [Finale] Merged syllable question

2003-12-18 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 12:18 PM -0600 12/18/03, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: A review of my dictionary shows that all of the multi words which begin with a long O, including among others, obey, open, over, onerous, and Otolaryngologyst, seem to have the long 'o' as a separate syllable, and those where the o is short,

Re: [Finale] Merged syllable question and Printer

2003-12-18 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
Title: Re: [Finale] Merged syllable question and Printer At 1:58 PM -0500 12/18/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 18/12/2003 18:53:50 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: know that Glo-ster (Glouchestershire) is in a song. Anyone know a song with Bal-muh (Baltimore) in it?

Re: [Finale] circular breathing expression

2003-12-04 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 6:26 PM -0500 12/03/03, Darcy James Argue wrote: I don't mean to pile on, but this struck me as odd as well. While I know a number of people who are able to circular breathe on woodwinds, my impression is that it is considerably more difficult to do on brass instruments, especially trumpet.

Re: [Finale] Combining staves

2003-12-04 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
Title: Re: [Finale] Combining staves At 8:22 AM -0500 12/04/03, Aaron Sherber wrote: Hi all, I've got two trumpet staves which I'm combining into one Tpt 1/2 staff. When the two parts are written in such a way that what I want is layer 1/layer 2, the process of moving things around is very

Re: [Finale] Group Names

2003-12-04 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:22 AM -0500 12/04/03, Phil Lehman wrote: I was working on a project this week and I wanted to remove the group staff names from the score for printing. Document set up with setup wizard. Finale 2003 - Mac. Problem when I unchecked display group name it only did it for the first system. I

Re: [Finale] circular breathing expression

2003-12-04 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 1:35 PM -0500 12/04/03, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hmm... I always expected that circular breathing would be easier on a digeridoo -- maybe because the bore is so much wider than a brass mouthpiece? Anyway, my friend Josh Sinton, a great multi-woodwind player, first learned to circular

[Finale] Re: Tuplet brackets in slurred passages - Darcy

2003-12-01 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 12:28 PM -0800 12/01/03, Chuck Israels wrote: Darcy wrote: [N.B. In jazz, bracketed triplets are always supposed to go above the staff, so I'm kind of constrained there. It would be convenient to put all the triplet brackets below the staff and all the slurs above, but jazz players aren't

Re: [Finale] Beaming eighth notes/quavers

2003-11-29 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:15 PM +0100 11/29/03, d. collins wrote: Thanks, Ole, for your reply. I remember reading somewhere, but can't find it, of course, that this beaming by four was only recommended if there were only 8th notes/quavers under the beam: if you have a dotted 8th and a 16th, for instance, you

RE: [Finale] tuplets

2003-11-26 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 1:36 AM + 11/26/03, Colin Broom wrote: -Original Message- The second (much better) way is to select the tuplet tool, click the first note, set the tuplet up the way I want it, and hit OK. I click next on the first note of the NEXT group, and the tuplet I had set up is now the

Re: [Finale] Ten/Bar/Bass?

2003-11-23 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:12 AM -0500 11/21/03, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi gang, Okay, so I'm faced with a movement of a piece for orchestra + chorus where only the men sing. The (highly unreliable) manuscript has the men divided three ways and calls them tenor, baritone, and bass -- but I'm not sure if that's

Re: [Finale] Ten/Bar/Bass?

2003-11-23 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 5:35 AM -0600 11/21/03, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Darcy wrote, The only oddity now is that the altos and tenors both have to share an 8vb treble clef placing tenors on an 8vb G clef did not used to be the norm; in the past, tenors were noted on a treble clef, in alto range, and transposed down

Re: [Finale] Finale to mp3 or wav

2003-11-23 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 7:20 AM -0500 11/23/03, David H. Bailey wrote: It's the old The razor's free but the blades cost money philosophy that made Gillette wealthy. You have to pay for the songs you download to listen to with iTunes, but iTunes itself is free. Eh? I have a ton of my own music I digitised

Re: [Finale] tuplets

2003-11-23 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
it did not work the way you said. After setting Caps Lock and doing Option-3, I hit the 3 key on the first note and...nothing. If I held it down, still nothing. The frame blipped each time but the cursor didn't advance and tuplets weren't created. So... I dunno! Richard From: Christopher BJ Smith

Re: [Finale] tuplets

2003-11-23 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 4:55 PM -0500 11/23/03, David H. Bailey wrote: You can't go back in speedy and tupletize notes which have already been entered. Yes you can, but it only works for ONE set of tuplets, then you have to reset it. Not a good solution for Charles. Open up the Speedy frame on a measure of

Re: [Finale] Midisport 2x2

2003-11-15 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
Title: Re: [Finale] Midisport 2x2 Keef, Thanks for the response, I've been trying to get info about this for quite a while. I have NO idea what I need to allow my system to run best when I am using MIDI. My printer is connected through Ethernet, so I need that. I need CD access. There are some

Re: [Finale] Tenor Clef for Cello

2003-11-08 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 5:12 PM -0500 11/08/03, David W. Fenton wrote: Is there any kind of rule of thumb for when to switch to tenor clef in a cello part? I'm used to writing for viola da gamba with switching between bass and alto clef, and I know by gut instinct where to switch there, but I'm not a cellist, so don't

Re: [Finale] OT: Transcribing Wind Music for Strings (bowing question)

2003-11-08 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 5:22 PM -0500 11/08/03, David W. Fenton wrote: I'm just finishing up a transcription of a Mozart Divertimento for winds and have simply carried over the phrasings (i.e., tonguings) from the original. These generally look like they'd end up as pretty good bowings. Comments? As to articulations,

Re: [Finale] FW: 2004 slowness problem

2003-11-05 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 6:05 PM -0600 11/04/03, Richard Huggins wrote: [...] As my files grow larger, the entire program bogs down and runs like molassas. I've got one other friend with the problem and I believe it's in the software. It is normal for Finale to run more slowly with a large score. I just haven't

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