James:
(off-topic)
Vaporware or maybe bad web design or maybe bad company practices? I'm
not sure. Summary: Don't order this product if you expect to get it
any time soon.
My first question would be how you paid for your order: if you offered a
credit card number, check to see if your
I wrote:
Listsibs: I am stumped; maybe you can help.
In Fin2K, running on Windows 2nd edition, I created a file of the
Parry's setting (tune: Jerusalem) of lyrics by William Blake. These
are three staff systems, but as of now, only the top (voice) staff has
any entries. Got
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is the problem-du-jour...I'm
trying to duplicate some French expression
marks such as the following :"sans hate"...my problem, is that if I don't
want
general laughter coming from the orchestra, I need a circumflex over the
'a' in "hate" so that it means haste.
I wrote, in part:
from which I can easily determine that circumflex-a is entered (in
Windows) as Alt-226.
to which Jon asked:
You get that symbol with just alt-226? Not alt-0226?
To clarify, it was indeed alt-0226, and in an earlier message, it should
have been alt-0160 and alt-0173,
Listsibs:
Up til now, I've not needed to make use of staff styles, but may be
about to do so for the first time. So, if I may:
I am using Fin2Kc to prepare a sonata for solo instrument and piano, and
in this sonata, at one point, the solo instrument will have a time
signature displayed, where
Thanks to those who answered my question...
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Crystal Premo wrote:
Just to quickly reiterate, I was asked to remove repeats from a piece I had
done for a composer and spread the verses out to eliminate the need to turn
back. I did it in scroll view by adding measures, copying the music into
them without the lyrics, cutting the second
Listsibs:
First, I have created several shapes as expression-shapes that upon
subsequent consideration, I have decided I would rather have as
articulation shapes. These shapes are sufficiently complicated, and
there are a sufficient number of them, that what I would like to do is
to save them
Ok. One question. After I wrote:
First, I have created several shapes as expression-shapes that upon
subsequent consideration, I have decided I would rather have as
articulation shapes.
I discovered that all the shapes appear to be stored in one master shape
table. I'm still curious
Mark D. Lew wrote:
Didn't we have this same argument a couple months ago about sordina/sordino?
I haven't tracked the etymology of cappella, but I assume this is another
case where Italian spelling was less uniform several centuries ago, and the
phrase was exported to other languages in a
In the print dialog box, about one third of the way up from the bottom, in the
center
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So - where is the 2-up option?
Brian
I've made sure the printer is specified when I click
print and that 2-up is specified. I part extract and click print. When
I
Fiskum, Steve wrote:
I wrote:
Does anyone have any information on the possible lawsuits filed against
Net4Music or MakeMusic! Inc.?
Jari wrote:
Lawsuits regarding what?
Me:
I was given some 2nd hand information from a very influential publisher that
there
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Is there a way to copy a textblock from one page to another?
I don't know of a way to copy it, that is, to create a second instance
of the block on a different page while leaving it on the first, but it
is trivial to move one from one page to another: Select the text
Mark D. Lew wrote:
At 11:59 AM 06/28/02, Doug Auwarter wrote:
I've had the same problems with Zip disks. Anyone else?
I've been using Zip disks for years and never had any problem.
I do recall once being told that you should always use a Zip drive standing
up the tall way on its side,
Crystal Premo wrote:
Over time the disks become corrupted, the computer almost
always freezes when I eject a disk, and it was even causing printing
problems.
I had an external Iomega zip drive on my Windows machine for awhile, and
experienced many problems such as freezing, gpf's, slow
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
I am drafting a wish list to be send to Coda very soon. Perhaps some of you
will have additions?
My nominations:
1) More flexibility for the File info box: I'd like to be able to define
more fields in this dialogue, with the flexibility to be able to name the
In my wish list, I wrote, in part:
6) Lyric tool: At present, editing lyrics in the edit lyric box can, under
some circumstances, cause lyrics to wrap from one line to another, while making
the same changes in the type into score mode does not. I'd like to see the
edit lyrics adjusted to
An addition to my earlier wish list suggestions:
The ability to edit the text-box attributes of an arbitrary text box.. At present,
it is possible in Finale to lose a text box, by shifting it out of the bounds of a
page. If you find that you have done this in a current session, one can undo
rhythm, [CR][LF] but not too fast
and if I enable CR/LF implementation, it appears in the score as
In strict rhythm,
but not too fast.
and if I don't enable the implementation, it appears as
In strict rhythm, but not too fast.
ns
Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
An addition to my earlier wish list
David W. Fenton wrote:
What the hell am I going to do here?
Open a blank email message, describe the problem, attach a copy of the file
(and ask support to fix and return it) and send it to Coda as a bug
report
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Susan Lackman wrote:
This is probably a duh questions, but -
I wrote something for wind ensemble, and the score features very small
staves. There's a lot of space at the top and bottom of an 8-1/2 x 11
sheet, but I don't know how to spread the score out.
I'd 1) Select the resize tool
Crystal Premo wrote:
I received this notification in excess of fifty times today. It is nothing
but the original post I put up about why my articulations have been flying
about. I have received one real reply to it, and I don't understand what
all the rest of them are about. Any ideas?
Robert Patterson wrote:
On Thu, 19 September 2002, Dennis W. Manasco wrote:
A database that allows itself to be
irretrievably corrupted through reasonable user actions is a pretty
fragile database.
I agree with this statement, but I do not agree that Finale's lyrics
implementation
Barbara Touburg wrote:
Dear List,
Suddenly I found an extra repeat, which I cannot get rid of.
Help!
I'm guessing that somehow, you have the Bass Tuba 1 staff defined in two
groups, one of which is that staff all by itself.
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David W. Fenton wrote:
Am I right in guessing that, when using TYPE IN SCORE, the EDIT
LYRICS window is populated in the order in which you enter the
lyrics, rather than in any logical order related to the score layout?
That is, if the first thing you enter typing into the score is the
David W. Fenton wrote, in part:
The system is designed around an assumption that the default and most
desirable method for lyrics entry is to enter the words used one
time, and then assign them all multiple times.
I'm not sure that that is the default assumption; I'd rather suspect that
I wrote, in part:
Now, undo will correct the lyric displacement that occurs in steps 6 and
10, but I
submit that since lyric displacement does not happen on type into score,
it should
not happen after edit lyric, either. The results of inserting or deleting
syllables in both modes
If anyone is aware of the existence of a newsgroup or email list devoted
to engraving issues that transcend platform specific issues, I'd be
interested in knowing about it. Rather than how do I do something in
some version of Finale, this would be a list which is addressing issues
like in
Harold Owen wrote, in part:
For one thing, the size of the words in the Edit Box is very small and
hard for me to read.
but, at least since FIN 2k, easily made larger by selecting the text in
the window, and using a larger point size. I admit that among the
changes I'd like to see in the
d. collins wrote:
I have a word extension that should cross a system break (half note tied to
another half note on next system itself tied to a dotted quarter note).
When I add the word extensions, either with the Finale plug-in or with
TGtools, it extends in the margin over 1 cm, and
I should have been more precise. Where I wrote
snip
If one deletes the same syllables in "edit
lyrics" mode, OTH, all of
the syllables in the balance of the string visible in the "edit lyrics"
window
get shifted to the left two places, even when this takes the first
syllable of
one staff and
perhaps through a plug-in, to any notation element (expression, shape,
articulation, lyric syllable, c,) and identify all of the places from
which it is linked to. I designed a custom notation element, and may
need to go back and change selected instances to something different
Or has this
For What It's Worth Department: Last Wednesday afternoon (18:20 CDT, the
same time zone Coda is in) I posted to this list a message in which I
wrote:
The lengthy thread about freaking lyrics leads me to make an nomination
for the biggest shortcoming (bar NONE) of Finale:
THE DOCUMENTATION!
Listsibs:
Perhaps it may be useful for some if I share the techniques by which I
have decided to manage my FIN libraries:
First, I have decided to create all library items in the earliest
version of Finale that I own. I can always, and easily import them
forward, importing them backwards, if
Michael Edwards wrote:
Although it will be some time before I get Finale (for a variety of
reasons), I am still interested in purchasing it. Someone mentioned NotePad
2002 on the list recently, and I see that it is available free from the Coda
Music web site; and I'm just wondering
David H. Bailey wrote:
While your suggestions of mini-libraries is a good one, I am not really
clear about why you would want to create them in the earliest version
you own. Have you run into problems with backward compatibility with
libraries?
The fact that there are a couple of
DR.SOLOMON .B. AZEEZ wrote:
snip
REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE- STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
Earlier in this week, I came across one of those jokes that circulate on the internet.
This one, which [at least] some of you probably have seen, bears the subject line,
You know you're living in 2002 when,
Michael wrote:
Well, I suppose it would depend on just what the limitations of NotePad
are.
Your statement does seem to beg the question of whether you've consulted the Coda
website, especially the pages www.codamusic.com/coda/np.asp,
www.codamusic.com/coda/np_features.asp, and
Listsibs:
No not a typo, but rather, quite by another accident, I discovered that
you can _exactly_ superimpose one staff on another, and both seem to
print just the way you had them.
Now, I do realize some of the inherent limitations in the approach: for
example, among other considerations,
Crystal Premo wrote:
I sent a post to the list late last night and, for the second time in a row,
did not see it in the morning. Plus, I received perhaps one post today,
unusual for this list.
Are you all receiving the list?
For some reason, when I use reply to sender, the composition
In response to the following comments previously written in the thread,
There were numerous
non-European contributors to that tradition--some of them of great
merit--before 1650.
Such as?
Andrew wrote a reply mentioning Gutierre Fernández Hidalgo, and Juan
Gutiérrez de Padilla,
minor9th wrote:
Greetings List,
An imported .tiff file to a short song for children seemed to work
just fine..on screen and with the print-out.
Discovered that the picture that I imported was missing a few days
later. It had a picture box with the file number in it instead of
which, for convenience, I shall style professional engraver's tools,
either for plug-ins, or to add to Finale itself. They should also have
functionality within the shape designer subsystem
1) Virtual dividers: click first one point, then on another, and the
plug in will display the distance
Vincent Cordel wrote:
Hi there,
I'm new to Finale.
I just bought Finale 2003 and the editor I work for still has Finale
2001.
It seems that the Save as doesn't show any options for backwards
compatibility.
To my knowledge, Coda while Coda has backwards read compatibility
(limited,
Klass posted, to the Finale e-mail list at SHSU,
Read the manual ;-). But: you can draw *anything* in the shape designer.
There's a bracket tool (all styles!) in there. Expression tool / shape
/create etc.
Which leads me to another suggestion for an improvement to Finale: adding an
entry
Michael Withers wrote:
Is there some trick to making the TIFF export work properly? Last
time I tried to use this, tweaking an exported TIFF in MS Photo Editor
and then reimporting into Finale resulted in a TIFF file at least
twice the size of the original export. Is this normal?
Don't
Richard Yates wrote:
This one has me stumped. What beat stays constant in this example:
http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Meters.gif (the rhythm is from Edw.
MacDowell)
From the fragment presented, I would say that the quarter note stays
constant. The 6/8 bar takes one and one half times
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isolating the staves
works really well using Michael's method but how do you draw the lines
between the columns?
Define lines as smart shapes, (custom smart shapes, if necessary)
and use those.
ns
Vincent Cordel wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isolating the staves works really well using Michael's method but how do you
draw the lines between the columns?
Define lines as smart shapes, (custom smart shapes, if necessary) and use those.
Actually I tried that but it
Mark D. Lew wrote:
I do mostly piano-vocal scores, so I don't have much opportunity to use to
repeated measures, but I vaguely remember going through something like this
about a year ago. I also wanted to increase the type size of all the
numbers. If I recall correctly, I did the following:
Harold Owen wrote:
1. I have a set of variations in a single file. What is the best way
to create a pause in the playback between the variations?
When I've run into this, since media is cheap, I simply create a second
file, one for print-out, one for playback. In the case you're
discussing,
Happy Christmas, listsibs.
Wandering though my local music emporium this morning, I chanced upon a
MIDI keyboard controller, with a compass of about two octaves. Since I
am contemplating loading Finale onto a (windows based) laptop to take
along to libraries when I consult volumes of music that
George Ports wrote:
Have a page with 2 staves..2 systems.with 4 measures in
each system. Am having trouble getting a grand staff to appear on both
systems. It only shows on the 1st system..not the 2nd.
First thought is that maybe you optimized systems before applying
With regard to John's response to Lawrence, in which he wrote in part,
snip
you would be doing work for hire, which would make any copyright
implications his responsibility.
I would observe that in the case of copying music for someone else in which
there is any doubt as to the copyright
Crystal Premo wrote:
In the original sheet music,
there are three pairs joined only on the top beam and separate the lower
beam.
It seems to me the documentation refers to this as breaking the secondary
beam. I think it's in the special tools menu, but may reside somewhere else.
ns
Tom Godfrey wrote:
[After editing a band score] the 3rd percussion part is on the top, and the
1st flute is on the bottom. der could
snip
is there an easy way to fix it?
Yes. Consult the documentation for the sort staves option of the Staff tool
menu.
ns
In pondering the question of online sales of scores in which I might have an
interest, I began to examine some of the underlying assumptions that inform the
process of selling music.
Traditionally, a publisher produced a sufficient quantity of each title of music,
and charged a price sufficient
John Howell wrote:
This is not a trivial matter. Office Max paper is less than ideal for
music, both in its light weight and its lack of opacity, and most people
lack access to anything more professional. So I'd guess that quite a few
people (including me!) would be willing to pay extra
In response to Patsy Moore, who wrote, in part
Can anyone give me ALT + numbers versions of the distinctive Czech
letters?
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote, in part:
You can then use the
Character Map to copy and paste, or if you just want Czech, here they are:
Personally, I find the Character
Darcy James Argue wrote, in part:
3) Looking For Baroque Oldstyle Font: I'm working on a poster that
uses the Baroque Oldstyle font JSL Ancient
http://www.shipbrook.com/jeff/typograf.html, a faux-Renaissance font.
However, I'm unhappy with the curly quotation marks provided. I would
I wrote, in part:
necessary to use this.
From the text dialog box (though not the text espression dialog box), if one
selects the menu text, the bottom item has been, at least since FIN2k,
insert symbol. Selecting this menu item provides a much easier to read
character map than the
I meant to reply to the list, but by mistake, wrote Mario privately, providing
similar information to that provided by Mark Lewis who wrote, in part:
To make that method work, I believe you want to type a non-breaking hyphen
followed by a regular hyphen. I'm not sure how to access that
Paul Hayden wrote:
If you can successfully print
side-by-side, letter size pages of music onto tabloid (or larger)
pieces of paper, I would very much appreciate knowing what settings
you are using in the Page Setup window (FinaleFilePage Setup), and
in the various Print windows. I am
Doug Auwarter wrote:
I'm using FinMac 2001d, iMac 450 DV+ 192megs ram.
Suddenly, when I use Speedy entry (entering notes from the computer
keyboard) the notes are entered an octave and a 6th lower than the cursor.
Somehow, you have indicated you have a transposed staff, I'd guess.
ns
Paul Hayden wrote:
If you have a multimovement work that you want to print out in
booklet form (2-up, duplexed, folded and stapled), I assume that
_all_ the movements must be in one Finale file.
Not so. I have printed out a multi-movement work in which each movement
is an independant
Linda wrote:
I have a problem I've never had before. I created some score
templates with the set up wizard (I usually just create them on the
fly with the staff tool) and the scores came up looking great, but in
a VERY small percentage view. I went to the percent tool, which told
me that
Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote:
description of work snipped, up to The score is supplied as a Finale
file.
Parts and score are required.
If normal rates for a page of orchestral score are x, what is the multiple
to be applied for this?
For doing part extraction, and preparing score and
Rodney Waterman wrote:
[FinWin 2k3a]Vocal Score:
How do I change fonts for text when, after Fit Music and Resize Page
operations, the Lyrics become crowded and overlap?
Others have addressed the details of how to do this, but I would prefix one
point to this: you may want look into adding a
Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote:
[Finale 2003 Windows 2000]
I pressed some combination of keys while working. It was ALT+ something.
Maybe a finger slipped. I had two .MUS documents open. Hadn't saved in a
while (maybe 8-10 minutes). After doing this mystery command Finale was
gone. Without a
Darcy James Argue wrote:
I'm working on engraving a piece with the following instrumentation:
Timp
Bells/Chimes
Perc
Harp
Piano
Boy Soprano
SATB chorus
Strings
My question is, what score order would you choose for this ensemble?
The above order would be (I believe) the standard
JT wrote, asking:
I'm working on a score which the composer wants in the Maestro Wide font.
However in the drum part, he wants some noteheads from the Maestro Percussion
font. Is there any way using special tools to choose from a different font?
Here's one way, useful if the composer
Friends,
FWIW, I enquired of MakeMusic when they would begin accepting orders on
WINFIN 2k4. The answer: closer to the release date, late summer /
early autumn.
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Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote:
Did you ask them if they fixed the slur bug?
No. I only asked when I could order 2k4.
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Richard Huggins wrote:
I don't know Sibelius, so keep that in mind, but how likely is it that the
Sibelius rep would conveniently ignore those things that are easier and
faster in Finale? If he wants to keep his job, VERY likely.
The most unbiased head to head comparison I am familar with
David McKay wrote:
On Friday our 5 year old computer died. So on Saturday I bought a new one,
with a card reader, firewire, usb cordless keyboard and mouse, but no
joystick port. So I can't use my MIDI breakout cable thingy to connect to my
computer.
What do people use these days?
I know
Taris L Flashpaw wrote:
Anyone here either know where I can find or can scan and send me some
examples of chant in the Phrygian mode?
Do you have a copy of the Liber Usualis? The introit for Midnight Mass
of
Christmas, Dominus dixit ad me is in Phrygian mode...
ns
(Scans are fine in
Chalk it up to operator error, I guess, but when I wrote:
Do you have a copy of the Liber Usualis? The introit for Midnight Mass
of
Christmas, Dominus dixit ad me is in Phrygian mode...
I goofed; the introit, Dominus dixit ad me is in mode 2, and thus, I
believe, hypodorian, not
Friends:
1) In search of condensed typefaces for use in lyrics, I have bee
collecting some of the inexpensive CD's containing Fonts available in
certain computer stores. There are a number of inexpensive Discs
available; if you purchase one of them, 1,111 Selected Fonts from the
German firm,
Bob Florence wrote:
I wish to thank you all for letting me know about the trouble I was
causing with Spamarrest. The account has been canceled. Now I can read
all of the weight loss, penile enlargements, and low interest
refinancing adds. :-)
You don't have to. You can do as I do, and use
David H. Bailey wrote:
Alice's Restaurant was 70s, but MacArthur Park (only the album version,
though -- the single was shortened)
Sorry, David, Alice's Restaurant [the song] was copyrighted in 1966;
Alice's Restaurant the movie (cf: The Internet Movie Database
Harold Owen wrote:
Folks,
It's interesting that Hey Jude and other Beatles tunes are being
discussed on the Finale List. The SMT List (Mus Theory) has been on
the same track for over a week. I suggested that Lasso's chanson Bon
Jour Mon Coeur begins with the same progression as the Hey
Richard Huggins wrote to Timothy, about MacArthur Park, about which Timothy had
written:
Curious, I never met anyone who really liked the song.
Tim, I'm Richard and I like the song. (extends hand and says it's nice to
meet you) Now you have.
I'm Noel, and I like it too; maybe it's a Texas
Kurt Gnos wrote:
Hi all,
tied to make some EPS files for using in Quark Xpress (on Win XP) I got
this working in earlier versions, but never without much fuss and
workarounds. However, now it won't work at all. There will be an output
(huge), but no program will read it and my PS printer
Brad Beyenhof wrote:
Does anyone know where I could find the sizes of various characters in
Maestro font, such as clefs? For example, how many EVPUs across is a
24-point treble clef, or a bass clef, or a sharp symbol, etc.?
Let me rephrase the question, then. If nobody knows of a
Darcy James Argue wrote:
I've noticed this a few times lately, and I'm wondering whether it's
related to Classic, or FinMac2002b generally. Or if anyone else has
observed this behavior.
Sometimes, when I have lots of documents open simultaneously (like,
say, a full set of orchestral
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
How does one get more than 2 measures under one ending bracket? The plugin
and the repeat designer only seem to be able to create the first measure
bracket and the last measure bracket, but not the line connecting them. How
does one do this,
I thought one could
Philip, WRT your comment:
I'm not a font designer but I suggest that there is an emerging Unicode
slot mapping standardization for music fonts. You may wish to check
into it on the web http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1D100.pdf and
supplement that with an inquiry to Coda as to (future)
Lee Dengler wrote:
Hi All,
I have decided I need to buy a laptop PC. One of the main programs I
will be running on it is Finale 2003. I'd be very interested in any
advice, suggestion, cautions, etc. that I should consider. Are there
small midi keyboards available that could be used
Fisher, Allen wrote:
I have a Roland PC 300 controlller (no sounds) that works great on any PC
with a USB port. It has a built-in interface and a USB direct to computer,
or if you prefer the old school method, there is a MIDI port to be connected
to either an interface or the game port.
To whom it may concern:
If not implemented in FIN 2k4, one thing I would like to see in 2k5 is
the ability to attach an expression to a text block.
It is the practice used in some hymnals, not to underlay all verses of a
hymn text to a given tune, but rather to provide the tune, sometimes
with a
To whom it may concern:
If not implemented in FIN 2k4, one thing I would like to see in 2k5 is
the ability to do global search and replace in all text dialog boxes,
but especially those involved with lyrics and text blocks.
ns
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If not implemented in FIN 2k4, one thing I would like to see in 2k5 is
the ability to attach a smart shape to a text block or page. This would
permit the use of smart lines or slurs as rules on a title page, or to
draw a box around the music on a page.
ns
Jari Williamsson wrote:
Noel Stoutenburg writes:
If not implemented in FIN 2k4, one thing I would like to see in 2k5 is
the ability to embed non-printing, optional carriage return / linefeed
sequences (hereinafter, CR-LFs) in text expressions.
Why would the line feed has to be optional
Darcy James Argue wrote, with respect to having optional CR-LF's::
I don't understand the desire for
*optional* line breaks, when it's so easy to change from one to the
other (duplicate one and turn it into the other). Seems like a awful
amount of extra programming work for a cumbersome,
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
When I do a contracted job where I engrave something for a publisher, how
much do I own of it? I think most would probably agree that if I engrave
with my own settings, those settings are in fact my property, and the
publisher cannot make me give them away unless this
Darcy wrote, in part, enquiring:
Do you mean that you would allow line breaks on some staves and not
others?
I hadn't thought about that bit. I was thinking more about a lengty text
expression that occurs several times in the same score, where in a couple
places it needs to be compressed by
About documents without libraries, Giuliano Forghieri wrote, in part
It's there in WinFin 2001 too: Menu File - New - Document Without Libraries
to which Johannes resopnded
Cheers, I thought it was introduced later.
Actually, it existed earlier, if I'm not mistaken. The item now known
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 13.07.2003 0:11 Uhr, Noel Stoutenburg wrote
Actually, it existed earlier, if I'm not mistaken. The item now known as
document
without libraries previously existed,. though with the name empty document.
Are you sure? I can only remember the days when
To whom it may concern:
If not implemented in FIN 2k4, one thing I would like to see in 2k5 is
the ability to add a pair of control points to slurs and dashed slurs,
and insert a horizontal segment to the slur, having the same width as
the slur at the point at which the insertion is made, or
To whom it may concern:
If not implemented in FIN 2k4, one thing I would like to see in 2k5 is
the capability to edit characteristics of crescendo and descrescendo
smart shapes using a dialog box. Upon creating a crescendo smartshape,
it should be possible to pull up a dialog box showing the
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