Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 04:15:01 +0100
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From: John Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PS My original query was intended to be light-hearted. In a way I'm
almost disappointed that I got no obscene suggestions.
Sigh. Guess that's my cue...
In HS Music Theory, when we did bass clef for
From: John Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
teacher has suggested what atrocious weather as an aid (we live in
London).
Does anyone know of other phrases that might
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 09:37 PM 6/30/02 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On Sunday, June 30, 2002, at 09:18 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 1 Jul 2002, at 1:57, John Bell wrote:
Does anyone know of other phrases that might help?
I was taught pass the golden butter.
That's a...
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
Pass the goddamn butter is irregular the way I say it (quarter-eighth
triplet, two quarters, two eighths) unless you add a rest at the end and
flatten it all out. Then I can hear the 1-2-4-6 syllable part as the 4
side, but did you mean 1-3-6 for the three side?
John Bell wrote on July 01
My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
teacher has suggested what atrocious weather as an aid (we live in
London).
Does anyone know of other phrases that might help?
At 9:50 PM 06/30/02, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
I'm not getting any of this. What is that supposed to help with? Maybe you
have to know a timing trick first before the mnemonic helps, because I sure
don't see it!
I too find this alleged mnemonic bewildering, even after reading the
explanation.
At 04:03 pm -0800 01.07.2002, Mark D. Lew wrote:
I too find this alleged mnemonic bewildering, even after reading the
explanation. None of the proposed phrases fall naturally into the
prescribed rhythm. Sure, you could say the phrase that way anyway, but
that presupposes that you already know
At 07:02 pm -0800 01.07.2002, Mark D. Lew wrote:
if they focus the mind to use the right muscles
to make the right sound, then it's a useful fiction.
You put that better than I did, but I think it's exactly right.
From a physiological point of
view, half the concepts we teach are inaccurate
My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
teacher has suggested what atrocious weather as an aid (we live in
London).
Does anyone know of other phrases that might help?
Thanks for any suggestions
John
On 1 Jul 2002, at 1:57, John Bell wrote:
My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
teacher has suggested what atrocious weather as an aid (we live in
London).
Does anyone know of other phrases that
On Sunday, June 30, 2002, at 09:18 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 1 Jul 2002, at 1:57, John Bell wrote:
My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
teacher has suggested what atrocious weather as an aid
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 1 Jul 2002, at 1:57, John Bell wrote:
My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
teacher has suggested what atrocious weather as an aid (we live in
London).
Does
At 1:57 AM +0100 7/01/02, John Bell wrote:
My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
teacher has suggested what atrocious weather as an aid (we live in
London).
Does anyone know of other phrases that might
On 30 Jun 2002, at 21:37, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On Sunday, June 30, 2002, at 09:18 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 1 Jul 2002, at 1:57, John Bell wrote:
My son is learning a piano piece in which he is experiencing some
difficulty with a passage that has 3 in RH against 4 in LH. His
In addition to the various things about butter (I personally learned eat
your goddamned spinach), you can also approach this rhythm the other way:
Aunt Mary bakes a cake.
Aaron.
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At 09:50 PM 06/30/02, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 09:37 PM 6/30/02 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote:
That's a... erhm... nicer version of what I believe to be the original
mnemonic, pass the goddamn butter.
I'm not getting any of this. What is that supposed to help with? Maybe you
have to
At 10:34 PM 6/30/02 -0400, you wrote:
Tap one hand on syllables 1, 2, 4, and 6; tap the other hand on syllables
1, 5, and 6. Instant 3 against 4.
Pass the goddamn butter is irregular the way I say it (quarter-eighth
triplet, two quarters, two eighths) unless you add a rest at the end and
At 09:50 pm -0400 30.06.2002, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
I'm not getting any of this. What is that supposed to help with? Maybe you
have to know a timing trick first before the mnemonic helps, because I sure
don't see it!
(I'm not a keyboardist at all, but I have conducted two meters
At 11:08 PM -0400 6/30/02, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
In any case, whatever this is strikes me as a heck of a lot of hard work,
versus just learning 3 against 4 by itself. I had to sketch this sentence
on paper a few times. Kids get this? I taught elementary school music for
six years and
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