Re: [Finale] Intellectual property

2003-08-19 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Aug 2003 at 9:13, Andrew Stiller wrote: the PIRATES and THEIR customers aren't gonna be inconvenienced by the copy protection, while we loyal MakeMusic customers ARE inconvenienced. -- David H. Bailey I had vowed to stay out of this argument, but I can't help but notice that

Re: [Finale] Intellectual property

2003-08-14 Thread Andrew Stiller
the PIRATES and THEIR customers aren't gonna be inconvenienced by the copy protection, while we loyal MakeMusic customers ARE inconvenienced. -- David H. Bailey I had vowed to stay out of this argument, but I can't help but notice that this argument is identical to that used by the gun lobby

Re: [Finale] Intellectual property

2003-08-14 Thread David H. Bailey
Well, that's reassuring! (not!) Hands up, anybody who has ever owned copy-protected software (games included) where the company has gone out of business and the copy protection has gotten lost or destroyed? Are we all reassued now? Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 09.08.2003 2:31 Uhr, Craig

Re: [Finale] Intellectual property

2003-08-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:19 AM 8/9/03 -0500, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Frankly I can't imagine why anybody who intended to abide by the license would be complaining about this. It's for the same reason somebody might object to being searched while having nothing to hide, or to seat belt laws while always wearing one,

Re: [Finale] Intellectual property

2003-08-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 09.08.2003 14:01 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote Hands up, anybody who has ever owned copy-protected software (games included) where the company has gone out of business and the copy protection has gotten lost or destroyed? Loads, actually. And even the best legal support will not change that.

Re: [Finale] Intellectual property

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Huggins
Geez...you mean we've gone all the way to human liberties in this discussion?? That good ole MM could be part of a scheme by which our freedom might slowly erode without our knowing it? A music notation software company?? Give me a break, please. Since we know that some of the good folks at MM

Re: [Finale] Intellectual property

2003-08-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 09.08.2003 2:31 Uhr, Craig Parmerlee wrote Come on Tobias, surely you are not assuming that MakeMusic is free from any dangers of bankruptcy, corruption, commercial interests?... never ever to go bust? Look at what happened to Opcode... Well that is the point, isn't it? They are putting

Re: [Finale] Intellectual property

2003-08-09 Thread David H. Bailey
None of us on this list have advocated the piracy of IP nor have we advocated a freeloader mentality. And I do gripe about the Iraq war, and not surprisingly these days in the U.S., I often get the same sort of argument in favor of the Iraq war that you give in favor of copy protection for

[Finale] Intellectual property

2003-08-08 Thread Craig Parmerlee
At 11:36 PM 8/8/2003 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 08.08.2003 18:59 Uhr, Tobias Giesen wrote I have had personal (albeit mostly via email) contact with many Coda employees, and I am deeply convinced that if there is one company that you can trust, it's them. Many Coda employees,