Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-14 Thread Philip Aker
Peter Castine wrote: On around Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:14:44 -0700, Philip Aker--suspecting self-contradiction on my part?--said something like: Actually, due to the contents of a number of your posts, I been thinking that you don't have OS X 10.1.5 installed on a machine you use on a daily

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-14 Thread Philip Aker
David: You've missed my point about Finale's upgrade schedule entirely. The point is that a Carbonized application runs on MacOS from 8.6 to X.x. Coda did not implement the incremental changes over the last four years that would have made the final step from a Classic application to a

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-14 Thread Rocky Road
And so it came to pass that Johannes Gebauer spake: Even OS X, the biggest OS change in the last 18 years, still lets a number of non-updated apps run. Shame about the audio MIDI, though. That is strictly speaking not correct. Anything that is not Carbon (ie Classic apps not updated

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-14 Thread Rocky Road
And so it came to pass that Mark D. Lew spake: At 2:23 PM 07/11/02, Darcy James Argue wrote: Unfortunately, since the only PDF files I ever need to make are Finale files, and Finale is not yet compatible with OS X, I've never had the opportunity to really test this feature. This is just one

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-14 Thread Rocky Road
Jarii Williamsson spoke: What if MaxOSX (or Carbon) _didn't_ work in real-life implementations or _didn't_ get customer approval? This has happened many times before in history, and the former is still true for MacOSX to some extent regarding the MIDI implementation - one and a half year after

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-14 Thread Peter Castine
On around 14­7­2002 12:54, Philip Aker said something like: I wonder what your top 10 peeves with OS X are? Unix, unix, unix, unix, unix, unix, unix, unix, unix, and 192x192 pixel icons. A more when I get back. I'm out of town for five days and still have some preparation to do. -- P.

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2002, at 3:54, Philip Aker wrote: You've missed my point about Finale's upgrade schedule entirely. The point is that a Carbonized application runs on MacOS from 8.6 to X.x. Coda did not implement the incremental changes over the last four years that would have made the final

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-13 Thread Philip Aker
On Friday, July 12, 2002, at 02:52 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: If you read my reply to Jari Williamsson on the same topic, you will see that had Coda been implementing the changes for Carbon incrementally, the adaption to MacOS X would be comparable to a minor upgrade. That is because

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-13 Thread Philip Aker
Peter Castine wrote: In one post: I can't remember whether it was Tog or one of the later Apple UI gurus who adivsed that developers responsible for porting software should spend at least half a year using the other platform as their main working machine. To learn the culture, to learn

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-12 Thread Harold Steinhardt
I've been using Finale since version 1.0 - when it was Mac only - one of the main reasons I went Mac. For that matter, Quicken when it was Apple II and Mac (no PC), AOL when it was only a Mac community, PageMaker when it was Mac or nothing. All these great programs (okay, maybe not AOL) that

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-12 Thread David H. Bailey
Philip Aker wrote: On Thursday, July 11, 2002, at 04:48 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: I hope Coda has finally decided to stop discriminating against it's long time Macintosh user base in this regard. We Windows users had to slog through *four* versions of Finale to get one that

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-12 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Jul 2002, at 20:56, Philip Aker wrote: FinWin 2003 is compatible with WindowsXP but FinMac 2003 will not be with MacOS X. Yet MacOS X was released well before copycat XP. A ridiculous comparison, to say the least. WinXP is not a new API, nor a completely new OS architecture. It is a

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-12 Thread Philip Aker
On Friday, July 12, 2002, at 04:37 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: The point is that just like everyone else, Coda has known since late 1996 that changes were coming and since late 1997, opportunity to stage in a Carbon port. What if MaxOSX (or Carbon) _didn't_ work in real-life

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-12 Thread Philip Aker
On Friday, July 12, 2002, at 06:15 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: FinWin 2003 is compatible with WindowsXP but FinMac 2003 will not be with MacOS X. Yet MacOS X was released well before copycat XP. A ridiculous comparison, to say the least. Right now, I think the ridiculousness is coming

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-12 Thread Peter Castine
Date: 12 Jul 2002 02:03:30 -0500 From: Harold Steinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dennis, if it's comforting to you, I feel recent versions of Finale for Mac have become a Windoze-port stepchild. Amen. Basically, a company that understands the fact that the Mac UI is more than the Windows UI with an

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 12.07.2002 17:36 Uhr, Peter Castine wrote Even OS X, the biggest OS change in the last 18 years, still lets a number of non-updated apps run. Shame about the audio MIDI, though. That is strictly speaking not correct. Anything that is not Carbon (ie Classic apps not updated for OS X) will

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-12 Thread Éric Dussault
You can basically do the same thing with OS 8/9. Print to File, and in the Save as File panel select Acrobat PDF. We're talking here about making a PDF without the help of an Adobe product directly from the OS. Aren't we? Of course it is possible with the help of ghostscript or distiller but

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-12 Thread David W. Fenton
On 12 Jul 2002, at 17:36, Peter Castine wrote: Apple's track record on backwards compatibility is actually, IMHO, pretty good. I've still got a couple of dozen little apps that are more than 10 years old and run on my current set up. Even OS X, the biggest OS change in the last 18 years,

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-12 Thread David W. Fenton
On 12 Jul 2002, at 7:16, Philip Aker wrote: On Friday, July 12, 2002, at 06:15 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: WinXP is not a new API, nor a completely new OS architecture. It is a minor upgrade to Windows 2000, a significant upgrade to NT 4. If you read my reply to Jari Williamsson on

[Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-11 Thread Doug Auwarter
From the Apple web site: Being able to create PDF files is really handy, and Mac OS X lets you create them from any application. Here¹s how: €   Open a document you¹d like to save as a PDF, pull down the File menu, and choose Print. €   In the Print dialog, click the Preview button. Mac

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Thursday, July 11, 2002, at 01:46 PM, Doug Auwarter wrote: Anybody tried this? I'm curious how well it works and what are the disadvantages to using another dedicated piece of software like Acrobat or Ghostwriter to create PDF files. Unfortunately, since the only PDF files I ever need

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-11 Thread Philippe Massart
From the Apple web site: Being able to create PDF files is really handy, and Mac OS X lets you create them from any application. Here's how: * Open a document you'd like to save as a PDF, pull down the File menu, and choose Print. * In the Print dialog, click the Preview button. Mac

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-11 Thread Philip Aker
On Thursday, July 11, 2002, at 11:23 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On Thursday, July 11, 2002, at 01:46 PM, Doug Auwarter wrote: Anybody tried this? I'm curious how well it works and what are the disadvantages to using another dedicated piece of software like Acrobat or Ghostwriter to

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:17 PM 7/11/02 -0700, Philip Aker wrote: I hope Coda has finally decided to stop discriminating against it's long time Macintosh user base in this regard. We Windows users had to slog through *four* versions of Finale to get one that didn't act like a Mac-port stepchild. Even today,

Re: [Finale] PDF from Mac OSX

2002-07-11 Thread Philip Aker
On Thursday, July 11, 2002, at 04:48 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: I hope Coda has finally decided to stop discriminating against it's long time Macintosh user base in this regard. We Windows users had to slog through *four* versions of Finale to get one that didn't act like a Mac-port