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On 10/18/11 6:42 PM, Rodriguez-Mueller, Jennifer wrote:
My question is simple in some ways but may(?) catch a lot of other
fink newbies who run into the same confusions. This email
documents the problem I ran into, where I researched to find an
answer, and concludes with a request for information.
It is probably relevant that I'm (1) relatively new to Mac, (2) in
the first few days of setting up a MacBook Pro with Lion 10.7.2,
and (3) am not deeply read into the current state of Java other
than knowing it's current corporate patron is Oracle which makes me
fear for the liberality of its future...
Given that background, I tried installing fink:
mymachine: fink-0.31.3 sudo ./bootstrap Password:
Please install Java SDK before re-attempting fink bootstrap
So I thought that would be no problem to fix. Google, download,
install, and move on, right? But the more I looked the more it
seemed that there isn't a simple and obviously correct thing to do
:-(
When I google JDK Mac I get:
Stack overflow complaints that don't have clean answers.
A grossly obsolete FAQ from Apple that doesn't even contain the
text Lion: http://developer.apple.com/java/faq/
And an ironically amusing forum complaint:
http://www.javaprogrammingforums.com/cafe/6088-i-cant-find-java-jdk-standard-edition-mac-os-x.html
The best I can find that might solve the problem is what seems
like a (currently unfinished) attempt to port OpenJDK to Max OSX.
I don't want to install an unfinished programming language to run
something as fundamental to my computer's infrastructure as a
package manager. Maybe I should stop being so finicky and just see
what happens? But I'd like to keep the system administration on my
laptop clean and tidy, not play around with bleeding edge
infrastructure. http://openjdk.java.net/projects/macosx-port/
I've searched for anyone else having Java problems on the fink
mailing lists and found JDK mentioned in only two places:
This is a link to a 2006 article on OpenJDK politics
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.foss.nepal/4963
This is a post and then 40 minutes later a re-post documenting a
work around for getting a particular version of JBoss to work with
a particular JDK version.
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.jboss.user/311040
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.jboss.user/311042
…
Once I reached this point in my research I decided that I should
probably just summarize the state of my knowledge and ask for
wisdom in some place that was google searchable so that other
people in the same situation can find this email in the future and
then click next in thread to find the answer :-)
Does there currently exists a way to use a production ready fink
with production ready tools starting from a machine running Lion
that came without a JDK? If my goal is simplicity and stability,
should I give up on Java (and hence fink) for now? Or maybe... is
the mac port of OpenJDK more production-ready than its front page
looks?
Wisdom (and links to download sites with good instructions) would
be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jennifer
It looks like the our bootstrap error message text needs some
clarification.
Apple decided for Lion to make the their Java SDK downloadable on
demand, provided, of course, that one has a network connection active.
I believe that running e.g. just javac in a terminal window will
trigger a download.
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Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
Fink User Liaison
http://finkakh.wordpress.com/
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