Re: [Fink-beginners] fink fail

[Schneider]

Alexander:

> We aren???t that sophisticated???and our build procedures aren???t
> supposed to go online even to check the FAQ.  The easiest thing we
> can do is to have meaningful FAQ links under ???fink info
> , but in this case the relevant FAQ doesn???t even
> exist.

Well, could you point out to the person to check the FAQ and give them
the URL?  Then they wouldn't be dead in the water like I was (until I
got your excellently fast help).

Tom

  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
  Senior Investigator
  National Institutes of Health
  National Cancer Institute
  Center for Cancer Research
  Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
  Molecular Information Theory Group
  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink fail

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 17:19, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> Alexander:
> 
> Can't resolve dependency "system-xfree86-dev (>= 3:2.7.112-3)" for package
> "libxaw3dxft-1.6.2-7" (no matching packages/versions found)
> Exiting with failure.
 That indicates that you need to install XQuartz 2.7.11.
>>> Is there a way that I could know this without bothering you?
> 
>> Not really. :-)  We repurposed an existing set of virtual packages
>> for the purpose, and the current package descriptions aren't very
>> helpful in explaining the versioning.
> 
>> It???s worth adding to the FAQ, though.
> 
> Maybe the FAQ could be automated to display answers upon "Exiting with
> failure"?  Pass the fail string to a program that knows where the
> right FAQ is and print that FAQ to the user.  Then you can modify the
> FAQs as needed.
> 
> Might be a bit to set up at first, but after that you would be freed

We aren’t that sophisticated—and our build procedures aren’t supposed to go 
online even to check the FAQ.  The easiest thing we can do is to have 
meaningful FAQ links under “fink info , but in this case the 
relevant FAQ doesn’t even exist.

> ...
> 
> Oh, and a solution to nox could be to have synonyms.  A message has
> system 'no-X11' and it looks that up in a synonym table to find 'nox'
> ...
> 

The best we can do for that is have a package provide a list of acceptable 
alternative names.  We’re very much constrained when anything involves the 
package name.

> Tom
> 
>  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
>  Senior Investigator
>  National Institutes of Health
>  National Cancer Institute
>  Center for Cancer Research
>  Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
>  Molecular Information Theory Group
>  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
>  schne...@mail.nih.gov
>  https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
>  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)



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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink fail

[Schneider]

Alexander:

> >>> Can't resolve dependency "system-xfree86-dev (>= 3:2.7.112-3)" for package
> >>> "libxaw3dxft-1.6.2-7" (no matching packages/versions found)
> >>> Exiting with failure.
> >> That indicates that you need to install XQuartz 2.7.11.
> > Is there a way that I could know this without bothering you?

> Not really. :-)  We repurposed an existing set of virtual packages
> for the purpose, and the current package descriptions aren't very
> helpful in explaining the versioning.

> It???s worth adding to the FAQ, though.

Maybe the FAQ could be automated to display answers upon "Exiting with
failure"?  Pass the fail string to a program that knows where the
right FAQ is and print that FAQ to the user.  Then you can modify the
FAQs as needed.

Might be a bit to set up at first, but after that you would be freed
...

Oh, and a solution to nox could be to have synonyms.  A message has
system 'no-X11' and it looks that up in a synonym table to find 'nox'
...

Tom

  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
  Senior Investigator
  National Institutes of Health
  National Cancer Institute
  Center for Cancer Research
  Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
  Molecular Information Theory Group
  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
  schne...@mail.nih.gov
  https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)

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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink fail

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 17:04, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> Alexander:
> 
>>> Can't resolve dependency "system-xfree86-dev (>= 3:2.7.112-3)" for package
>>> "libxaw3dxft-1.6.2-7" (no matching packages/versions found)
>>> Exiting with failure.
>> 
>> That indicates that you need to install XQuartz 2.7.11.
> 
> Thanks as always for your rapid responses.
> 
> Is there a way that I could know this without bothering you?
> 
> Tom
> 
>  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
>  Senior Investigator
>  National Institutes of Health
>  National Cancer Institute
>  Center for Cancer Research
>  Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
>  Molecular Information Theory Group
>  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
>  schne...@mail.nih.gov
>  https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
>  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)
> 
> ———

Not really. :-)  We repurposed an existing set of virtual packages for the 
purpose, and the current package descriptions aren't very helpful in explaining 
the versioning.

It’s worth adding to the FAQ, though.


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Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
Fink User Liaison


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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink fail

[Schneider]

Alexander:

> > Can't resolve dependency "system-xfree86-dev (>= 3:2.7.112-3)" for package
> > "libxaw3dxft-1.6.2-7" (no matching packages/versions found)
> > Exiting with failure.
> 
> That indicates that you need to install XQuartz 2.7.11.

Thanks as always for your rapid responses.

Is there a way that I could know this without bothering you?

Tom

  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
  Senior Investigator
  National Institutes of Health
  National Cancer Institute
  Center for Cancer Research
  Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
  Molecular Information Theory Group
  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
  schne...@mail.nih.gov
  https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)

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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink fail

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 15:50, Schneider  wrote:
> 
> 
> fink selfupdate
> ...
> No packages to install.
> 
> The core packages have been updated. You should now update the other packages
> using commands like 'fink update-all'.
> 
> 9% fink update-all
> Information about 10187 packages read in 1 seconds.
> Can't resolve dependency "system-xfree86-dev (>= 3:2.7.112-3)" for package
> "libxaw3dxft-1.6.2-7" (no matching packages/versions found)
> Exiting with failure.
> 10% 
> 
> 
> Oh oh ...
> 
> OS X Yosemite
> Version 10.10.5
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tom
> 
>  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
>  Senior Investigator
>  National Institutes of Health
>  National Cancer Institute
>  Center for Cancer Research
>  Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
>  Molecular Information Theory Group
>  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
>  schne...@mail.nih.gov
>  https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
>  https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)
> 
> ———


That indicates that you need to install XQuartz 2.7.11.

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Fink User Liaison


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