Re: Shotguns as recommended for self-defense for some people, over handguns

2009-02-15 Thread Jk
Hi all, I am sorry for the delay in responding to this thread and I don't mean to resurrect its mostly dead state, but, since I was able to put together a test case, it seemed reasonable to put it forward. I was reading the large number of comments about the shotgun being too unwieldy to be

Re: Shotguns as recommended for self-defense for some people, over handguns

2009-02-12 Thread Greg Jacobs
An interesting subject, and not one I usually expect from my learned colleagues of the Bar. But, if Professor V allows it, excellent, because I think I know more about handling guns than handling legal treatises on constitutional law. I see that the consensus seems to be that handguns are

RE: Shotguns as recommended for self-defense for some people over handguns

2009-02-09 Thread Raymond Kessler
Good point Charles! -Original Message- From: firearmsregprof-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:firearmsregprof-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Curley Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:57 PM To: firearmsregprof@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: Shotguns as recommended for self-defense

RE: Shotguns as recommended for self-defense for some people over handguns

2009-02-09 Thread Raymond Kessler
Portions of these 2 Heller briefs deal with the handgun as home defensive firearms choices. 2008 WL 405576 (Appellate Brief) Brief of the International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association (ILEETA), the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors (IALEFI),

Re: Shotguns as recommended for self-defense for some people over handguns

2009-02-07 Thread Philip F. Lee
None of the responders mentioned the risk of liability on injury to innocents from handgun rounds penetration and range compared to shotguns. Also, the shotgun should have a superior hit probability to the handgun for those with limited experience. In fact on this list has been a report

Re: Shotguns as recommended for self-defense for some people over handguns

2009-02-04 Thread Joseph E. Olson
Unfortunately, Eugene, the shotgun idea is the result of ignorance by gun owners as well as the general populace. Many in both groups believe the nonsense that an 18 inch (shortest legal length) barreled shotgun will fill a hallway with lead. Simply FALSE. The pattern of shotgun pellets

Re: Shotguns as recommended for self-defense for some people over handguns

2009-02-04 Thread Henry E Schaffer
I have many of my books packed up as a result of a recent move of my study - but of the books I'd consult first would be some by Massad Ayoob such as StressFire II - Advanced Combat Shotgun which has the blurb