Re: [Firebird-devel] -m switch

2015-10-15 Thread Dmitry Yemanov
15.10.2015 09:21, Helen Borrie wrote: > > Where is this? It's not in Fb3 Beta2 config file... Current trunk. It was changed between Beta 2 and RC1. Dmitry -- Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at

Re: [Firebird-devel] -m switch

2015-10-15 Thread Dmitry Yemanov
15.10.2015 10:01, Helen Borrie wrote: > > When can we expect to get snapshots? Currently the Windows snapshots > are just the Examples sub-tree or, in the case of the PDB kits, just > fbclient and engine12 dlls. They were OK a fews days back. Maybe the build became broken, I will verify in a

Re: [Firebird-devel] -m switch

2015-10-15 Thread Helen Borrie
Hello Dmitry, > 15.10.2015 09:21, Helen Borrie wrote: >> >> Where is this? It's not in Fb3 Beta2 config file... Thursday, October 15, 2015, 7:25:53 PM, you wrote: > Current trunk. It was changed between Beta 2 and RC1. Thanks for telling me. Helen

Re: [Firebird-devel] -m switch

2015-10-15 Thread Helen Borrie
Hello Dmitry, Thursday, October 15, 2015, 7:25:53 PM, you wrote: > Current trunk. It was changed between Beta 2 and RC1. When can we expect to get snapshots? Currently the Windows snapshots are just the Examples sub-tree or, in the case of the PDB kits, just fbclient and engine12 dlls. Helen

Re: [Firebird-devel] -m switch

2015-10-15 Thread Dmitry Yemanov
15.10.2015 10:16, Dmitry Yemanov wrote: > >> When can we expect to get snapshots? Currently the Windows snapshots >> are just the Examples sub-tree or, in the case of the PDB kits, just >> fbclient and engine12 dlls. > > They were OK a fews days back. Maybe the build became broken, I will >

Re: [Firebird-devel] -m switch

2015-10-15 Thread Helen Borrie
Hello Dmitry, Thursday, October 15, 2015, 8:55:30 PM, you wrote: > Snapshots are rebuilt and re-uploaded. Thanks - downloaded the x64 7z kit and it's OK. Helen -- Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at

Re: [Firebird-devel] -m switch

2015-10-15 Thread Helen Borrie
Hello Dmitry, > 15.10.2015 04:43, Helen Borrie wrote: >> >> Classic & Superclassic: SharedCache=0, SharedDatabase=1 >> So - what configuration parameter distinguishes Superclassic from >> Classic? Thursday, October 15, 2015, 5:58:47 PM, you wrote: > # > #

Re: [Firebird-devel] -m switch

2015-10-15 Thread Simonov Denis
Helen Borrie писал(а) в своём письме Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:21:19 +0300: > Hello Dmitry, > >> 15.10.2015 04:43, Helen Borrie wrote: >>> >>> Classic & Superclassic: SharedCache=0, SharedDatabase=1 >>> So - what configuration parameter distinguishes Superclassic from >>>

Re: [Firebird-devel] optional SET TERM

2015-10-15 Thread Ann Harrison
> On Oct 15, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > > 15.10.2015 15:51, marius adrian popa wrote: >> In InterBase 7 is changed so procedure and trigger programming language to >> no longer >> require the use of SET TERM > > IMHO, this is unnecessary complication

[Firebird-devel] optional SET TERM

2015-10-15 Thread marius adrian popa
In InterBase 7 is changed so procedure and trigger programming language to no longer require the use of SET TERM http://edn.embarcadero.com/article/29285 -- Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at

Re: [Firebird-devel] optional SET TERM

2015-10-15 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
15.10.2015 15:51, marius adrian popa wrote: > In InterBase 7 is changed so procedure and trigger programming language to no > longer > require the use of SET TERM IMHO, this is unnecessary complication of isql's parser. I'd prefer to follow KISS concept. -- WBR, SD.

Re: [Firebird-devel] optional SET TERM

2015-10-15 Thread Norman Dunbar
Hi Dmitry, > Nevertheless, SQL*Plus has command SET SQLT[ERMINATOR]. Indeed it has, and in roughly 20 years of working with Oracle, I've never used it, nor seen it used. Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my

Re: [Firebird-devel] optional SET TERM

2015-10-15 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
15.10.2015 22:32, Norman Dunbar wrote: > No set term is required. These are the default terminators, and effectively, > for Oracle, > the only two required. Nevertheless, SQL*Plus has command SET SQLT[ERMINATOR]. -- WBR, SD.

Re: [Firebird-devel] optional SET TERM

2015-10-15 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
Em 15-10-2015 17:32, Norman Dunbar escreveu: > Hi Adriano, > >> Oracle uses something that I didn't understand exactly, wanting a '/' >> after some commands. That has no (clear) logic. > > A wee bit off topic, hopefully Helen won't mind/notice! > > In SQL*Plus each statement is terminated by

Re: [Firebird-devel] optional SET TERM

2015-10-15 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 15/10/2015 13:57, p519446 wrote: > IMO, need to specify SET TERM before every block causes only > irritation and nothing more. > > More than 50% of all errors in the scripts that I prepare by typing > relate to missing of this statement or specifying "^" and ";" in wrong > order. Damn it! >

Re: [Firebird-devel] optional SET TERM

2015-10-15 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
ALTER DATABASE BEGIN BACKUP; Adriano On 15/10/2015 13:14, Tony Whyman wrote: > Hmmm, I'm not even sure that "complicates" is even the right word here - > counting BEGIN/END block nesting is not the most complex of programming > problems. Several years ago I wrote my own SQL statement

Re: [Firebird-devel] optional SET TERM

2015-10-15 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
15.10.2015 18:14, Tony Whyman wrote: > counting BEGIN/END block nesting is not the most complex of programming > problems. Yes, but current parser operates with plain stream of bytes. Splitting it to separate lexical units is a higher level of complexity and, I'm afraid, will slow it down.

Re: [Firebird-devel] optional SET TERM

2015-10-15 Thread Tony Whyman
Hmmm, I'm not even sure that "complicates" is even the right word here - counting BEGIN/END block nesting is not the most complex of programming problems. Several years ago I wrote my own SQL statement parser (in Pascal) to automate database upgrades without depending on ISQL being available.

Re: [Firebird-devel] optional SET TERM

2015-10-15 Thread Jim Starkey
I've been struggling with this issue for most of my professional life. Going into the internal demo version of what eventually became PDP-11 Datatrieve, I required semi-colons as terminators. My technical writer told me that that sucked, I was free to leave it that way, but the documentation

Re: [Firebird-devel] optional SET TERM

2015-10-15 Thread Jim Starkey
On 10/15/2015 2:10 PM, Claudio Valderrama C. wrote: >> Respectfully disagree. Yes, it complicates isql, but it >> makes the user's life easier. One bit of complication in >> isql, thousands of simpler to create triggers and procedures. > And every change in FB's syntax will have to be mirrored

Re: [Firebird-devel] optional SET TERM

2015-10-15 Thread p519446
IMO, need to specify SET TERM before every block causes only irritation and nothing more. More than 50% of all errors in the scripts that I prepare by typing relate to missing of this statement or specifying "^" and ";" in wrong order. Damn it! IBExpert as most well-known IDE (and maybe starting

Re: [Firebird-devel] optional SET TERM

2015-10-15 Thread Claudio Valderrama C.
> -Original Message- > From: Ann Harrison [mailto:aharri...@nimbusdb.com] > Sent: Jueves, 15 de Octubre de 2015 12:34 > > > On Oct 15, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Dimitry Sibiryakov > wrote: > > > > 15.10.2015 15:51, marius adrian popa wrote: > >> In InterBase 7 is changed