Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-25 Thread Jiří Činčura
> As the Intel platforms will be the *huge* majority, what about this: > > win32 | win64 |win64-arm > > or this: > > win32-x86 | win64-x86 | win64-arm > > or just: > > win32 | win64-x86 | win64-arm That seems pretty inconsistent (in regards to other filenames). -- Mgr. Jiří Činčura

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-25 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 25-08-2022 15:13, Stefan Heymann wrote: I propose this name convention starting with Firebird 5: Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-pdb.exe Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-pdb.zip Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86.exe Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86.zip

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-25 Thread Stefan Heymann
>> > I'd like to suggest you use win32 and win64 instead of x86 and x64. Or, it >> > you want to keep the "windows" prefix, use window-32 and windows-64. >> > For me as a Windows user this would be much more logical (the 86 comes >> > from the 80*86 processor, the 64 comes from 64 bits, so

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-25 Thread Jiří Činčura
> In the past win32 and win64 was good but now Windows exists for ARM64. > x86, x(86-)64, arm64, etc. are more clear. But I am not a core developer > just a user. :-) Same for me. -- Mgr. Jiří Činčura https://www.tabsoverspaces.com/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-25 Thread Gabor Boros
2022.08.25. 15:13 keltezéssel, Stefan Heymann írta: I'd like to suggest you use win32 and win64 instead of x86 and x64. Or, it you want to keep the "windows" prefix, use window-32 and windows-64. For me as a Windows user this would be much more logical (the 86 comes from the 80*86 processor,

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-25 Thread Stefan Heymann
> I propose this name convention starting with Firebird 5: > Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-pdb.exe > Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-pdb.zip > Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86.exe > Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86.zip > Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x64-pdb.exe >

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-25 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 25-08-2022 12:38, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Dmitry Yemanov wrote 25.08.2022 12:34: Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-withDebugSymbols.exe Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-withDebugSymbols.zip Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86.exe Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86.zip

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-25 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 25/08/2022 07:38, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > >   Is this zero after build number necessary? > It's packaging number. We had this type of problem in Windows build in the past, where retag was not necessary and the package number was increased. Adriano Firebird-Devel mailing list, web

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-25 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 25/08/2022 07:19, Mark Rotteveel wrote: > On 25-08-2022 03:15, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >> On 24/08/2022 08:45, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >>> >>> I propose this name convention starting with Firebird 5: >>> >> >> Here is my updated proposal based on the discussion so far:

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-25 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
Dmitry Yemanov wrote 25.08.2022 12:34: Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-withDebugSymbols.exe Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-withDebugSymbols.zip Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86.exe Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86.zip Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x64-withDebugSymbols.exe

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-25 Thread Dmitry Yemanov
25.08.2022 04:15, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: Here is my updated proposal based on the discussion so far: Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-withDebugSymbols.exe Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-withDebugSymbols.zip Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86.exe

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-25 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 25-08-2022 03:15, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: On 24/08/2022 08:45, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: I propose this name convention starting with Firebird 5: Here is my updated proposal based on the discussion so far: Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-withDebugSymbols.exe

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 24/08/2022 08:45, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > > I propose this name convention starting with Firebird 5: > Here is my updated proposal based on the discussion so far: Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-withDebugSymbols.exe Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-withDebugSymbols.zip

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 24/08/2022 09:32, Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote: > On 8/24/22 15:03, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >> On 24/08/2022 08:59, Mark Rotteveel wrote: >>> On 24-08-2022 13:45, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: This is our Firebird 4.0.2 released files: >>> [..] It's

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 24/08/2022 12:04, Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote: >> >> The Linux builds are not complete builds compared to Windows pdb >> builds (e.g. config files, documentation, security database, etc are >> missing) >> > > Yep, they contain only binaries with debug-info. > Linux "debuginfo"

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 24/08/2022 12:33, Paul Reeves wrote: > On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:04:20 +0200 > Mark Rotteveel wrote: > >> On 24-08-2022 15:36, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: >>> Mark Rotteveel wrote 24.08.2022 15:32: If the term is confusing or ambiguous, it already is so in its current form. >>> >>>

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Jiří Činčura
>> How crazy idea it would be to have even Linux builds with binaries? >> > > May be I've lost context - but we release linux builds with binaries > since the first days of the project. Sorry. I meant debug(info) builds with binaries. -- Mgr. Jiří Činčura https://www.tabsoverspaces.com/

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel
On 8/24/22 19:33, Jiří Činčura wrote: How crazy idea it would be to have even Linux builds with binaries? May be I've lost context - but we release linux builds with binaries since the first days of the project. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Jiří Činčura
How crazy idea it would be to have even Linux builds with binaries? -- Mgr. Jiří Činčura https://www.tabsoverspaces.com/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Paul Reeves
On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:04:20 +0200 Mark Rotteveel wrote: > On 24-08-2022 15:36, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > > Mark Rotteveel wrote 24.08.2022 15:32: > >> If the term is confusing or ambiguous, it already is so in its current > >> form. > > > >   Yes, it is. That's why I would suggest to

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote 24.08.2022 17:00: Sorry, but they are created by 'cp' command ;) One can run them directly. Wow. That's crazy. -- WBR, SD. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 24-08-2022 17:00, Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote: On 8/24/22 17:10, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote 24.08.2022 16:06: Same for linux - not stripped binaries provided.   Nope. Firebird-debuginfo-4.0.2.2816-0.amd64.tar.gz contains only extracted

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel
On 8/24/22 17:14, Mark Rotteveel wrote: On 24-08-2022 16:06, Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote: On 8/24/22 17:04, Mark Rotteveel wrote: On 24-08-2022 15:36, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Mark Rotteveel wrote 24.08.2022 15:32: If the term is confusing or ambiguous, it already is so in its

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel
On 8/24/22 17:10, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote 24.08.2022 16:06: Same for linux - not stripped binaries provided.   Nope. Firebird-debuginfo-4.0.2.2816-0.amd64.tar.gz contains only extracted debug symbols, not binaries. Sorry, but they are created by

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 24-08-2022 16:06, Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote: On 8/24/22 17:04, Mark Rotteveel wrote: On 24-08-2022 15:36, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Mark Rotteveel wrote 24.08.2022 15:32: If the term is confusing or ambiguous, it already is so in its current form.    Yes, it is. That's why I

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote 24.08.2022 16:06: Same for linux - not stripped binaries provided. Nope. Firebird-debuginfo-4.0.2.2816-0.amd64.tar.gz contains only extracted debug symbols, not binaries. -- WBR, SD. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel
On 8/24/22 17:04, Mark Rotteveel wrote: On 24-08-2022 15:36, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Mark Rotteveel wrote 24.08.2022 15:32: If the term is confusing or ambiguous, it already is so in its current form.    Yes, it is. That's why I would suggest to change that. The Windows pdb packages are

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 24-08-2022 15:36, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Mark Rotteveel wrote 24.08.2022 15:32: If the term is confusing or ambiguous, it already is so in its current form.   Yes, it is. That's why I would suggest to change that. The Windows pdb packages are complete builds though. So maybe those

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
Mark Rotteveel wrote 24.08.2022 15:32: If the term is confusing or ambiguous, it already is so in its current form. Yes, it is. That's why I would suggest to change that. -- WBR, SD. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 24-08-2022 14:50, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Dmitry Yemanov wrote 24.08.2022 14:47: I would unify the `pdb`, `debuginfo`, etc. into simple `debug` suffix. Agreed.   And better to keep "debuginfo" verb, IMHO to prevent confusion after expectation to find "a debug build" in "debug"

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel
On 8/24/22 15:03, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: On 24/08/2022 08:59, Mark Rotteveel wrote: On 24-08-2022 13:45, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: This is our Firebird 4.0.2 released files: [..] It's difficult to understand, they do not mention OS and hardware architectures are

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
Dmitry Yemanov wrote 24.08.2022 14:47: I would unify the `pdb`, `debuginfo`, etc. into simple `debug` suffix. Agreed. And better to keep "debuginfo" verb, IMHO to prevent confusion after expectation to find "a debug build" in "debug" package. -- WBR, SD. Firebird-Devel mailing list,

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Dmitry Yemanov
24.08.2022 15:35, Jiří Činčura wrote: I would unify the `pdb`, `debuginfo`, etc. into simple `debug` suffix. Agreed. Dmitry Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Jiří Činčura
I would unify the `pdb`, `debuginfo`, etc. into simple `debug` suffix. Probably Alex can clarify, but it really the ARM32/64 for Linux? And if so, do we even need ARM32? -- Mgr. Jiří Činčura https://www.tabsoverspaces.com/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 24/08/2022 08:59, Mark Rotteveel wrote: > On 24-08-2022 13:45, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >> This is our Firebird 4.0.2 released files: >> > [..] >> It's difficult to understand, they do not mention OS and hardware >> architectures are inconsistent. >> >> I propose this name convention

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 24-08-2022 13:45, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: This is our Firebird 4.0.2 released files: [..] It's difficult to understand, they do not mention OS and hardware architectures are inconsistent. I propose this name convention starting with Firebird 5: [..]

[Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
Hi! This is our Firebird 4.0.2 released files: Firebird-4.0.2.2816-0-Win32-pdb.exe Firebird-4.0.2.2816-0-Win32-pdb.zip Firebird-4.0.2.2816-0-Win32.exe Firebird-4.0.2.2816-0-Win32.zip Firebird-4.0.2.2816-0-x64-pdb.exe Firebird-4.0.2.2816-0-x64-pdb.zip Firebird-4.0.2.2816-0-x64.exe