Re: lpd, iptables, and RH7.2

2002-02-19 Thread Martin Peikert
Kenneth Jacker wrote: I've been trying to get remote printing between two RH7.2 systems to work with /iptables/. I've tried various combinations allowing ports 515 and 721:731, but it still doesn't work. If I open up *all* destination ports (boo!) coming from the remote printing machine

Re: which unix (linux) distrubtion is the best to start limitedfirewall (ipchains, ipfilter, ipnat) ?

2002-02-19 Thread Greg Sheard
On Tue, 2002-02-19 at 07:49, Danny Zak wrote: Dear users; we are trying to lookup some information about which distr. to use for this linux ipchains, filters, nats.. ? i saw freebsd popping up all the time; is this stabler; faster; or different (in which way?); or limited ? in

Re: which unix (linux) distrubtion is the best to start limited firewall (ipchains, ipfilter, ipnat) ?

2002-02-19 Thread Helmut Springer
On 19 Feb 2002 at 08:49 +0100, Danny Zak wrote: we are trying to lookup some information about which distr. to use for this linux ipchains, filters, nats.. ? The one you know best and therefore are able to strip from all unneeded things and really understand and control what it does. If you

Re: which unix (linux) distrubtion is the best to start limited firewall (ipchains, ipfilter, ipnat) ?

2002-02-19 Thread Alvin Oga
hiya danny even linux... is either bsd style or att style /etc/rc.d/init stuff is a common difference bsd style printer daemon/setup ... where you(they) put files in /var/www or /home/httpd makes no difference .. just move it to where you like it for firewalls... how

Re: which unix (linux) distrubtion is the best to start limited firewall (ipchains, ipfilter, ipnat) ?

2002-02-19 Thread Martin Peikert
Danny Zak wrote: Dear users; we are trying to lookup some information about which distr. to use for this linux ipchains, filters, nats.. ? i saw freebsd popping up all the time; is this stabler; faster; or different (in which way?); or limited ? in comparision to a linux (redhat) distr

Re: which unix (linux) distrubtion is the best to start limitedfirewall (ipchains, ipfilter, ipnat) ?

2002-02-19 Thread Paul D. Robertson
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Danny Zak wrote: we are trying to lookup some information about which distr. to use for this linux ipchains, filters, nats.. ? For Linux, there are plenty of hardening projects which produce a lot of security tools. You can also do a fair to good ammount of hardening

Re: which unix (linux) distrubtion is the best to start limitedfirewall (ipchains, ipfilter, ipnat) ?

2002-02-19 Thread Paul D. Robertson
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Martin Peikert wrote: It's not the OS that will solve your problems. The security of an OS is dependend of the ability and knowledge of it's administrator. If you are It's also dependent on its codebase (size, complexity, design, implementation.) more familiar with

Re: which unix (linux) distrubtion is the best to start limitedfirewall (ipchains, ipfilter, ipnat) ?

2002-02-19 Thread Joe Matuscak
we are trying to lookup some information about which distr. to use for this linux ipchains, filters, nats.. ? i saw freebsd popping up all the time; is this stabler; faster; or different (in which way?); or limited ? in comparision to a linux (redhat) distr ? as system op; i'm more

RE: which unix (linux) distrubtion is the best to start limited firewall (ipchains, ipfilter, ipnat) ?

2002-02-19 Thread Dan McGinn-Combs
For a long time I steered clear of xBSD in favor of Linux ... Call it a bad habit or an initial experience loading FreeBSD on a machine years ago. Several months ago, I needed to install a small and light firewall with VPN capability. Reluctantly, I went to OpenBSD 3.0. What a shock! My target

Re: which unix (linux) distrubtion is the best to start limited firewall (ipchains, ipfilter, ipnat) ?

2002-02-19 Thread Martin Peikert
Paul D. Robertson wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Martin Peikert wrote: It's not the OS that will solve your problems. The security of an OS is dependend of the ability and knowledge of it's administrator. If you are It's also dependent on its codebase (size, complexity, design,

Problem with 3 interfaces on a PIX --Resent

2002-02-19 Thread Bruno F. Egger
Hello, am i thinking things in the wrong direction. I hope someone of you can give me a hint/advice. We are using a pix with lets say three interfaces. One interface connects the pix to the outside (x.x.x.x), the other connects to a perimeter network p1 (y.y.y.y) and the third connects to the

Problem with 3 interfaces on a PIX

2002-02-19 Thread Bruno F. Egger
Hello, am i thinking things in the wrong direction. I hope someone of you can give me a hint/advice. We are using a pix with lets say three interfaces. One interface connects the pix to the outside (x.x.x.x), the other connects to a perimeter network p1 (y.y.y.y) and the third connects to the

RE: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Kevin Steves
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Reckhard, Tobias wrote: :Instead, I'd use rsync with SSH as transport to automatically push the :necessary portions of the file system from the internal file server to the :DMZ server and configure the latter to use the local copies. Rsync is better :than scp here, because it

Re: which unix (linux) distrubtion is the best to start limitedfirewall (ipchains, ipfilter, ipnat) ?

2002-02-19 Thread Paul Robertson
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Martin Peikert wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Martin Peikert wrote: It's not the OS that will solve your problems. The security of an OS is dependend of the ability and knowledge of it's administrator. If you are It's also dependent on its codebase (size, complexity,

RE: Restricting User from Changing IP

2002-02-19 Thread Kevin Steves
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Kent Hundley wrote: :3) Don't give users root or Administrator access to their machines. This :should keep them from changing IP addresses. (course, they can always break :into the machine) if they have physical access, breaking in tends to just mean reboot. :3) Hard-code

RE: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Paul Robertson
On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Kevin Steves wrote: agreed, rsync over ssh is a good and a fairly common way to push data from inner to more outer security perimeters. in addition to the ssh server configuration, careful use and configuration of the authentication agent may make it reasonable to do

RE: Problem with 3 interfaces on a PIX --Resent

2002-02-19 Thread Glenn Shiffer
You will need to add a line or lines to your p1 access-list to permit the connections you wish to allow. For example: access-list p1 permit tcp y.y.y.y 255.255.255.0 any or being more restrictive: access-list p1 permit tcp y.y.y.y 255.255.255.0 any eq www HTH Glenn -Original

RE: Problem with 3 interfaces on a PIX

2002-02-19 Thread Bruno Fernandes
Hello, am i thinking things in the wrong direction. I hope someone of you can give me a hint/advice. We are using a pix with lets say three interfaces. One interface connects the pix to the outside (x.x.x.x), the other connects to a perimeter network p1 (y.y.y.y) and the third connects to the

Cisco PIX firewall,

2002-02-19 Thread Edward Pinto
Hi 2 questions I have a Cisco PIX firewall, I need to save the syslogs which are generated through the PDM log Question1, is there a syslog server software available for microsoft Question 2, I need to find a manual for the Cisco PIX firewall, any web sites, you could suggest. Thanx

RE: Restricting User from Changing IP

2002-02-19 Thread Network Operations
Lets bury this horse already. If users violate your AUP let your HR dept handle it. Unless of course you don't have anything better to do.. M Kevin Steves [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/17/02 08:14PM On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Kent Hundley wrote: :3) Don't give users root or Administrator access to their

Re: which unix (linux) distrubtion is the best to start limitedfirewall (ipchains, ipfilter, ipnat) ?

2002-02-19 Thread Ron DuFresne
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Paul D. Robertson wrote: [SNIP] The OBSD work really has more relevence in servers than firewalls, as most of the exploited services shouldn't be running on a firewall in the first place. Other than the ICMP kernel bug recently, there's not much that should

RE: Cisco PIX firewall,

2002-02-19 Thread Jim Brigham
download the 3com syslog daemon from their website . It also includes a tftp server and client as well as an FTP server all rolled into one nice package. And its free - my favorite color the file name is 3cdv2r10.zip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Kevin Steves
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Paul Robertson wrote: : agreed, rsync over ssh is a good and a fairly common way to push data from : inner to more outer security perimeters. in addition to the ssh server : configuration, careful use and configuration of the authentication agent : may make it reasonable to

cisco router

2002-02-19 Thread Luis Blecua
Hi all, I´m stuck with a cisco router 761. I´ve been diving into cisco web, registered (without support contract), searching for its IOS(4.3.1 I think) and I only found manuals and references. Could anyone tell me where/how to get the image for europe(net3)?. Thank you very much luis

pop3

2002-02-19 Thread patrick
hi, i recently installed a mailserver for linux 7.2 . Am using sendmail 8.11.2/8.11.6. Everything works well as far as smtp is concerned, the main problem is pop3, in that most of the users have constant disconnections while retrieving mail.The problem is the mail is deleted from the

RE: cisco router

2002-02-19 Thread Noonan, Wesley
I want to make sure I understand this correctly. You have no support contract and you want the people on this list to help you download an *illegal* copy of the IOS. Do I understand you correctly, or am I confused? If I understand you correctly, sorry I can't help you. Wes Noonan,

RE: pop3

2002-02-19 Thread David Ishmael
Unless the pop3 software has some sort of process to do this, the deletion of messages from the server occurs via the user's MUA. - Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of patrick Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 3:58 AM To: [EMAIL

RE: pop3

2002-02-19 Thread Chris Patterson
I don't believe that is a setting on the server. The client takes care of that. A POP3 client will do a LIST and then attempt to RETRieve what is listed. And then DELEtes each message individually. A while back, when doing Internet support for an ISP, we used to come across similar problems.

RE: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Paul Robertson
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Kevin Steves wrote: :If you're using SSH, you should make every attempt to restrict the daemon :to accepting version 2 of the protocol *only*. why? v2 is a good protocol. :The v1 fallback stuff will what v1 fallback stuff? Most sshd programs (including OpenSSH)

RE: cisco router

2002-02-19 Thread David Ishmael
You're just looking for the image? Are you a registered Cisco user? You should be able to find the images you want under their software section. - Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Luis Blecua Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 3:47 AM

Re: cisco router

2002-02-19 Thread Paul Robertson
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Luis Blecua wrote: Hi all, I´m stuck with a cisco router 761. I´ve been diving into cisco web, registered (without support contract), searching for its IOS(4.3.1 I think) and I only found manuals and references. Could anyone tell me where/how to get the image for

RE: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Kevin Steves
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Paul Robertson wrote: : :If you're using SSH, you should make every attempt to restrict the daemon : :to accepting version 2 of the protocol *only*. : : why? : :v2 is a good protocol. agreed. you are implying that v1 is bad. this is false. : :The v1 fallback stuff will :

Re: cisco router

2002-02-19 Thread black
I believe he is looking for CBOS software, which is provided free by cisco. At least it was a few months ago to patch the embedded IIS exploits. On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Paul Robertson wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Luis Blecua wrote: Hi all, I´m stuck with a cisco router 761. I´ve been diving

RE: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Paul Robertson
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Kevin Steves wrote: [snip] i'm glad we got to the details rather than broad handwaving. protocol 1 does have weaknesses, however it is not horribly broken as you say, and its support in OpenSSH has hastened the migration to protocol 2 by permitting people to better

Re: cisco router

2002-02-19 Thread Todd Underwood
folx, if, indeed, that's what he's discussing, relatively recent (although not absolutely current) images are available for download at: http://www.qwest.com/dsl/customerservice/modemsupport.html t. On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:04:33 -0500 (EST)

Re: cisco router

2002-02-19 Thread Paul Robertson
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe he is looking for CBOS software, which is provided free by cisco. At least it was a few months ago to patch the embedded IIS exploits. According to the Cisco advisory, CBOS is for a 600-series product (with upgrades available by

RE: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Paul Robertson
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Bill Royds wrote: The one reason I have been given to not enforce V2 only is support for ssh clients. One of the most common open source SSH clients is Teraterm and it does not have a SSHv2 version. see http://www.zip.com.au/~roca/ttssh.html. Without SSHV2 clients,

Cisco PIX DMZ with PAT ?

2002-02-19 Thread kk downing
Hello, We have a very small network with three IPs from our DSL provider. We currently have one legal IP as the public interface on our PIX, and we use PAT for a second address so that all machines on the private 10.0.0.0 network can use to get out to the internet. We just purchased a third NIC

RE: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Ron DuFresne
secureCRT also supports version 2, and I recall a number of other windows clients supporting version 2 on the windows platform, I did a pretty through search on this for nortel a year and a half ago, trying to get them to move to version 2 back then, just after version 1 was finally accepted for

Re: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Thomas Syrstad
Hi all, There are some free and/or commercial products that supports the SSH v2: http://www.vandyke.com/ http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/docs.html Personally I favor the Van Dyke SSH client whenever using Win32 platforms. Best regards, Thomas Syrstad Trustix AS Paul

Re: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Dennis Dai
Paul Robertson wrote: [...] [1] Critical enough to need, critical enough to have supported, I'm also not sure if anyone's Cygwin'd the OpenSSH v2 stuff yet- I don't run the Windows virus ;) OpenSSH on Windows: http://www.networksimplicity.com/openssh/ -- Dennis

RE: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Royds Net
The one reason I have been given to not enforce V2 only is support for ssh clients. One of the most common open source SSH clients is Teraterm and it does not have a SSHv2 version. see http://www.zip.com.au/~roca/ttssh.html. Without SSHV2 clients, systems can't use SSHV2 servers. -Original

RE: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Scott Fraser
[1] Critical enough to need, critical enough to have supported, I'm also not sure if anyone's Cygwin'd the OpenSSH v2 stuff yet- I don't run the Windows virus ;) for the record, (i am forced to use NT at work) i use cygwin with openssh 2.9.2p2 and it seems to work fine (with both v1 and

RE: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Royds Net
I use SecureCRT myself but I have to support clients who are not willing to pay for commercial products. Since TeraTerm still works for most people, they will continue to use it. Anyone know of a good strategy to weed people away from obsolete tools without actually hurting them?

Re: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya dennis a new link/product... cool... its added to the list http://www.Linux-Sec.net/SSH ( bottom section for windoze apps ) thanx alvin On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Dennis Dai wrote: Paul Robertson wrote: [...] [1] Critical enough to need, critical enough to have supported, I'm also

Re: Moving data through a firewall

2002-02-19 Thread Thomas Syrstad
Well, Normally clients (customers) will start using another free software (i.e. Putty) that meets the requirements for your new security policy. Clients normally understand this, if you explain them that you have to do it for the purpose of being pro-active when it comes to security... Best

Re: cisco router THANK YOU ALL

2002-02-19 Thread luis
Well, just say thanks to all who helped me with info and advices, specially Jim Munroe. luis ___ Firewalls mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnac.net/mailman/listinfo/firewalls

ipf

2002-02-19 Thread Bruno Fernandes
Title: ipf Hi !!! I have a question to the list regarding ipf, i am currently using OBSD as my home Firewall, but as i read the examples and the man i still don't understand how does ipf reacts to a synflood, i have already read something about that regarding iptables, a limit that prevents

Re: Cisco PIX DMZ with PAT ?

2002-02-19 Thread Brian Ford
At 03:02 PM 2/19/2002 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 6 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:01:50 -0800 (PST) From: kk downing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco PIX DMZ with PAT ? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, We have a very small network with three IPs from our DSL provider. We currently have one

RE: Cisco PIX DMZ with PAT ?

2002-02-19 Thread kk downing
ooh errr how do you get around this then: In the PIX until the last version (6.1.1) it is not possible to use a static mapping with the same address as a global pool ? --- Bruno Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi !!! 1. You should use the third IP to your mail server and make

Rainer Elsaesser/UK/CSC is out of the office.

2002-02-19 Thread relsaess
I will be out of the office starting 18/02/2002 and will not return until 25/02/2002. I will respond to your message as soon as I have a chance to pick up your mail. ___ Firewalls mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Cisco PIX DMZ with PAT ?

2002-02-19 Thread Bruno Fernandes
Title: RE: Cisco PIX DMZ with PAT ? Hi !!! 1. You should use the third IP to your mail server and make something like this static(dmz,outside) x.x.x.x y.y.y.y netmask 255.255.255.255 max_conn embryonic_limit for mapping the private IP of the mail server wich will live in the DMZ to the

Re: which unix (linux) distrubtion is the best to start limited

2002-02-19 Thread Brett Lymn
According to Paul D. Robertson: . NetBSD used to have the fastest networking code, I thought that was FreedBSD that actually had the fastest networking. NetBSD is noted for having the broadest range of supported platforms - great pains are taken to make NetBSD as portable as possible.

RE: Cisco PIX DMZ with PAT ?

2002-02-19 Thread vishal pranjale
Hi, You are already using one global pool for one public IP so now you can't do the static mapping with the mail server. Hence u have to use another public IP and NAT. Regards Vishal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of kk downing Sent: