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2002-02-04 Thread Marc Sahr
: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:15 PM To: Marc Sahr Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: FW: Win2kAdvance Server According to Marc Sahr: . But when I put my company's (or my clients') data on the line I go with mainstream, recognizable products: Microsoft, Cisco, Dell, Compaq, etc. Yeah - so we

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2002-02-04 Thread Dean Michael Dorman
I believe you are thinking of SGI. Please do some thought auditing before posting. It helps. Dean -Original Message- From: Marc Sahr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: FW: Win2kAdvance Server Gee thanks

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2002-02-04 Thread Ron DuFresne
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Marc Sahr wrote: Gee thanks for the personal attack... How the hell do you connect The Red Cross and open-source software??? That's quite a stretch. I don't see the connection. off topic red-cross rant on This corporate entity has lost all credibility here, since some of

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2002-02-04 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 08:42:42AM -0700, Marc Sahr wrote: Yes I can call Sun non-mainstream... Sun's great for High-end graphics workstations and the servers that support them. But my accounting department (and my sales, marketing, HR, and client support) departments don't need high-end

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2002-02-04 Thread Pollard, Chris
Any chance all of these off topic rants could be taken off list now please? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Ron DuFresne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 16:00 To: Marc Sahr Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: FW: FW: Win2kAdvance Server On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Marc

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2002-02-04 Thread Paul D. Robertson
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Marc Sahr wrote: Well, it may be free, but consider this: Linux is open source, right? That's most of the point of using it, not price. Anyone who wants to can figure out the holes that exist (and yes, they do exist) and exploit them, since the source is available to

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2002-02-04 Thread langsuir
for the rant. Marc -Original Message- From: Brett Lymn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:15 PM To: Marc Sahr Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: FW: Win2kAdvance Server According to Marc Sahr: . But when I put my company's (or my clients

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2002-02-03 Thread Brett Lymn
According to Michael Cobb: Ok Linux dude's and dudette's. If Linux is so open, how come ONE man owns the right to the kernel and ONE man and his very few associates develop said kernel Not quite right ... Linus may closely control what goes into the official linux kernel tree but he does not

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2002-02-03 Thread Brett Lymn
According to Marc Sahr: . But when I put my company's (or my clients') data on the line I go with mainstream, recognizable products: Microsoft, Cisco, Dell, Compaq, etc. Yeah - so we can see from your mail headers... Odd that you did not mention Sun in there, for the moment, Solaris 8 is

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2002-02-03 Thread Klaus Schulze
: Win2kAdvance Server Fellow Hacks, I hate to throw gas on a fire, but I have been a Linux user for years. I have seen so many e-mails flying over the alias (this one included) about this scam called open source. We have seen all the bird cage liners touting the socialist revolution of open source! Blah

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2002-02-01 Thread Marc Sahr
Operations [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 7:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: Win2kAdvance Server Linux firewall = $0.00 M$ 2k box = $5000.00 do the math Marc.. Marc Sahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/28 3:44 PM As if using Linux as a firewall wasn't scary enough

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2002-02-01 Thread Luis Filipe Bruno
Nobody was ever fired for buying from $BIG_CORPORATION. But I'd like to point out a security weakness on your judgement. A programmer that writes code for a specific firewall product would know the holes that exist, and could exploit them. Please search google.com: Microsoft engineers are

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2002-02-01 Thread Steven Pierce
Luis, Very well said, could have not said it better myself. Steven *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/1/2002 at 5:05 PM Luis Filipe Bruno wrote: Nobody was ever fired for buying from $BIG_CORPORATION. But I'd like to point out a security weakness on your judgement. A programmer

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2002-02-01 Thread Joe Matuscak
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Marc Sahr wrote: Well, it may be free, but consider this: Linux is open source, right? Anyone who wants to can figure out the holes that exist (and yes, they do exist) and exploit them, since the source is available to all. This is of course true with ANY firewall. A

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2002-02-01 Thread Michael Cobb
Fellow Hacks, I hate to throw gas on a fire, but I have been a Linux user for years. I have seen so many e-mails flying over the alias (this one included) about this scam called open source. We have seen all the bird cage liners touting the socialist revolution of open source! Blah Blah Blah.

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2002-02-01 Thread David Lang
: Win2kAdvance Server Fellow Hacks, I hate to throw gas on a fire, but I have been a Linux user for years. I have seen so many e-mails flying over the alias (this one included) about this scam called open source. We have seen all the bird cage liners touting the socialist revolution of open

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2002-02-01 Thread Scott Fraser
: Re: FW: FW: Win2kAdvance Server Fellow Hacks, I hate to throw gas on a fire, but I have been a Linux user for years. I have seen so many e-mails flying over the alias (this one included) about this scam called open source. We have seen all the bird cage liners touting

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2002-02-01 Thread Noonan, Wesley
://www.bmc.com -Original Message- From: Scott Fraser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 20:21 To: 'Michael Cobb'; Joe Matuscak; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: FW: FW: Win2kAdvance Server one word: licencing (and yes, i am canadian, so i can spell it that way

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2002-01-31 Thread Network Operations
Linux firewall = $0.00 M$ 2k box = $5000.00 do the math Marc.. Marc Sahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/28 3:44 PM As if using Linux as a firewall wasn't scary enough... We all know a Linux firewall is unhackable right??? Marc -Original Message- From: piranha piranha [mailto:[EMAIL

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2002-01-31 Thread Laura A. Robinson
Really? You run your firewalls on oxygen? I've only been able to get mine to run on hardware. Laura - Original Message - From: Network Operations [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:48 AM Subject: Re: FW: Win2kAdvance Server Linux firewall = $0.00

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2002-01-31 Thread Patrick Orzechowski
At least while using linux as a firewall one can build the kernel to suit the particular needs of the situation. With msft youre stuck with the os that comes from the box, and have to wait for patches from the manufacturer. On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Marc Sahr wrote: As if using Linux as a firewall

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2002-01-28 Thread Marc Sahr
As if using Linux as a firewall wasn't scary enough... We all know a Linux firewall is unhackable right??? Marc -Original Message- From: piranha piranha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 10:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: