Re: coding conventions

2012-01-08 Thread Sebastian Mohr
I also would be happy to move forward with the existing Flex Coding Conventions: http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Coding+Conventions I would only extend these Coding Conventions with a few rules for Flex 3: http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/Flex3CodingConventions ...

Re: BlazeDS

2012-01-08 Thread Sebastian Mohr
Hi BlazeDS guys, Is there any interest to merge with GraniteDS at some stage? http://www.graniteds.org - Sebastian On Jan 8, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Gary Huitson wrote: Hi Guys I think BlazeDS is really important for Flex to survive as an enterprise product. Java+Flex seems to be the most

Re: Our first Sunday

2012-01-08 Thread Carlos Rovira
Great words Dimitri! :) I think this feelings are shared by all of us :) El domingo 8 de enero de 2012, Dimitri k. k...@noos.fr escribió: Hi everyone, I wanted to use this relatively quiet Sunday moment here (Apache Flex, the mailing-list that never sleeps) to express my gratitude about the

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-08 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Jeffry Houser jef...@dot-com-it.com: On 1/8/2012 9:19 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: logo designers need to submit there work via the list any way. I generally think it is a bad idea to force logo designers to subscribe to this mailing list to submit entries. Is there a way to

Re: Flex Roadmap

2012-01-08 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Sunday, January 8, 2012, Sebastian Mohr masul...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, When would be the best time to speak about the Flex roadmap? Now. See old threads for this discussion, but that all happens here on this list. First release will likey not bring anything new as the group learns to

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-08 Thread Doug Arthur
On Jan 8, 2012 7:41 AM, Michael Schmalle m...@teotigraphix.com wrote: Quoting Jeffry Houser jef...@dot-com-it.com: On 1/8/2012 9:19 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: logo designers need to submit there work via the list any way. I generally think it is a bad idea to force logo designers to

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-08 Thread Randy Troppmann
As a professional designer I am ethically opposed to sites like this for the purpose of crowd sourcing graphic design. If you go this direction you will find that designers like me will not participate for this very reason. And these are the people you need involved. If you go down this road you

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-08 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Mihai Ene dkra...@yahoo.com: I believe that using an external submission platform with anonymous users (such as a blog, Twitter or a personal website) is not possible since everyone who submits materials must have signed the Apache ICLA. Mihai Ene Hmm, that might be a good

Re: Flex Usage Statistics

2012-01-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/8/12 12:58 AM, Sebastian Mohr masul...@gmail.com wrote: Do you see the need to make more surveys? I would want JIRA to be our constantly running survey. Folks put in issues, the community votes on it. Serious discussion should probably happen on the list. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-08 Thread Doug Arthur
On Jan 8, 2012 9:32 AM, Mihai Ene dkra...@yahoo.com wrote: You cannot use an anonymous submission platform (like a blog, Twitter or personal websites) because every user who submits materials needs to sign the apache ICLA Thus, i am afraid that the mailing list remains the only option so far.

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-08 Thread Jeffry Houser
I didn't mean to start a religious war. On 1/8/2012 11:31 AM, Randy Troppmann wrote: As a professional designer I am ethically opposed to sites like this for the purpose of crowd sourcing graphic design. Of course you are! Everybody hates it when technology helps enable competition to

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-08 Thread Randy Troppmann
On Jan 8, 2012 4:39 PM, Abhilash Krishnan abhilashk@gmail.com wrote: I don't really agree with Randy! Open Source is crowd or community collaboration initiative. Open source evolves through community and the contribution involved. Here nobody is dictating terms. You are at peace to

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-08 Thread Jeffry Houser
So you're going to make every entrant submit the agreement before hand? It sounds like a high barrier of entry. The contract and/or terms that the winner must sign should be made known up front. I thought they were part of the original contest proposal. On 1/8/2012 12:49 PM, Jonathan

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-08 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 8, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: Well from the standpoint of fairness wouldn't we do a; while (runnerup = contestants.next()) if (runnerup.agreeToLicense()) break; winner = runnerup; I know that is stupid but it's Sunday. I don't think this is stupid. I

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-08 Thread Michael Schmalle
I don't think this is stupid. I say go with the copy you have and we can use twittering as our crowd sourcing. If we want to be doubly-careful we can respond to submissions and ask if the designer will be cool with signing and ICLA if they win before their submission is made public for

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-08 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 8, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Jun Heider wrote: On Jan 8, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: Hi Jun, I was just trying to get a date for starting the contest really since I'm putting it up on the site. I guess starting it on Tuesday morning for one week is the gameplan. That

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-08 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: Here is a page about decision making at Apache. [1] It is referred to by this page. [2] HTH, Dave [1] http://community.apache.org/committers/decisionMaking.html [2] http://community.apache.org/committers/index.html Right on. Thanks for

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-08 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:41 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: No worries. What you've done so far has been awesome and most appreciated. I was more referring to all the back and forth on this particular thread after the voting had taken place. I guess I just need to get used to how decisions are

Adobe AIR Native Extensions for Linux

2012-01-08 Thread Abhilash Krishnan
Hi, Has anybody have pointers or hack to develop AIR Native Extensions for Linux? Please share. Thanks, Abhilash

Re: Flex Usage Statistics

2012-01-08 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
Agreed, 100%. Surveys outside of that can be swayed to however the creator wants it to end up. For example, with all the people I talk to, Caringorm has been barely a blip on anybody's radar for at least two years -- where this survey shows a completely different story (and steers people to

Re: Adobe AIR Native Extensions for Linux

2012-01-08 Thread Jeffry Houser
I thought AIR was no longer supported or developed for Linux; and the latest version of AIR is required for Native Extension support. So, therefore I think you'll have to join the open screen project and perform you're own AIR for Linux port to get Native Extensions working. I assume

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish [Last Detail - thoughts]

2012-01-08 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
Requiring everybody to sign an ICLA is a bit much, and I would seriously discourage it. The ICLA required a two week review from the GC at my office before I could sign it (with you work for an entity like a university, IBM, Lucent, etc, where they own everything you do, there is a lot of

Re: Adobe AIR Native Extensions for Linux

2012-01-08 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
It's pretty much a no-go. AIR was discontinued for Linux a while ago, and support for ANEs were not introduced until after that development was stopped. AIR is still one of those things that will be locked away from us. Linux support even more so. Adobe said that the install base was too small

another logo submission

2012-01-08 Thread Doug McCune
Howdy, Apologies if there's a better way to submit logos (or if we're supposed to wait until a proper contest is launched). Just subscribed to the list and tried reading over the archives to see where things stand, as far as I could tell it hadn't been decided whether submissions should happen

Re: another logo submission

2012-01-08 Thread Jun Heider
On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Doug McCune wrote: http://dougmccune.com/apache_flex_logo.jpg That logo rocks and howdy Doug!

Re: Flex Usage Statistics

2012-01-08 Thread Sebastian Mohr
@Alex Good point ... haven't thought about JIRA in that way ;) We'll see if JIRA will do this job! Do you know of any other surveys out there that have been taken so far? Does Adobe have some internal surveys which can be made publicly available? - Sebastian On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:42

Re: coding conventions

2012-01-08 Thread Sebastian Mohr
Both conventions, for Flex 3 and Flex 4, are very similar. 1) you recommended tabs in CSS where I think we use spaces throughout. Well ... I prefer tabs everywhere, because, a tab requires less characters to keep the indention in order. 2) you want properties before constructor in AS files

Re: Flex Usage Statistics

2012-01-08 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
Understood, but the survey is making the grand assumption that /everybody/ is using some sort of MVC framework, which was my point. There is no out on the survey, and some people (like myself) would simply not answer the survey at all. While in the Flex world, there is an overwhelming majority

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-08 Thread James Roland Cabresos
+1 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Ryan Frishberg fri...@gmail.com wrote: +1 (binding). The proposal looks good to me. I think 2 weeks would probably be a good length for the competition. Cheers, Ryan On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Omar Gonzalez omarg.develo...@gmail.com wrote: +1

Re: [VOTE] Flex logo contest page publish

2012-01-08 Thread Sandeep Gupta
+1 (non-member) Keep Walking, ~ Sandeep On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:42 AM, James Roland Cabresos j.cabre...@gmail.comwrote: +1 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Ryan Frishberg fri...@gmail.com wrote: +1 (binding). The proposal looks good to me. I think 2 weeks would probably be a good

Re: Flex Usage Statistics

2012-01-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/8/12 4:42 PM, Sebastian Mohr masul...@gmail.com wrote: Do you know of any other surveys out there that have been taken so far? Does Adobe have some internal surveys which can be made publicly availabl I consider all past data to be obsolete. The world is changing too fast. Survey's

Re: Flex Usage Statistics

2012-01-08 Thread Alex Harui
Apache infrastructure team will set up JIRA. Then we will attempt to port existing Flex SDK issues for Adobe JIRA. That is considered to be a painful and time consuming process, but I don't think the community can help. On 1/8/12 10:31 AM, Csomák Gábor csom...@gmail.com wrote: can we help in

Re: BlazeDS

2012-01-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/8/12 8:55 AM, Doug Arthur dougart...@gmail.com wrote: Last thing on this note, if we do bring BlazeDS into Apache Flex, how will release management take place, and how will the product remain to be its own within another product? Especially since its an a optional server-side

unsubscribe mail address fails

2012-01-08 Thread Pepe
Hello I tried to unsubscribe Commits Mailing List (flex-commmits-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org). But it failed. thanks Shigeru Nakagaki

Re: unsubscribe mail address fails

2012-01-08 Thread Doug Arthur
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Pepe pepe.f...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I tried to unsubscribe Commits Mailing List (flex-commmits-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org). But it failed. thanks Shigeru Nakagaki Too many m's in that address. Try: flex-commits-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org

Re: another logo submission

2012-01-08 Thread Csomák Gábor
Love them, Doug! Both the two-tone black, and the apacheified are awesome! 2012/1/9 Jun Heider j...@realeyes.com On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Doug McCune wrote: http://dougmccune.com/apache_flex_logo.jpg That logo rocks and howdy Doug!